QUOTE (dirkformica @ Oct 23 2008, 07:03 AM)

For all those in the "no they don't combine" group, why does the BBB specifically state that Shock Hand cyberware can be put into the knuckles? Is it because the Obama bump was foretold as a way to sneakily taze someone? You don't think that the designers may have envisioned shocking someone with a punch?
Also, it's cybernetically a part of your body. I'm not talking about shock gloves here, but specifically Shock Hand. You have paid essence for the ability to taze people with your hands. They specifically mention these pads being in your knuckles. Am I noogying them to death? If you think those pads will be damaged if I combine them, does that mean I can never go into Unarmed Combat for fear of damaging them? Is my Unarmed Combat now Hassaan Chop and clumsy kicks for fear of damaging my cyberware?
Honestly I can buy the cop out of "it's for balancing purposes." It really does seem too much to be able to have some high strength melee dude smacking people for high physical and then to add insult shocking them for some stun too. I just wondered if there as anything official or if others have run games with this combo and seen what happens.
Ah, I was thinking about the shock gloves, not the cyberware.
Still my argument from before about having apply the taser for a decent length of time to have proper effect still stands. Even if unarmed combat is considered multiple smaller punches (Which seems unlikely as it would mean you'd never make it through decent armor) it still stands that each individual punch only makes contact for a brief instant, which isn't enough to cause real damage with a taser.
I don't advise this, but if you really want, grab a taser and a really good friend. Prod them with it for as short a time as you can manage. You can do this
dozens of times without knocking out your friend. If however you hold the taser to them for a second or two, you'll find them on the ground rather quickly.
So yeah, the electrodes are on the knuckles because that is very natural to someone skilled in fighting to punch someone. Only difference is that they need to hold the punch to the person for a moment instead of actually hitting them hard. Maybe if your friend is still conscious you can try this out. Try punching them and keeping your knuckles in constant contact with them after the punch. You'll find you have to chose between making the punch good, and making the knuckles stay connected.
Similar things happen with a stun baton. If you hit them hard enough to make the baton itself hurt, they don't touch the baton long enough for the electricity to do its work. If they hold the baton to the person, they aren't hitting them hard enough to make the baton itself hurt. Maybe a baseball bat and your friend could demonstrate this.
P.S. If you plan on doing all this to your friend, plan on getting a new friend.