It's been tradition with my gaming group to run a one shot pick up game on our birthdays. This is game is usually D&D. However, my birthday is tomorrow night. I've never had a birthday game before because it tends to fall around the weekend of Dragon Con and we're usually partying up there.
To the point at hand, my GM asked me what game I wanted for my birthday and I said Shadowrun. So in my inbox today I find an email entitled "Munchkin Fest 08." GM says he's allowing us to make whatever wacky min/maxed creations for shadowrun we want. He said any SR4 book was fair game. He also upped the Build Points to 500 (still have to stick to 200 for stats), raised the cap for nuyen to 70 points and said there was no gear restrictions. If you've got the cash, you can have it. For reference I have BBB, Street Magic, Arsenal, Augmentation and Runner's Companion.
He told us to come to game loaded for dragons as he was going to have some crazy opponents set up for us. My problem is I've never really looked for ways to exploit the system. I've looked at some of the old Mr.Lucky/Pornomancer builds, but I was wondering what was possible to create under the guidelines he gave us. We also get the bonus of a "bank error" for our regular SR campaign for each individual who survives.
Any help making something outlandish would be greatly appreciated.
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well, there's binky
my concept of a 4 legged, 6 armed cantaur cyber-zombie, carrying more armor than any main battle tank could hope to pierce
essence somewhere between -10 and -20 . .
my concept of a 4 legged, 6 armed cantaur cyber-zombie, carrying more armor than any main battle tank could hope to pierce
essence somewhere between -10 and -20 . .
http://fieldsoffire.wikidot.com/char-list these guys are made with 1000 karma but you might be able to see some work arounds. But let me see for any idea a free spirit will survive full stop. has to get its over flow filled force times to die. A drake could be fun as well same with any thing with the regen power.
Whens the Deadline?
I might be willing to post an Idea...
I might be willing to post an Idea...
If the challenge is to live then a force 6 free spirit focusing on stealth is your best bet add a natural weapon and you have a nasty little thing. If you want i can make it for you.
if you want to show the GM how broken the system can be, look up brick, bloodzilla, the ultimate mundane climber, and some sort of pornomancer and gun-bunny . .
elf shaman/adept/face/gunbunny with possession tradition . . more or less the most you can get out of one single character . .
charisma helps with the magic, agility helps with the shooty bits, charisma helps with the talking, summonned/possessed spirit helps with the shooty bits . .
elf shaman/adept/face/gunbunny with possession tradition . . more or less the most you can get out of one single character . .
charisma helps with the magic, agility helps with the shooty bits, charisma helps with the talking, summonned/possessed spirit helps with the shooty bits . .
QUOTE (venenum @ Sep 4 2008, 07:35 PM) 
Whens the Deadline?
I might be willing to post an Idea...
I might be willing to post an Idea...
The game isn't until Saturday at 2pm.
Thanks for all of these suggestions. They're great.
looking for something munchy?
if you don't wanna hook up with some pot-heads, dumpshock is your ressource ^^
if you don't wanna hook up with some pot-heads, dumpshock is your ressource ^^
QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 4 2008, 07:39 PM)
If the challenge is to live then a force 6 free spirit focusing on stealth is your best bet add a natural weapon and you have a nasty little thing. If you want i can make it for you.
That would be fantastic. I'd love to see what you come up with.
Im in the middle of making a Dzoo-Noo-Qua Adept. I think I can make it work.
QUOTE (venenum @ Sep 5 2008, 01:09 AM)
Im in the middle of making a Dzoo-Noo-Qua Adept. I think I can make it work.
Fomori as base, i hope?
A gnome/goblin would also be possible, though the iron vulnerability could hurt.
But if you're facing dragons, Immunity (fire) would be gold.
QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Sep 4 2008, 08:17 PM)
But if you're facing dragons, Immunity (fire) would be gold.
I'm not sure if the GM was dropping a hint or if he was updating the old saying of "being loaded for bear." I think I may prep for fire resistance, just in case.
