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Mickle5125
QUOTE (Oenone @ Oct 1 2008, 02:37 PM) *
Hehe don't worry he's smart enough to know it's a long term aim. Don't forget drug dealing and suchlike, although Alexei has personal issues with prostitution. So ideally we don't dabble in that or else he will be awkward.


hmm... no forced prostitution. If we need it for whatever reason, we'll ask for volunteers.

as for the school... it's a little TOO public, I think. Individual teachers, sure. But while we're starting out, we should be subtle... we're little angels! There's no way we could be responsible for that firebombing! It must have been that other gang over there! O:-)
Little Johnson
thanks smile.gif im notorious for rapeing..er i meen pillage ..er.... useing my resorces to the fullest...yah thats it.
Oenone
Volunteers works okay!
Mickle5125
QUOTE (Oenone @ Oct 1 2008, 02:44 PM) *
Does sound like a sensible option.

After all the science lab is probably filled with the things we'd need for a drug lab, the autoshop class will help us get mobile and fix up any transport we get (and also can be a chop shop). A nexus for the hacker to code on would also go down a treat.... Hell robbing the school is actually a pretty profitable move.


computer lab and autoshop we could use if we charm the teacher. Science lab... we might have to blackmail the teacher into, simply because he'd have to watch over us since the stuff has such potential for lethal results.
Little Johnson
im not sure we would get any streetcred for acting the little angels.

Every day even today gangs run the schools

if done rite and we dont interfear too much with the routeen no one will pay atention to us that we dont want to.

maybe a teacher or 2 will think they can make a difference but we can slap them down fast enough.

blackmale works wonders for those actually worried about thier reputations.

teachers or admins with manufactured or real evedence against them do what we tell them to do especially if we dont make it too visable .

edit ..not to mention recruits will get the benefit of decent grades without ever going to class once we controll things
Oenone
QUOTE (Mickle5125 @ Oct 1 2008, 08:52 PM) *
computer lab and autoshop we could use if we charm the teacher. Science lab... we might have to blackmail the teacher into, simply because he'd have to watch over us since the stuff has such potential for lethal results.


I actually meant we could walk off with the tools etc, rather than use them in school. wink.gif
Mickle5125
*hums* well, I suppose what I'm trying to say is... we can't bite off more than we can chew if we want access to the school and the supplies within.
Oenone
Good point. We'll just have to balance our greed with a little caution.
Karaden
Looks like your all getting very into this, glad to see it. Few things I'd like to say.

First off, as I already posted, Estralding has until tomorrow to provide a character sheet. Given that he hasn't posted at all since his initial, I'm going to assume that he has died (Or something). DBA contacted me via PM to ask for a spot, so he'll get first chance at it. He'll have till Friday to post a character, if he doesn't, first person to post a character wanting to play will get the last slot. If there isn't any more interest, then we'll run with just 4 people. You'll be hurting for magic so I'll give a 5th minion who can do some magic. I'll let you guys battle to the death.... I mean pick between yourselves who gets to control him/her.

Second. Sounds like we've gotten some good name suggestions. I'd like everyone to send me (ie. PM) a vote of their two favorite gang names (not their own).

Third. As for the structure of the gang, that is really up to you guys. Until you guys set up some formal structure the gangers will respond to you all fairly equally. Set it up as a 'council' type thing, or with one person leader and rest commanders, kill off each other in a power play... ok, maybe not the last one, but you get the idea. Also, if you guys don't form an official structure, the gangers are going to start seeing one for themselves. (Which could be good or bad for you)

Fourth. A bit of info as to how I'm going to set up the gangers once you start getting more members (provided you manage to get more members).

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Lets see, where was I... Ah yes.

Fifth. I see alot of ideas for expansion and whatnot going on, and I'm happy to see this. This game is set up to be highly reactionary. I will of course throw unforeseen obstacles at you, but a large part of what happens will rely on what you try to do. Want to rob places? Great. Want to start a protection racket? Awesome. Want to stand around and wait for a Johnson? Not gonna be a great game.

