I have just seen on EBAY a listing for a load of PDFS of shadowrun books. I cant belive that these are official. Do the powers that be want to jump on someone pelase.

was on co.uk site do you want anymore info?

Link?

Search foo reveals

http://cgi.ebay.com/68-Shadowrun-RPG-Books...p3286.m63.l1177

Down at the bottom of the listing is e-bays thing to report the item. I'd suggest people do so.

I dont think they can do anything unless the IP owner gets in touch.

I'm going with the photocopies of printed material category for the report, I'd recommend others do the same.

Thats my good deed for the day.

I know that somepeople feel that having scanned PDFs of old and out of print games is acceptable however its things like this that will stop smaller companys republishing there books. Well that what i think at least.

I thought the "media on recordable format" fit better considering he said it was a DVD and he has more than one copy of each.

As I understand copyright law, it is okay to create a digital copy of a book you own for personal use, but that only the copyright holder may distribute such files in any way.

Some argue from this that it is okay to download digital copies of books you already own, but that is sketchy on the downloader's end (and still illegal on the providers end).

I would love PDF's of all my old Shadowrun sourcebooks (for searching purposes, I own every book published to date), and would even pay a few dollars for said PDFs. While I cannot bring myself to pay the 10+ dollars currently being charged, I also do not begrudge WizKids/Catalyst from charging what the market will bear (the more they make the better for new product development).

Regardless anyone selling illegal copies is vile.

From what I've seen of PDF scans of old books, they usually aren't even searchable, but are merely a PDF of the images scanned in.

there's tools to change those shortcomings *g*

It most likely as well hes just selling a torrent hes downloaded.

How did this Ebay seller get so good a rating when he sells crap like Torrents of documents? That's just plain funny.

This is an administrative posting.
Please avoid all discussions of internet piracy, as it closely toes the line of a violation of the terms of service.

Warnings, edits, and a thread lock will be issued as necessary, for posts that discuss this.

As a reminder of the relevant Terms of Service:

do business with associates and get them to give you good ratings . . ebay fraud is easy as shit if you're living close enough to each other . .



we're COMPLAINING about this sort of thing here! o.o

Yah exactly... it's definately a torrent. Last I checked there's no such book as the Ultimate Equipment List.

/reported to ebay.

No discussing piracy?

B-b-but shadowrunners!

And thus the problem with censorship. If you can't discuss illegal acts, you can't tell the cops why you're calling them.

For the record: Only the post that actually contains the link could even vaugely be considered to violate the TOS, on account of (almost) containing pirated materials--and maybe the post that asked for the link, for (almost) requesting them. No one here is advocating piracy, and discussion is not banned in the TOS--possibly because it would make discussion of certain in-game hacker/technomancer actions impossible.

Nothing wrong with a reminder though

I hate these kind of sellers on e-bay. I used to make freeware adventure games and had a dude put them and some other authors free stuff on a cd and sell it. It was pretty lame.

I'll go report this dude too, if I still can.

I think it was really more of a blanket caution than anyone else. No Adminitrative Warnings went out to any individuals, as no one really broke any major rules, but... We're touchy about any links to a source of illegal PDFs. We maintain a really good relationship with CGL, so we try to support them as much as possible. One way is to do our best to discourage things like this that could hurt the company.

We do appreciate the heads up. In the future though, it may be better to simply contact the admin here, or send a message or two to the CGL folks (THere's several addresses on shadowrun4.com).

Bull

Good catch Count_Zero.

Ill keep bulls comment in mind if i notice anything again.

Though hypothetically this might actually have made a difference.

COnsidering a number of us reported them I'm suprised the listing is still up. Not impressive e-bay.

So, CGL, when do the Shadowruns against the seller and E-Bay start?

Hey stop talking about piracy! If you talk about piracy the terrorists win!

Sillyness aside if we are all reporting it wouldn't we not be supporting it? Also wouldn't it be best to give CGL a heads up so they can talk to ebay and have it removed? I don't think anyone has yet to have #5 broken, but I can see the hesitation and warning of the post created.

It appears to have been removed. if you click on the seller's name to look for other items he has for sale, it lists that he has zero items for sale.


- Always sell your stolen loot to a Fixer. Sure you lose most of it's value, but then at least you don't get caught.

At least until the 'Runners make the Fixer squeal, whereupon you find out that selling only the arm and the leg of the 'Runner is a bad idea.

A. Very. Bad. Idea.

Rule 35: That which does not kill you has made a tactical error.

Best, rule, ever.