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 4 2008, 07:47 PM)
looking for something munchy?
if you don't wanna hook up with some pot-heads, dumpshock is your ressource ^^
if you don't wanna hook up with some pot-heads, dumpshock is your ressource ^^
If you need expert advice, go see the experts
Yes... Would Vehicle weapons be man portable for said troll? Im thinking a light autocannon? Im mean come on it is a troll...
And what skill would be used? Also can form fitting body armor be worn under milspec?
And what skill would be used? Also can form fitting body armor be worn under milspec?
Just take a city master..... AD-80 might be 500BP as hes nearly all gear. Depends if its twice the BP on mental attributes or not.
But. But. But. Thats not munchkiny 
Do the infected need to breathe? (aside from ghouls that is.)
Do the infected need to breathe? (aside from ghouls that is.)
vamps do. unsure about the rest
QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 5 2008, 01:39 AM)
Just take a city master..... AD-80 might be 500BP as hes nearly all gear. Depends if its twice the BP on mental attributes or not.
I was thinking about jarheads, too.
The problem is, the CCU would eat up 50 of the 70 BP for ressources.
With the rest, you could try and outfit a not too expnsive vehicle or drone, but you'd have to subtract another 15.000 for the cyborg adaptation, leaving you with only 85.000 for all your gear.
It could work, but it might get tricky.
A) Be an AI
B)Choose Zurich Orbital as your home node.
C)Build yourself a drone army.
D) ???????????
E) Profit!!!
Really, it very much depends on the fluffy stuff rather than the hard rules. There is a great deal of leeway in character creation for things like contacts and lifestyles. If you do then right you can really munch out without munching out.
Other than that, it depends on the type of character you want to play. I wouldn't recommend a Free Spirit (you seriously can't munch a Free Spirit because they're so limited. I've tried and given up.) Because even at Force 6 they're extremely vulnerable to Initiates, other Free Spirits (NPCs which lack the Force limitation, or example) and especially Dragons.
B)Choose Zurich Orbital as your home node.
C)Build yourself a drone army.
D) ???????????
E) Profit!!!
Really, it very much depends on the fluffy stuff rather than the hard rules. There is a great deal of leeway in character creation for things like contacts and lifestyles. If you do then right you can really munch out without munching out.
Other than that, it depends on the type of character you want to play. I wouldn't recommend a Free Spirit (you seriously can't munch a Free Spirit because they're so limited. I've tried and given up.) Because even at Force 6 they're extremely vulnerable to Initiates, other Free Spirits (NPCs which lack the Force limitation, or example) and especially Dragons.
1. Capsule Rounds with Ringu fired full auto in suppressive fire. They'll laugh and ignore the machine pistol the first time, then they'll die like bishes.
2. Invoked Guardian Spirits in Heavy Military Armor** wielding Monofilament Weapon Foci in one hand and throwing Electrical Elemental attacks with the other.
3. Teams of three Guardian spirits one of which is high force providing counterspelling dice with two assistants.
4. A rating 6 shielding focus. Seriously.
5. Edge 7 as a human
6. Adrenaline Surge
7. Genetic Infusions like Inspiration and Sideways. If a mage, throw in Psyche drugs for reduced sustaining penalties.
8. A Technomancer in a Tomino. Stock TM will do then add 70 karma in extra Resonance so he can overfade his way through the matrix.
9. A gnome poser-elf with Astral Hazing, Mana Static, and 8-9 rating in Banishing.
10. Immunity to Narcojet treatment and Immunity to Neurostun treatment from Augmentation.
11. 8 vehicles with mortars and pilots instructed with single instructions aka "Flatten coord 123,987"
12. Sniper Rifles modified to fire full auto using AV ammo. Better than missiles if you have a gyromount or vehicle mount.
13. and lastly... Mob Mind. When all else fails ask the enemy to do your dirtywork.
**It'll take 1 service to get the darn spirit to stand still and get measured for the armor at first but hey, who doesnt like an armored war troll who can see Astral?
2. Invoked Guardian Spirits in Heavy Military Armor** wielding Monofilament Weapon Foci in one hand and throwing Electrical Elemental attacks with the other.