Having said all that, there will be a ripple in the pond effect. As your gang gets bigger and bigger, stuff is going to start happening to you instead of because of you, but for the start especially, I want you guys to try whatever you want, I won't be railroading you. If your stuck on ideas, my handy little minions may offer up ideas and suggestions "Well why don't we get some drugs and start selling them?" (Hey, look, a freebie)

estradling
Introducing Gres Evitts

I still need to add his knowledge skill but I think everything else is there

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Karaden
QUOTE (estradling @ Oct 1 2008, 03:09 PM) *
Introducing Gres Evitts

I still need to add his knowledge skill but I think everything else is there

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You have the most absurd timing.
Oenone
Making us go out and do stuff works fine for me. Most of the offline games I'm playing in are of a similar format, with the GM having some kind of masterplan plot but letting the players go off and side quest whenever.

Leadership wise my vote is for Dryden, because he has Leadership and speaks Russian. Thus obviously being a better class of person than most! If we do the council approach then Alexei would personally prefer the enforcer style role and would like command of physical security arrangements.

If we end up with a mage NPC I'd be fine with someone else having him. I don't know the magic rules especially well, so someone else is probably a better candidate.

The gangers working the way you explained is quite good, means we don't need to keep track of every little detail as we expand as the number of people with the skills we might want expands as well.

Can we actually form up groups within the gang and train them up? As Alexei will probably (eventually) get together a personal fire team or two.

Edit @Everyone - Just to check, people do know wearing any armor with values more than double your body gives massive penalties right? Only I think Gres and Andrensath's hacker have low body and high armour combo's which could make them a bit restricted in terms of mobility.
Karaden
QUOTE (Oenone @ Oct 1 2008, 03:22 PM) *
Can we actually form up groups within the gang and train them up? As Alexei will probably (eventually) get together a personal fire team or two.

Edit @Everyone - Just to check, people do know wearing any armor with values more than double your body gives massive penalties right? Only I think Gres and Andrensath's hacker have low body and high armour combo's which could make them a bit restricted in terms of mobility.


Yes, you can. They'd count as lieutenants. Might be able to arrange a group to count as a single 'lieutenant unit' but would obviously be individually far less significant then a one man lieutenant. (ie. a group could count as a lieutenant, or you could have a group of lieutenants, with the latter being much more powerful, but a bigger drain on the gang's talent pool)

And I spoke to Estralding about the armor already. Missed it on Andrensath's. You can change it or leave it as is, up to you but you should now be fully aware of the potential trouble it could cause.
estradling
QUOTE (Karaden @ Oct 1 2008, 01:12 PM) *
You have the most absurd timing.



A mage is never early or late... but always posts exactly when they mean to biggrin.gif
Little Johnson
LOL estrada that made me laugh while i was on a conf call..haha
Mickle5125
*twitch twitch* oh... oh my... estradling... I don't know what to say.

wow. props for completely using a quote in context. more props for getting little johnson during a conference call. and even more props for making me burst out laughing just as my family came in the door.
Oenone
QUOTE (Karaden @ Oct 1 2008, 09:08 PM) *
Second. Sounds like we've gotten some good name suggestions. I'd like everyone to send me (ie. PM) a vote of their two favorite gang names (not their own).


I assume it's okay to wait for estradling to have time to come up with his ideas first? As I'm curious as to what our wizard is keeping under his hat. smile.gif
estradling
Death Doctors
Smoking Ice Scorpions
Black Widows
Black Knights
Death Road Ministry
Men Of Mayhem (Women too smile.gif )


Some silly ones nyahnyah.gif
Schoolyard Bully Beaters
The Little Tykes
Trigger Happy Tigers
Mickle5125
... why is Death Road Ministry so enticing to me?
Mickle5125
Dryden's backstory

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Oenone
Background and contact details for Alexie. Plus a bit about his personality.

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And here's the lifestyle.
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Little Johnson
ok here it is Tink the rigger

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Karaden
Ok everyone, looks like we're nearly ready to get started. I'm at school right now working on tweaking a program, so can't do too much, but when I get home I should be able to finish up the last minion and get all five posted. When I do that I'll also take the finalized character sheet for each of you and put it with the five minions in that reserved post way up at the front of this thread.

I'll assume that your most recent post with your character in it is your character (I'll also include background/descriptions in these consolidated sheets) You'll have through Friday to tell me any last minute changes you want made (ie the changing of armor for you low body people).

After that I'll keep track of updates to your character separately, so others won't know what skills/equipment/karma/nuyen/whatever you've gained. You of course get to track all this yourself too.

