eidolon
Aug 10 2007, 06:13 PM
As many people have noticed, www.shadowrunrpg.com is currently redirecting to Fanpro Germany's e-store.
As of a couple of days prior to Gencon, the site has been moved to
www.shadowrun4.com.
This post will be updated as things change.
Also, remember to check
CatalystGameLabs.com for more tasty SR and CBT information.
Rotbart van Dainig
Aug 10 2007, 06:14 PM
QUOTE (eidolon) |
In the meantime, you can check www.catalysgamelabs.com for Shadowrun information. |
eidolon
Aug 10 2007, 06:26 PM
What about it?
farrenj
Aug 10 2007, 06:28 PM
lol, eid, you forgot the "t" in catalyst.
He was poking fun.
Dashifen
Aug 10 2007, 06:29 PM
Rotbart van Dainig: putting the 2nd "t" back in "catalyst."
Buster
Aug 10 2007, 07:00 PM
Nice site. It's in English and everything!
warrior_allanon
Aug 10 2007, 07:49 PM
oh good, now i dont have to hunt people down and kill them....i still cant catch up on downloading SRM's but eh, i'll live for a while since i dont have a group to play with anyway
eidolon
Aug 10 2007, 08:51 PM
D'oh! I didn't even notice when I checked after his post. I thought he was saying that something was wrong with the site, but the link worked for me.
Ergo, no problem!
edit: fixed the original post
Zolhex
Aug 11 2007, 05:49 AM
Now it looks like your just t-ed off
coolgrafix
Aug 12 2007, 04:31 AM
I suspect that with the change from FanPro to Catalyst that a registrar change on the domain has been bungled somehow. I'm still curious what's going on. And even more curious as to how it's even possible that no explanation has been forthcoming from the usual in-the-know sources. Did I miss a sticky somewhere? Surely someone knows what's going on. =)
Rotbart van Dainig
Aug 12 2007, 09:52 AM
IIRC, as Adam pointed out, the domains belong to FanPro Germany.
Since they don't produce SR anymore, they don't have any incentive to host the english website for it.
Or, in other words... the domains are held hostage, most likely until the german licence issue is resolved.
hobgoblin
Aug 12 2007, 03:39 PM
who needs SR when real life behaves like this?
vladski
Aug 12 2007, 05:17 PM
QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) |
IIRC, as Adam pointed out, the domains belong to FanPro Germany. Since they don't produce SR anymore, they don't have any incentive to host the english website for it.
Or, in other words... the domains are held hostage, most likely until the german licence issue is resolved. |
Great
I was hoping to download the last couple Missions for possible use. I wonder how long it's gonna be before they resolve this.
*grumble, grumble, grumble*
Vlad
Zolhex
Aug 12 2007, 05:40 PM
QUOTE (vladski) |
QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Aug 12 2007, 04:52 AM) | IIRC, as Adam pointed out, the domains belong to FanPro Germany. Since they don't produce SR anymore, they don't have any incentive to host the english website for it.
Or, in other words... the domains are held hostage, most likely until the german licence issue is resolved. |
Great I was hoping to download the last couple Missions for possible use. I wonder how long it's gonna be before they resolve this. *grumble, grumble, grumble* Vlad |
Tell Dunner which ones you need he has them all and has said in the past he will send them out.
hobgoblin
Aug 12 2007, 06:59 PM
is all the srrpg server data also in fanpro hands?
Adam
Aug 12 2007, 07:05 PM
No. [Well, yes, but it's also in my hands.]
Solutions are being worked on, but there's nothing I can say to you guys that will make it resolve faster.
Rotbart van Dainig
Aug 12 2007, 07:38 PM
QUOTE (Adam) |
Well, yes, but it's also in my hands. |
Backups - you'll never know when you need them.
Redjack
Aug 12 2007, 10:59 PM
Perhaps I'm just a simpleton but in the meantime why can't we put the site back up on a different domain and update everywhere to point to the new URL, then when the old URL is restored the new URL simply becomes an alias?
That would take about an hour.... right?
Fortune
Aug 12 2007, 11:07 PM
As long as you don't actually need to download anything, you can always use the
last backup of the site, courtesy of the Wayback Machine.
Rotbart van Dainig
Aug 12 2007, 11:35 PM
Wow. That would be the first site I know that has its downloads mirrored by archive.
Fortune
Aug 12 2007, 11:38 PM
Yeah, the
Wayback Machine is a pretty useful site.
Adam
Aug 13 2007, 12:10 AM
QUOTE (Redjack) |
That would take about an hour.... right? |
No. It's a little more complex than that.
Redjack
Aug 13 2007, 12:48 AM
Then I'm *assuming* that it must be legal issues.
hobgoblin
Aug 13 2007, 05:58 AM
there are always legal issues...
NightmareX
Aug 13 2007, 07:36 AM
I hate legal issues
Vairdic
Aug 13 2007, 07:42 AM
QUOTE (Redjack) |
Then I'm *assuming* that it must be legal issues. |
Or...
It could be software versioning issues, absolute links, relative links, graphic changes, DNS records, IP address conflicts, mail setup, the largest convention of the year in 3 days, packing for a week on the road, finalizing fall products, negotiating with the hard-ass Operations Manag.... umm... wait, not that one.