3. Teams of three Guardian spirits one of which is high force providing counterspelling dice with two assistants.
4. A rating 6 shielding focus. Seriously.
5. Edge 7 as a human
6. Adrenaline Surge
7. Genetic Infusions like Inspiration and Sideways. If a mage, throw in Psyche drugs for reduced sustaining penalties.
8. A Technomancer in a Tomino. Stock TM will do then add 70 karma in extra Resonance so he can overfade his way through the matrix.
9. A gnome poser-elf with Astral Hazing, Mana Static, and 8-9 rating in Banishing.
10. Immunity to Narcojet treatment and Immunity to Neurostun treatment from Augmentation.
11. 8 vehicles with mortars and pilots instructed with single instructions aka "Flatten coord 123,987"
12. Sniper Rifles modified to fire full auto using AV ammo. Better than missiles if you have a gyromount or vehicle mount.
13. and lastly... Mob Mind. When all else fails ask the enemy to do your dirtywork.
**It'll take 1 service to get the darn spirit to stand still and get measured for the armor at first but hey, who doesnt like an armored war troll who can see Astral?
@ Wasabi :
9. Be sure to pick up filtering, though.That is, unless your GM allows you to cheese out by geomantically attuning the haze to your own tradition.
13.Actually, an area-modified version of suggestion would be even better...
9. Be sure to pick up filtering, though.That is, unless your GM allows you to cheese out by geomantically attuning the haze to your own tradition.
13.Actually, an area-modified version of suggestion would be even better...
Well, this one isn't really that outlandish, but a pretty good combat build. The concept, for me, is of this really normal-looking ork, who doesn't look like a brutal killing machine most of the time.
[ Spoiler ]
Look in the cyberninja thread I made. Someone on a slight tangent came up with how you could make a 21 agility character.
Under those rules, I happen to know that you can get a human with every cyber limb, bulk modded, and loaded up with BOD and AGI 9, and STR 3, with and something disgusting like 10 - 20 armor depending on how much capacity you want to spend on it. Plus it lets you get away with 1s in all your physicals. Plus you have room and cash for a platelet factory and a damage compensator. You wind up walking around with a soak around 30, combat pools in the mid to high teens, a P track of 18 and the damage ware. Plus you can red-line a point or two pretty safely, or up to an agility of 18 if you wana asplode at the end of the round.
Another viable angle for disgusting is a troll possession mage with limbs to red line.
Yet another bit of brokenness to consider is if you can get any karma, you can do long term binding from SR. You pay karma equal to force, and you get a spirit do a "set of tasks" for a year and a day. Getting a force 7-8 spirit to "Possess, movement, and conceal, this milspec-ed armor is a really good use of 7 or 8 karma.
Another viable angle for disgusting is a troll possession mage with limbs to red line.
Yet another bit of brokenness to consider is if you can get any karma, you can do long term binding from SR. You pay karma equal to force, and you get a spirit do a "set of tasks" for a year and a day. Getting a force 7-8 spirit to "Possess, movement, and conceal, this milspec-ed armor is a really good use of 7 or 8 karma.
So your gear limit is 70, huh? $350,000 to play with? That means we're looking at $430,000 and a net +10 BP with Born Rich and In Debt. (You end up owing someone $45,000k, but this won't matter.) So you're going to buy yourself a Mitsuhama Tomino.
That's right, kid. You're playin' a cyborg.
Now, what's so good about a cyborg? Well, you're technically a vehicle. And once you slap 20 armor on that baby, you'll be immune to all damage that does less than 21P. You're also gonna get electromagnetic shielding 6 and a Vanquisher Autocannon -- yes, the minigun -- along with any other vehicle mods that suit your fancy. Oh, by the way? If you can find the rules for recoil on vehicle weapons, you're a better man than I.
Also, you're... pretty much not gonna need any stats. Just pump Gunnery as much as you can, remembering that you have 0.1 Essence.
That's right, kid. You're playin' a cyborg.
Now, what's so good about a cyborg? Well, you're technically a vehicle. And once you slap 20 armor on that baby, you'll be immune to all damage that does less than 21P. You're also gonna get electromagnetic shielding 6 and a Vanquisher Autocannon -- yes, the minigun -- along with any other vehicle mods that suit your fancy. Oh, by the way? If you can find the rules for recoil on vehicle weapons, you're a better man than I.