Now, I would like you to either PM me or post on this thread your various die pools (No IMs, I want somewhere I can bring up more easily). This should include weapon pools, computer action pools, magic pools, dodge pools, social pools, perception pools, and any others that your character is likely to use. Please include each bonus and where it comes from (So that I can do a quick check that everything adds up easily) For the most part you'll be rolling your own pools, but I want to have it all handy for a multitude of reasons, including the occasional secret check.

So, Little Johnson, I hope to see your character sheet by the time I get home (Which will be a good hour at least)

Also, all of you remember to do your final vote on the gang name. (Hopefully final, could in theory be a tie)

I think that's all I have for you gangsters. See you later.

Oh, one last thing. I'll be putting up IC and OOC threads either shortly after I put up the Minions or sometime tomorrow early afternoon.
Little Johnson
its up ill have the equipment up as soon as i get a few min to put it in.

lol keeping drones and equipment to availability 8 is tuff smile.gif
Karaden
QUOTE (Little Johnson @ Oct 2 2008, 03:40 PM) *
its up ill have the equipment up as soon as i get a few min to put it in.

lol keeping drones and equipment to availability 8 is tuff smile.gif


Yep, can be real difficult.
Oenone
Commonly used DP's below a spoiler tag. Erm I'm not sure how many situations you want me to account for, but I'll try cover the majority of things I can think of. Mainly being the skills on Alexei's character sheet, anything else is probably defaulting.

When posting I'll be sure to put down everything which makes up my roll. So you can see an exact breakdown of my DP's.
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Andrensath
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Armor's been downgraded to a leather jacket. Is it okay if I roleplay it as a trenchcoat anyway, as that's more in keeping with my character's style?

Dice pools follow. If I've missed any, let me know.
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Mickle5125
Dice Pools (all numbers are Pre-Kamikaze)

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Karaden
QUOTE
Armor's been downgraded to a leather jacket. Is it okay if I roleplay it as a trenchcoat anyway, as that's more in keeping with my character's style?

Dice pools follow. If I've missed any, let me know.


Sure, that's fine, though only the torso and arms areas will be covered as far as actual armor is concerned.

Mickle5125
soo... are we just going to use this as our ooc board, or are you going to be making a new board tomorrow?
estradling
I have updated the post with my sheet...

Added knowledge skills
Added Dice Pools
Adjusted Armor
Little Johnson
updated for common DPs

im not a gun monkey so will only be fighting with drones and such

When you have extra time could you give me a quick rundown on whats in the school shop? IE equipment
Im betting the hacker will want to know about the computer lab


Karaden
Alright everyone, I've got everyone's character up on the second post, so have a look over it and make sure I got the most current edition of your character and everything is good.

Also, if you don't see your background/description in the post, tell me and make sure it is added or you won't be in line to get the bonus Karma for a good background. Also a description of some kind would be nice for your character for those who don't already have one.

I'll be putting up IC and OOC threads in a few minutes, please don't post in them till I tell you to as I need to bit to get them sorted out. We will technically have two OOC threads, this one and the actual OOC thread. This one will be for discussion, general questions, and that sort of thing. The 'offical' OOC thread will be used for more direct matters (Confrimation on distance to target, line of sight, check on people's positions.)

Basically this board will be for the 'casual' OOC stuff, while the other will be for things that need to be known quickly (As in if time is limited I'll be checking and replying to that board before this one.)

@Little Johnson
I notice your character lacks a lifestyle and starting Nuyen. Should I assume your street lifestyle and use the 600 extra nuyen to your starting cash, or 500 for a squatter and put the other 100 to your starting nuyen?

P.S. MAKE SURE TO CHECK YOUR CHARACTERS ARE CORRECT IN MY POST THAT IS WHAT WILL BE IN MY OFFICIAL RECORDS.
Little Johnson
Doing the background now. Can i use the 500 for squater LS to be sneaking into the school shop to sleep and useing the school showers ect?

theres a newer version of mine with a knolage edit and dice pools
Karaden
QUOTE (Little Johnson @ Oct 3 2008, 01:02 PM) *
Doing the background now. Can i use the 500 for squater LS to be sneaking into the school shop to sleep and useing the school showers ect?

theres a newer version of mine with a knolage edit and dice pools


You can use 500 for Squatter Lifestyle, but it isn't going to be living in the school, they do have locks and such and would quickly notice someone picking them every single night.

