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the_dunner
Hey folks,

As we're getting into the final bit of the Denver story arc, and preparing for the next arc, the writing team came to the conclusion that it would be a good idea to collect some feedback from our players and GMs.

So, with that in mind, a short survey has been posted to the Shadowrun web site. In hopes of persuading folks to complete the survey, CGL has been kind enough to offer a $25 gift certificate to a randomly selected person who completes the survey.

If you've played, GM'd, or even read any of the SRM Denver scenarios, we'd really appreciate it if you'd take a few moments to complete it.

Thanks for your time!
DireRadiant
I can tell from the questions some of the possibilities being considered. smile.gif
RobertB
For a while now, I've felt that they should combine the missions into a single book in the style of the Adventure Path series from Dungeon. They would need to re-do the maps at the very least (upgrading them and using a consistent art style and scale), provide a little more background on the NPCs and their motivations, provide a little more background on the overall plot and events that are happening in the city, and tie the missions together a little more strongly. Sure, not much at all. Done that way, it would be worth a 30 or 40 purchase to me.

Robert (aka Spanner)
Caine Hazen
Unfortunately with the number of people involved in Missions there are complications with the big collection. I wish it would happen though, cause I'm more than willing to update my maps (in fact I've considered redoing a few and hosting them on my own). a Big Book of Missions would rock though.
DireRadiant
SR4 Denver Boxed set.

If it can't be done for the Denver arc, might plan ahead for the next set of Missions to have this as the end result.
the_dunner
QUOTE (RobertB)
Done that way, it would be worth a 30 or 40 purchase to me.

That's something that I was initially very interested in doing. However, there are a few other challenges that we'd need to overcome. The least of which is just the cost.

Even dropping the boiler plate text, cover sheets, and ToC from each adventure, we're averaging over 20 pages per adventure (including maps et al) . 20 pages * 25 adventures works out to 500 pages. There's just no way to do a small press run of a 500 page book and have it come out in the 30-40 price point.
DireRadiant
You could go with the best of the best, cut it down to what makes a publishable book, looks like you just need half the missions to make a 250 pager.

Plus you save space on re used NPCs and contacts. smile.gif
noonesshowmonkey
Yeah it could be released with a CD that has the PDFs of the adventures not published in text... That way the all show up, even if not tangibly. You can have all of the plot device missions be in print with supporting, optional-ish adventures in pdf on CD or via download.

Coolness.

- der menkey

"Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter."
~ Ernest Hemingway
pbangarth
I don't know how far along decisions for the next arc(s) have gone, but I would like to put in two-cents-worth for a set of missions that take place outside the urban environment. I believe there is a lot of fun and profit out there in the wilds, and it would give a chance for a different kind of PC to shine.
tisoz
QUOTE (pbangarth @ Feb 12 2008, 12:25 PM) *
I don't know how far along decisions for the next arc(s) have gone, but I would like to put in two-cents-worth for a set of missions that take place outside the urban environment. I believe there is a lot of fun and profit out there in the wilds, and it would give a chance for a different kind of PC to shine.

I know one of the missions I ran was an out of town job involving a road trip, freezing weather, and snow blocked roads. So there is at least one mission set outside the urban environment.
DireRadiant
There's "A Very Bad Day" set in an astral dimension featuring a wilderness and lots of rock climbing.
the_dunner
SRM02-09 Tunnel Vision, SRM02-12 Winter Wonderland, SRM02-14 Wetwork, Pure and Simple, and SRM02-18 A Very Bad Day all have significant portions of the adventures in non-Urban environments. While the setting for the next story arc will be primarily urban, it's safe to say that we will also have scenarios that require the PCs to leave the "comfort" of those environments.
pbangarth
Ahh... well...guess who's behind in his Missions gaming and shows it? frown.gif frown.gif frown.gif
Zolhex
Now if only we could coax out the new location from Dunner rotfl.gif
Aaron
QUOTE (Casazil @ Feb 13 2008, 02:26 PM) *
Now if only we could coax out the new location from Dunner rotfl.gif

I'll start a pool with you, but I get to pick first.
the_dunner
QUOTE (Aaron @ Feb 13 2008, 03:30 PM) *
I'll start a pool with you, but I get to pick first.