Also, you're... pretty much not gonna need any stats. Just pump Gunnery as much as you can, remembering that you have 0.1 Essence.
I'd taken initiuition highly and egde but 2-3s in the others will do unless you hack. Take some IC and a hacker in a box to help out and max your ccu comlink. Also get 4 ip with a control rig and rig boosters. Spend the rest on your body. Any spare shoul go in to suport drones (if you need them).
QUOTE (tsuyoshikentsu @ Sep 5 2008, 04:06 AM)
Vanquisher Autocannon -- yes, the minigun -- along with any other vehicle mods that suit your fancy. Oh, by the way? If you can find the rules for recoil on vehicle weapons, you're a better man than I.
I looked for something that would say you had to have at least x body to use a reinforced weapon mount and apparently thats a restriction on certain weapons not on the reinforced weapon mount itself. WOW.
As to recoil comp on vehicles in one place it says vehicles dont suiffer recoil at all and that its up to GM's how to handle recoil. In another place it says their body is the level of inherent recoil comp.
QUOTE (tsuyoshikentsu @ Sep 5 2008, 04:06 AM)
So your gear limit is 70, huh? $350,000 to play with? That means we're looking at $430,000 and a net +10 BP with Born Rich and In Debt. (You end up owing someone $45,000k, but this won't matter.) So you're going to buy yourself a Mitsuhama Tomino.
That's right, kid. You're playin' a cyborg.
Now, what's so good about a cyborg? Well, you're technically a vehicle. And once you slap 20 armor on that baby, you'll be immune to all damage that does less than 21P. You're also gonna get electromagnetic shielding 6 and a Vanquisher Autocannon -- yes, the minigun -- along with any other vehicle mods that suit your fancy. Oh, by the way? If you can find the rules for recoil on vehicle weapons, you're a better man than I.
Also, you're... pretty much not gonna need any stats. Just pump Gunnery as much as you can, remembering that you have 0.1 Essence.
That's right, kid. You're playin' a cyborg.
Now, what's so good about a cyborg? Well, you're technically a vehicle. And once you slap 20 armor on that baby, you'll be immune to all damage that does less than 21P. You're also gonna get electromagnetic shielding 6 and a Vanquisher Autocannon -- yes, the minigun -- along with any other vehicle mods that suit your fancy. Oh, by the way? If you can find the rules for recoil on vehicle weapons, you're a better man than I.
Also, you're... pretty much not gonna need any stats. Just pump Gunnery as much as you can, remembering that you have 0.1 Essence.
This is a great idea. Gave me all sorts of visuals because I watched Death Race last night.
So I was informed by my GM's roommate that we're going to start the run in a jungle and work our way up to hitting an Aztechnology research facility. The research facility is set up in a step pyramid of sorts. I'm putting my money on a good bit of environmental hazards, aside from whatever freakshow he's got cooking up inside the facility.
Thanks for all of the ideas guys.
Thanks for all of the ideas guys.
dose the recoil comp matter for the body where picking as it has 10.
QUOTE (Wasabi @ Sep 4 2008, 09:09 PM)
1. Capsule Rounds with Ringu fired full auto in suppressive fire. They'll laugh and ignore the machine pistol the first time, then they'll die like bishes.
2. Invoked Guardian Spirits in Heavy Military Armor** wielding Monofilament Weapon Foci in one hand and throwing Electrical Elemental attacks with the other.
3. Teams of three Guardian spirits one of which is high force providing counterspelling dice with two assistants.
4. A rating 6 shielding focus. Seriously.
5. Edge 7 as a human
6. Adrenaline Surge
7. Genetic Infusions like Inspiration and Sideways. If a mage, throw in Psyche drugs for reduced sustaining penalties.
8. A Technomancer in a Tomino. Stock TM will do then add 70 karma in extra Resonance so he can overfade his way through the matrix.
9. A gnome poser-elf with Astral Hazing, Mana Static, and 8-9 rating in Banishing.
10. Immunity to Narcojet treatment and Immunity to Neurostun treatment from Augmentation.
11. 8 vehicles with mortars and pilots instructed with single instructions aka "Flatten coord 123,987"
12. Sniper Rifles modified to fire full auto using AV ammo. Better than missiles if you have a gyromount or vehicle mount.