Also, you greatly overestimate this school. The 'Machine Shop' is basically two sets of much used toolkits, and the 'computer lab' is a few sets of Metalinks and glasses with image links under lock and key.

There is a school node, but it isn't exactly anything to get excited about.

The chemistry lab is slightly better stocked (As the school gets it's minimal amount of funding from a chemicals Crop) but still doesn't amount to more then a couple of things slightly more interesting then what you can get from the local Stuffer Shack. Most labs are done via VR/AR to keep costs down and prevent anyone destroying the school (This holds true for all classes which would have labs.)
Little Johnson
Tinks Background

Yes hes a vindictive basterd.

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Oenone
The details for Alexei seem right to me.

Kinda amusing how Russian is so common in the party, perhaps one of the neighborhoods nearby is heavy on Russian immigrants?
Karaden
QUOTE (Oenone @ Oct 3 2008, 03:26 PM) *
The details for Alexei seem right to me.

Kinda amusing how Russian is so common in the party, perhaps one of the neighborhoods nearby is heavy on Russian immigrants?


Or perhaps the two Russians are cousins? We may never know...

Look for IC posts very shortly to get us started, and keep an eye out in your PM boxes for your background Karma awards.
Karaden
Let the action begin.

P.S. I haven't gotten any votes on the gang name since it was narrowed down to the final three. Vote soon or I'll be picking one.

Edit: Seems I forgot to ever put up the three tied names. Here they are:
Seattle Wolves
Death Road Ministry
Black Knights
Little Johnson
oops me too PMing
Karaden
*coughsupposedtobesentviaPMcough*
Oenone
Ahem and I'll edit this and PM it instead.... *Whistles*
Oenone
How do people want to handle this troll then? Violence might be tricky as I'm fairly sure we're all knife/gun/drone/spell users. Which makes most of the gang useless in a fist fight.

Alexei could hold his own against most people, having bone lacing and muscle aug, but against a Troll who could also be packing the same upgrades? Not so likely. Edit - A Troll who probably has muscle augmentation, potentially at a high rating too and is wearing an armor jacket. Head on assault with fists now seems like suicide.

On the plus side, he's stupid which means his commlink and thus maybe any implants are vulnerable and he's likely to have poor willpower which means mental manipulation spells could be an option?

I should note though, however we deal with him now /later/ should include something bad for him. Perhaps we can saw his horns off or something.
estradling
Gres has magic and could blast him... If we don't wish to go the direct confrontation route just yet Mind Probe or Physical Mask (Change him into something the troll would find embarrassing) Are my other options...

Gres's minion Lou has confusion and control actions...

Thats what I got
Karaden
Try and keep the OOC discussion about what actions your taking to a minimum when in the midst of things. I don't mind you planning here when there isn't any 'on screen' action, but please keep tactics discussion mid battle IC. (Yes, I am including the current encounter with Carson to be 'mid battle'.)

Edit:

Feel free for this encounter to post 'what you have' as your all friends and would know each other's abilities. But don't discuss what your going to do. I hope my intents with this is clear, I don't mind you discussing game stuff and future tactics and general tactics and such, but I don't want you talking about the particular fight that your in at the moment.
Little Johnson
i say we threating his friend . remind him that accedents happen all the time and even though hes pretty big and not likely to get too hurt...sometimes people he knows that are not so big and strong get hurt.


If i could think of a way top get him on our side that would be better... still thinking on that
Oenone
A description of Alexei. Because I totally forgot to write one up when I did his background.

Under a spoiler to save on space.

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Edit - I forgot to roll up starting Nuyen!

Starting Nuyen Roll. (2d6=5)

x20 for Squatter lifestyle gives a grand total of 100 Nuyen.
Karaden
And the winning name is:
Death Road Ministry

Now I can refer to the gang as a whole more easily. Expect to see it abbreviated as DRM.
estradling
Gres's starting funds roll 3d6+7=20 * 50 = 1000
Mickle5125
assuming we survive getting thrashed by the troll, I'd like to suggest putting some of our money into one fund for use by the gang as a whole. That way, we don't have to worry about collecting chunks o' cash along the way. We'll also be able to charge a membership fee of our minions to replenish the fund.
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