There are many reasons, but we are putting quite a bit of effort into figuring out the issues and getting everything fixed (hopefully without causing many additional issues). Adam, Andrew, Scott, and the team at our top-notch web host are all working on the issues.
There's no logical reason that one must assume legal issues are holding things up.
NightmareX
Aug 13 2007, 08:45 AM
You sir have just increased my faith in InMediaRes.
Thank you.
(+1 karma for Vairdic)
Rotbart van Dainig
Aug 13 2007, 11:09 AM
But at the end of the day, the site code still belongs to FanPro, and without their agreement, it's not going anywere.
TypeRyder
Aug 13 2007, 11:42 AM
I would be careful with this statement...
Fanpro hasn't the license anymore so I'm asking myself if they still retain the usage rights for shadowrunrelated material like the content of the english shadowrun website. Anybody here who can shed some light on the whole copyright / license stuff?
Rotbart van Dainig
Aug 13 2007, 11:46 AM
QUOTE (TypeRyder) |
I would be careful with this statement... |
It's all in the archive.
QUOTE |
© 2001-2006 WizKids Inc. Shadowrun is a registered trademark of WizKids Inc. All Rights Reserved. Original contents of shadowrunrpg.com copyright © 2001-2006 Fantasy Productions. Permission given to reproduce contents for personal use only. |
Adam
Aug 13 2007, 04:54 PM
Before you guys go on a mile-long tangent: all the material on the site is owned by WizKids. The "original contents" line was just a catch-all for non-Shadowrun content, in case, for some reason, non-SR content was uploaded temporarily.
Rotbart van Dainig
Aug 13 2007, 05:31 PM
Material, sure. And the site itself?
Adam
Aug 13 2007, 05:36 PM
Owned by WizKids.
Redjack
Aug 13 2007, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (Vairdic) |
..software versioning issues, absolute links, relative links, graphic changes, DNS records, IP address conflicts, mail setup, the largest convention of the year in 3 days, packing for a week on the road, finalizing fall products, negotiating with the hard-ass Operations Manag.... |
Just so that I am not misunderstood, I was replying to
QUOTE (Adam @ Aug 12 2007, 07:10 PM) |
No. It's a little more complex than that. |
As someone whose been dealing with the web and website issues since Mosaic and the "web" starting taking over from gopher, I was strictly speaking about establishing a site with the basics of the online presence that existed at shadowrunrpg.com and hosted all the Missions Campaigns.
absolute links, relative links, IP address conflicts, mail setup are all easily mitigated. The transfer of the original
DNS record is of course a tricky legal matter, but the establishment of a secondary
DNS record takes mere minutes.
In any case, I don't want to add any stress. Thanks for the update and good luck with those last four (especially that last item..
)
coolgrafix
Aug 13 2007, 09:32 PM
QUOTE (Adam @ Aug 13 2007, 11:54 AM) |
Before you guys go on a mile-long tangent... |
Having been both the victim of (and occasional cause of) several botched registrar switches over the years, I understand there are several points of failure: missed authorization emails, unresponsive folks in the food chain, auth codes that don't work, auth codes that worked but were acted upon too late, etc.
Since I find it hard to believe that the FanPro folks would haggle over or refuse to transfer the domain (or just change the DNS record for that matter), I'm assuming it's one of the points of failure above. But the lack of an official word is tearing me apart. =) Yes, I'm that pathetic.
In the spirit of tangent prevention, which I am a big fan of, can you shed more light on the issue? =)
Adam
Aug 15 2007, 03:47 AM
Sprite's new dining room table has way more room for laptops than the old one!
Shadowrun4.com
Zolhex
Aug 15 2007, 05:09 AM
Woot updates are back!
BookWyrm
Aug 15 2007, 03:01 PM
Drat. Scooped again!
toturi
Aug 15 2007, 03:07 PM
Isn't it time for A Very Bad Day yet?
DireRadiant
Aug 16 2007, 05:30 AM
QUOTE (toturi) |
Isn't it time for A Very Bad Day yet? |
THursday , Indianapolis, I'm running it.
the_dunner
Aug 19 2007, 09:10 PM
QUOTE (toturi) |
Isn't it time for A Very Bad Day yet? |
By the time the web site fixes were more or les resolved, full GenCon panic was going on. I imagine it'll go up on the web site this week. However, if you need your fix, drop me an e-mail at
shadowrunmissions@gmail.com. I'll get it out to you as soon as I can.
Zhan Shi
Aug 23 2007, 01:57 AM
www.shadowrun4.com
BookWyrm
Aug 26 2007, 12:49 AM
I already added it into my Favorites & it comes up fine.
Zolhex
Sep 12 2007, 11:18 PM
Question??????
As a Commando I made the decision to get business cards made so that my players at my firebase and at conventions would have a nice handy list of websites to check out.
I put Catalyst on it I put Shadowrun on it I put Battletech on it I put the fourms for both on it I put my firebase on it and lastly my email addy.
Now after I did all that the website for Shadowrun has changed so that my cards are no longer correct.
So my question is will the previous site ever be back to bing the offical Shadowrun site or is this new one going to remain?
Also I have a question I have submited a couple of times and so has a player of mine nither of us has gotten an answer using the link at the bottom of the SR4 site for emails is there somewhere else we need to send our questions?
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