13. and lastly... Mob Mind. When all else fails ask the enemy to do your dirtywork.
**It'll take 1 service to get the darn spirit to stand still and get measured for the armor at first but hey, who doesnt like an armored war troll who can see Astral?
2. Invoked Guardian Spirits in Heavy Military Armor** wielding Monofilament Weapon Foci in one hand and throwing Electrical Elemental attacks with the other.
3. Teams of three Guardian spirits one of which is high force providing counterspelling dice with two assistants.
4. A rating 6 shielding focus. Seriously.
5. Edge 7 as a human
6. Adrenaline Surge
7. Genetic Infusions like Inspiration and Sideways. If a mage, throw in Psyche drugs for reduced sustaining penalties.
8. A Technomancer in a Tomino. Stock TM will do then add 70 karma in extra Resonance so he can overfade his way through the matrix.
9. A gnome poser-elf with Astral Hazing, Mana Static, and 8-9 rating in Banishing.
10. Immunity to Narcojet treatment and Immunity to Neurostun treatment from Augmentation.
11. 8 vehicles with mortars and pilots instructed with single instructions aka "Flatten coord 123,987"
12. Sniper Rifles modified to fire full auto using AV ammo. Better than missiles if you have a gyromount or vehicle mount.
13. and lastly... Mob Mind. When all else fails ask the enemy to do your dirtywork.
**It'll take 1 service to get the darn spirit to stand still and get measured for the armor at first but hey, who doesnt like an armored war troll who can see Astral?
*chokes on his lunch*Wow...that looks...familiar...BTW, Wasabi, speaking of all that, hit up my thread on formalizing Passport to Pain, I want your help
Ill post what I have now and see if you would like me to finish it. Ill put it up before I go to bed tonight.
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 4 2008, 05:45 PM)
if you want to show the GM how broken the system can be, look up brick, bloodzilla, the ultimate mundane climber, and some sort of pornomancer and gun-bunny . .
elf shaman/adept/face/gunbunny with possession tradition . . more or less the most you can get out of one single character . .
charisma helps with the magic, agility helps with the shooty bits, charisma helps with the talking, summonned/possessed spirit helps with the shooty bits . .
elf shaman/adept/face/gunbunny with possession tradition . . more or less the most you can get out of one single character . .
charisma helps with the magic, agility helps with the shooty bits, charisma helps with the talking, summonned/possessed spirit helps with the shooty bits . .
I'm not sure whether I should be flattered or saddened that 2 of my builds were in the first couple posts.
QUOTE (tsuyoshikentsu @ Sep 5 2008, 04:06 AM)
So your gear limit is 70, huh? $350,000 to play with? That means we're looking at $430,000 and a net +10 BP with Born Rich and In Debt. (You end up owing someone $45,000k, but this won't matter.) So you're going to buy yourself a Mitsuhama Tomino.
That's right, kid. You're playin' a cyborg.
Now, what's so good about a cyborg? Well, you're technically a vehicle. And once you slap 20 armor on that baby, you'll be immune to all damage that does less than 21P. You're also gonna get electromagnetic shielding 6 and a Vanquisher Autocannon -- yes, the minigun -- along with any other vehicle mods that suit your fancy. Oh, by the way? If you can find the rules for recoil on vehicle weapons, you're a better man than I.
Also, you're... pretty much not gonna need any stats. Just pump Gunnery as much as you can, remembering that you have 0.1 Essence.
That's right, kid. You're playin' a cyborg.
Now, what's so good about a cyborg? Well, you're technically a vehicle. And once you slap 20 armor on that baby, you'll be immune to all damage that does less than 21P. You're also gonna get electromagnetic shielding 6 and a Vanquisher Autocannon -- yes, the minigun -- along with any other vehicle mods that suit your fancy. Oh, by the way? If you can find the rules for recoil on vehicle weapons, you're a better man than I.
Also, you're... pretty much not gonna need any stats. Just pump Gunnery as much as you can, remembering that you have 0.1 Essence.