C'mon, no teasing. Remember, Everyone's your friend. cyber.gif

Oh, and, incidentally, the Shadowrun event schedule for Origins has already been submitted. GenCon should go in within the next week. It might just be possible that there could be some references to the new Missions campaign in their events lists.
Aaron
I'm not really teasing so much as exploiting. But point taken. On second thought, I'll do the right thing.
the_dunner
Don't worry about it -- we'll be able to start spreading the news in no time.
Aaron
Good, I can't wait. It's gotta be somewhere; I'm sure there's a place for us, somewhere.
BishopMcQ
Is it too late to have the next arc placed on Z/O? That'd be fun, extermely difficult to organize a sustained campaign, but fun...
swirler
QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Feb 14 2008, 06:48 PM) *
Is it too late to have the next arc placed on Z/O? That'd be fun, extermely difficult to organize a sustained campaign, but fun...

that reminds me of this idea I've had forever for a SR game possibly since I started playing back in the SR1 days. Have it set in the standard sprawl and have the team for some reason go as far as they could on the borders. Have them find out that their entire lives have been spent on a contained colony on the moon. No one they can find is aware of it. Have hints dropped all along so that when they look in hindsight it's obvious. Then it could go diferent places, maybe they accept it, maybe they try to take over, or panic everyone. maybe they try to leave. Then it comes down to, are they still in contact with earth? Were they all abandoned? There are a lot of possibilities.
Zolhex
QUOTE (Aaron @ Feb 13 2008, 03:30 PM) *
I'll start a pool with you, but I get to pick first.


Yeah cause as a writer that would only be fair right? rotate.gif
Aaron
QUOTE (Casazil @ Feb 15 2008, 12:50 PM) *
Yeah cause as a writer that would only be fair right? rotate.gif

Um ... maybe ... cool.gif
the_dunner
QUOTE (Aaron)
Good, I can't wait. It's gotta be somewhere; I'm sure there's a place for us, somewhere.

Well, since we've been high in the Rockies under the evergreens, I think it's safe to say that it'll be a substantial change of venue.
Aaron
QUOTE (the_dunner @ Feb 16 2008, 09:18 AM) *
Well, since we've been high in the Rockies under the evergreens, I think it's safe to say that it'll be a substantial change of venue.

Well, you're the guy in charge. And with great power comes great responsibility.
the_dunner
QUOTE (Casazil @ Feb 13 2008, 03:26 PM) *
Now if only we could coax out the new location from Dunner rotfl.gif

While Aaron and I have been having fun dropping hints, it was announced today during the chat -- the next story arc will be set in New York City. (So, folks might want to check out the info on Manhattan in Corporate Enclaves.)
swirler
ah good thing I just got Corporate Enclaves
question, will the current missions still be acceptable from somewhere or do I need to grab them all now to have them?
when I start my new SR4 game i had thought about using the missions games to get started, and get everyone going since none of us have played the current batch.
Cadmus
mmm ok question simply becouse from the corp book, will their be a cheap brib option for non pretty and talkie type chars? like with the border crossing in denver? I ask since in corp enclaves it talks about some heavy sec all around smile.gif

the_dunner
QUOTE (swirler @ Feb 16 2008, 10:44 PM) *
question, will the current missions still be acceptable from somewhere or do I need to grab them all now to have them?

They'll remain available. smile.gif Remember -- the SR3 Missions are still free downloads.

QUOTE (Cadmus @ Feb 17 2008, 03:05 AM) *
mmm ok question simply becouse from the corp book, will their be a cheap brib option for non pretty and talkie type chars? like with the border crossing in denver? I ask since in corp enclaves it talks about some heavy sec all around smile.gif

We always try our best to remember that PCs will be approaching situations from all sorts of different character backgrounds. So, yes, we'll have something along these lines.
swirler
QUOTE (the_dunner @ Feb 17 2008, 06:34 AM) *
They'll remain available. smile.gif Remember -- the SR3 Missions are still free downloads.
ah cool, thanks
and also thanks for understanding I meant "accessible" when I put "acceptable"
*rolls eyes*
I blame it on being exhausted
cyber.gif
Argonnite
QUOTE (the_dunner @ Feb 16 2008, 02:46 PM) *
While Aaron and I have been having fun dropping hints, it was announced today during the chat -- the next story arc will be set in New York City. (So, folks might want to check out the info on Manhattan in Corporate Enclaves.)


Is the premiere going to be at Origins or GenCon?
the_dunner
QUOTE (Argonnite @ Mar 5 2008, 04:43 PM) *
Is the premiere going to be at Origins or GenCon?

Origins, though the premiere events will all be available at GenCon. (And, GenCon will also feature an NYC-based SRM Scramble.)
cryptoknight
Any word yet on transferring existing missions characters to the NYC arc?

Will we have to do a Karma transfer like 3rd to 4th or will our characters move?
the_dunner
QUOTE (cryptoknight @ Mar 6 2008, 05:04 PM) *
Any word yet on transferring existing missions characters to the NYC arc?

Will we have to do a Karma transfer like 3rd to 4th or will our characters move?

No announcements have yet been made. When we make 'em, they'll be obvious. smile.gif
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