(Reference page 325)

would it break the system if the capacity cost of Sensor Functions were scaled to the rating of the sensor function? What if a cyber scanner's capacity cost was + 1/2 sensor function rating (round up)?

The reason this concerns me is that cyber scanners and MAD scanners are very inexpencive and I don't think you should be able to fit a high level scanner in an RFID tag. I think it makes the setting better if the security guard can't fit rating 6 cyber scanner, MAD scanner and an Olfactory sensor in the same handheld device. I'm not sure about this but I also think that it breaks physics to put a "milimeter wave detection system" inside something the size of a coin and expect to get resolution of more than tens of pixles.

if you're the GM, simply don't give your team's opponents any gear you feel would be overpowered. problem solved. i, for one, like those kinds of complications and have a fairly maimed character with a mad scanner in one artificial finger. comes in handy when you're meeting with a prospective employer.

Our house rule was that capacities for different tables were incompatible, so you couldn't fit MAD scanners in your cyber eyes, or a cyber shotgun in your hand held scanner. Or even a cybershotgun in your cybereye.

That's a house rule? I thought it was common sense that something described as "car sized" didn't fit inside an eye socket.

i would agree with djinni. like it is saying it is impossible to put your commlink or datalock and maybe a control rig but basically it comes down to common sense you cant have a tooth storage compartment in you arm but a commlink will fit. it just is all what you as the GM or the GM says if he says NO then go with it don't argue he is like god but you can talk to him. but my idea is use common sense.

--the schmitz

Sensors p. 325
Each package has a Capacity rating; the total Capacity
rating of the individual sensors may not exceed the package’s
Capacity rating. If more than one sensor in a package applies
to a Sensor Test, use only the highest rating.


Headware p. 330
These small complex devices are inserted into the head
(typically constructed via less-invasive nanosurgery). Items
that have a Capacity rating may be installed in cyberlimbs
instead, costing capacity rather than Essence.

Eyeware p 332
Eyeware subsystems either take up Capacity in a cybereye
or Essence in a natural eye (not both). For both replacements
and retinal mods, upgrades usually involve both eyes
so the user’s vision is not unbalanced.

Earware They missed this one

Bodyware p. 333
Bodyware that does not have a Capacity rating must be
installed directly into the user’s body; it cannot be installed
into cyberlimbs. Bodyware with a Capacity rating may be installed
in cyberlimbs, costing capacity rather than Essence.

Cyberlimb sub section of bodyware.


Each section has a table that shows the capaicity rating, there is accompanying text in each section explining how capacity is used.

If you choose to think the capacity rating of headware items in the headware table, which use is described, are also to be used as a sensor capacity rating or the cyberlimb capacity rating (Which is a sub section of the headware group, then you can certainly choose to do so.

Personally I think headware capicity applies to items in the headware section, Sensor capacity applies to items in sensor section.

For examples of installing sensor devices into cyberlimbs I'd look more at what can be installed in smuggling compartments and the description of what size items can be placed in cyberlimbs.

Although I hate having to resort to using them as an example, the Bounty Hunter Sample Character does have Ultrasound installed in his Cybereyes, so that is at least one known example of using capacity costs across the tables...



And remember that before the Crash 2.0 Cyberdocs in the Sixth World had no problem installing things like Ultrasound and Datajacks into Cybereye Systems...

I agree with DireRadiant. You might rule some items could be transfered on a case by case basis, but the rule of thumb (and no not the beating your wife with a thin stick) is you can't insert capacity items into things they aren't designed for.

Could I have a select sound filter in my cybereye, you could imagine its possible but from a game perspective it just doesn't make sense.

Why not put an image link in a finger and peek around corners and through keyholes by flipping the bird. How about an inspector gadget grapple gun in my head. Or putting retinal duplication in my ear. Its all feasible I guess but I'd imagine the surgery and science of it hasn't been perfected like the standard practices and certain cyberware assumes basic things like that you can see out of a cybereye to begin with. If you have a player wanting to force it, you could rule it uses up double the capacity when put in the wrong cyber-system.

They're not robots, the human body still makes up the majority (in most cases) of the whole system, and when it doesn't, good luck getting healed after the surgery as low essence means they have a lot more parts and difficulties to deal with.

And I just don't see a [3] capacity in your head equal to a [3] capacity in a limb.

By the same thought processes I could replace my legs with cyberarms and become a cyber monkey (damn too late).

The game concept about cyberware is crazy enough, and when players ask for this type of weird set-up from a street doc, I'd say "Absolutely! But I must say the last time I attempted it did result in lethal biofeedback, but hey i'm sure I got all the kinks worked out this time, hop up on the table". It usually shuts them up.

Everything in the Eyeware section is a passive sensor; that may be why Ultrasound is not a part of that list. It could be that it was initially grouped there, but removed before printing.

not impossible as the sample characters have been shown to contain errors before...

It's listed as "an implanted version of the ultrasound sensor", which is emitter + receiver, so, it's both.

it has to be both to work and I'd venture to guess it wouldn't ever come seperately as it'd be pretty useless.

Its not that big of a deal really being that it is a visual sensor in a cybereye, of course you'd have to figure what the essence or [cap] its rated at, availablility and price first.

But I'd bet it was just a typo of some damn designer who didn't understand the difference of vision enhancements and cyberware.

Edit* it says the sensor could be on passive mode and not emit, which kinda implies the sensor and the emitter are rolled into one

Yeah - that's kinda what I was thinking, if your system is talking to the emitter's system, then it knows its relative position and can do the math. I dunno enough about ultrasound to say whether or not any emitter, on your team or not, is enough - but I'm willing to say it's a possibility.

If nothing else, it should work as a motion-sensor-sensor.