Would it be more cost effective to be a AI derived from a Pilot program and use the Tomino as my home node? I've only glanced over the AI rules, but seems like I could save $250k from not having to buy the jarhead mod and use the rest to tweak out my rolling house of doom.
But AIs cant get the cyber.
QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 5 2008, 04:48 PM)
But AIs cant get the cyber.
Technically, a jarhead can't either, it's all put into the drone body.
Also just clicked that the jarhead mod is $250k, and the Tomino is another $350k (unless there has been an errata reducing the price) so it's not possible to even create the character with the build restrictions I've got.
QUOTE (Tarantula @ Sep 5 2008, 09:27 PM)
I'm not sure whether I should be flattered or saddened that 2 of my builds were in the first couple posts.
coming from me?
that's a HUGE compliment ^^
under SR3 my builts generally gave players and GM's grey hairs *snickers*
QUOTE (Beetle @ Sep 5 2008, 05:28 PM)
Technically, a jarhead can't either, it's all put into the drone body.
Also just clicked that the jarhead mod is $250k, and the Tomino is another $350k (unless there has been an errata reducing the price) so it's not possible to even create the character with the build restrictions I've got.
Also just clicked that the jarhead mod is $250k, and the Tomino is another $350k (unless there has been an errata reducing the price) so it's not possible to even create the character with the build restrictions I've got.
Drones count as vehicles.
Vehicles can be bought used.
Used vehicles are suggested to be half book price.
Therefore used drones are suggested to cost half price
Q.E.D., Modus Ponens and all that rot!
QUOTE (Wasabi @ Sep 5 2008, 05:35 PM)
Drones count as vehicles.
Vehicles can be bought used.
Used vehicles are suggested to be half book price.
Therefore used drones are suggested to cost half price
Q.E.D., Modus Ponens and all that rot!
Vehicles can be bought used.
Used vehicles are suggested to be half book price.
Therefore used drones are suggested to cost half price
Q.E.D., Modus Ponens and all that rot!
Well dang, hadn't thought about that. thanks for clearing that up.
IIRC the CCU can have headwear and has an inbuilt controldeck so Id stci a nano hive in it with any other head wear that will help. Whats the aim of this to survie or kill as much as you can? survival wise a picksie or a free spirit focused on stealth will likely live and free spirits can't die unless you take a firendship pact or get damage over flowed force times.
QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 5 2008, 05:57 PM)
IIRC the CCU can have headwear and has an inbuilt controldeck so Id stci a nano hive in it with any other head wear that will help. Whats the aim of this to survie or kill as much as you can? survival wise a picksie or a free spirit focused on stealth will likely live and free spirits can't die unless you take a firendship pact or get damage over flowed force times.
A mix of survive and kill em all. I don;t really want to sit in a corner insivble and wait for the bullets to stop flying.
my original concept of binky had him with a CCU on the back, where the saddle would be on a usual horse . . squinky nixed that for his drawing, but all in all, 6 arms, one articulate arm weapon mount and 4 tracking mounts make for 11 weapons carried, and with the essence of -10 to -20, you get much hardened armor, much higher attributes and mages will flee in terror just when you enter part of the town ^^
One more thought, especially if you are going against the Azzies:
Contact: Ghostwalker (as high as you can)
Okay here is my Build for you. There is 30 Bp left over for oyu customI zation and 515 left over nuyen. I have not spent any free knowledge points. Note all attributes are the unaugmented from his powers and gear.
Well I hope that works for you If you have any questions let me know. The extra points are so you can use him/her as somethin other than a gunbunny.
[ Spoiler ]
Well I hope that works for you If you have any questions let me know. The extra points are so you can use him/her as somethin other than a gunbunny.
we pull these kind of games often at school. take a deep look at everything at your disposal and see what munchiness comes to you.
So how did it go?
QUOTE (venenum @ Sep 7 2008, 08:17 PM)
So how did it go?
I caught someone's (Dragon)Con plague.I was sick in bed all weekend (great way to spend my birthday). We're off this weekend due to life getting in the way for the group. Next weekend is my week to run, so there's no telling if we'll get to run that scenario.
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