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Does anyone know if Hatchetman's story from Shadowtech is posted on the web? I've looked but did not find.
| QUOTE (Thane36425) |
| Does anyone know if Hatchetman's story from Shadowtech is posted on the web? I've looked but did not find. |
Hatchetman's story was in Cybertechnology, not Shadowtech.
| QUOTE (Fortune) | ||
Hatchetman's story was in Cybertechnology, not Shadowtech. |
That's right. All the same, anyone know if it is posted on the internet somewhere?
I doubt it. Posting it in its entirety would be a copyright violation.
| QUOTE (eidolon) |
| I doubt it. Posting it in its entirety would be a copyright violation. |
Probably so. I thought I had seen it on one of the "official" websites though in an archive. If it was up, its gone now.
I am not sure if posting it would be a copyright violation as it is a small portion of the entire book.
Whatever, though.
I am pretty certain a few copies of Hatchetman's story floating around the web. Ask and someone will probably PM you one.
Whatever, though.
I am pretty certain a few copies of Hatchetman's story floating around the web. Ask and someone will probably PM you one.
It depends on the length of the story... I belive under international copyright law you can reproduce to two pages of a book before the lawers can be set loose. I belive that those two pages can be made available on the internet since Amazon and the like lets you read two pages from the books that you can look inside when ordering. I'm no lawer though, this is just what I've delt with when photocopying books at school.
Schools have different rules regarding what they can reproduce, and Amazon -- to the best of my knowledge -- has the publisher's permission for such previews.
Well, Like I said, I recalled seeing it posted on a site. However, the bookmark I had to that site no longer works. That was one to probably the main Shadowrun site since it had lots about the books, weekly adventures for download and all that. Hadn't checked it for ages then go looking for something and it isn't there anymore, at least not via the old bookmark. I'll just have to dig around and find my old copy of Cybertechnology.
I'm pretty sure it's never been posted to the official Shadowrun site, since I've been the one maintaining that site since 2001...
However, since it's low on the PDF conversion list but the fiction is somewhat topical [well, as topical as "historic" fiction can be], perhaps it shall show up on the site soon...
However, since it's low on the PDF conversion list but the fiction is somewhat topical [well, as topical as "historic" fiction can be], perhaps it shall show up on the site soon...
If anyone is interested in a short summary of what happened, I can post what I remember from my book (which is at home atm).
[ Spoiler ]
I asked Frank abou this in the Augmentation Review thread. He said "absolutely not". I too miss Hatchetman. But unless Frank is overuled, Hatchet's gone.
| QUOTE (Zhan Shi) |
| I asked Frank abou this in the Augmentation Review thread. He said "absolutely not". I too miss Hatchetman. But unless Frank is overuled, Hatchet's gone. |
That's a shame. I like to show that story to people when talking about the effects of cyberware on a person. That's why I was looking for a copy, having this discussion again in a group.
Look at it this way... has anyone seen Hatchetman's body? Did they conclusively, positively, and irrefutably ID it?
If you can't say yes to each of those questions, then how can one be sure he's dead?
It's the standard MO of many runners. The opposition ain't dead until you've verified they are dead. How come everyone is so willing to take a pass on that very MO with regards to Hatchetman? Do you know if Frank is shooting straight or if he's hiding something for use later on?
Hmm?
(This means he's still alive in *your* games if you so choose. Wouldn't be the first time a player has retconned something.)
If you can't say yes to each of those questions, then how can one be sure he's dead?
It's the standard MO of many runners. The opposition ain't dead until you've verified they are dead. How come everyone is so willing to take a pass on that very MO with regards to Hatchetman? Do you know if Frank is shooting straight or if he's hiding something for use later on?
Hmm?
(This means he's still alive in *your* games if you so choose. Wouldn't be the first time a player has retconned something.)
It was something like 15-16 years ago that Hatchetman underwent Cybermantic surgery. At a time when the expected lifespan of the end result was typically measured in weeks.
| QUOTE (darthmord) |
| Look at it this way... has anyone seen Hatchetman's |
A change to keep in the spirit of things, since there is so little meat body left.
I think it was assumed that after his entry in the cybermancy book, he lost what little humanity he had left. He is probably dead (deactivated? broken?) by now but if he is still operational he is not "Hatchetman" in any way that is important. 
He has becomed a SR Collectible card!!! ^_^
If he is alive he would costing someone a small fortune. The medical costs of keeping a 'Zombie of that level going is IIRC bloody expensive.
| QUOTE (Shockwave_IIc) |
| If he is alive he would costing someone a small fortune. The medical costs of keeping a 'Zombie of that level going is IIRC bloody expensive. |
highlighted for old-skool lulz...
You know I've been thinking this could be a cool run, with improved cybertech maybe they could bring his memory/personality back. Just break into an omega level security facility and steal one of their own top level cyber killing machines to try and restore his humanity while stopping him from killing the team trying to rescue him, and avoid the corp trying to get him back!
Did we ever hear who had Hatchetman? If fuchi, well, who knows what got misplaced when that corp broke up?
Did we ever hear who had Hatchetman? If fuchi, well, who knows what got misplaced when that corp broke up?
| QUOTE (Naysayer) | ||
highlighted for old-skool lulz... |
I see what you did there.
I aim to please.
As usual, i fail...
As usual, i fail...
Here is a copy of Cybertechnology.
For under $10 USD, you too can find out the story behind Hatchetman. (Note: I am in no way affiliated with the seller, I just saw the book on e-bay and remembered the post here...)
For under $10 USD, you too can find out the story behind Hatchetman. (Note: I am in no way affiliated with the seller, I just saw the book on e-bay and remembered the post here...)
For $10, I will mail a copy of Cybertechnology anywhere in the continental U.S. - postage paid and tax free.
| QUOTE (darthmord) |
| Do you know if Frank is shooting straight or if he's hiding something for use later on? |
I'm out of the writing game, I leave the country to go to med school in Prague tomorrow. So there literally isn't any "later on" use that I can get out of official story elements. Hatchetman was made into a cyberzombie several years before cyberzombies could live for several years. I like to think that he managed to go out in a blaze of glory, but if he didn't it is because noone took him down before the cancer and sepsis did.
I couldn't write in "how Hatchetman barely survived because he's awesome" - that would have cheapened his story. Also, the storyline was already well advanced of when Hatchetman would have died by the time it fell into my hands. That's why I used an entirely different cyberzombie as a subject interview for Augmentation (Probably Gavin).
-Frank
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