hyzmarca
Dec 29 2008, 03:30 AM
There is actually a wikihow entry on this.
http://www.wikihow.com/FlirtAnd there are actually several schools of seduction around, some based on common sense advice, some more complex ones based on evolutionary psychiatry, and a small few that are downright predatory based on deeper psychological manipulation.
Reading body language and other non-verbal cues is rather important, because they'll give you an idea of how to approach the situation. The most difficult part, I think, is simply initiating conversation with a stranger, assuming that the person you are trying to flirt with in a stranger.
For this, there are a number of ice-breaking approaches, from the time honored tradition of saying something about the weather to the simple and direct "Hello, my name is" to the deceptive yet informative fake relationship survey.
I think the best advice available is to not be afraid to fail. Often, it won't work out. Either she won't be attracted to you or you'll lose interest due to some bit of information or personality quirk that comes up in conversation. There is nothing wrong with that. If you try often enough, eventually you'll be successful, if not due to improvement in technique due to experience then due to simple probability.
Wounded Ronin
Dec 30 2008, 12:34 AM
Bookmarked, Hyz!
Goddamn! I've been asking people for years how to flirt with females and nobody gives me a straight answer. Only, "it's really easy, you just do it, duurrrhh", and I get all furious and am like, "If it's so damn easy why can't you articulate it?"
Hocus Pocus
Dec 30 2008, 05:12 AM
easy enough to flirt. ya see a hot chick, walk up to her and smack her on the ass and say "that's a nice dress, it'll look even better crumpled at the foot of my bed".
sunnyside
Jan 3 2009, 10:28 PM
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Dec 29 2008, 07:34 PM)

Bookmarked, Hyz!
Goddamn! I've been asking people for years how to flirt with females and nobody gives me a straight answer. Only, "it's really easy, you just do it, duurrrhh", and I get all furious and am like, "If it's so damn easy why can't you articulate it?"
Honestly though most of it is just being willing to do it. Still the article has good basic advice with watching body language, giving your full attention, and be fun and positive not pushy or negative.
But the biggest part (especially in forum based stuff), is just being willing to initiate contact.
On that note I've had 4 DSers give it a shot. A mixed bag of results. While maybe I shouldn't have been. I was surprised to find SR players who would probably flick off and immortal elf lock up when I tried to shove them at a catgirl.
Wounded Ronin
Jan 4 2009, 03:26 AM
QUOTE (sunnyside @ Jan 3 2009, 06:28 PM)

Honestly though most of it is just being willing to do it. Still the article has good basic advice with watching body language, giving your full attention, and be fun and positive not pushy or negative.
But the biggest part (especially in forum based stuff), is just being willing to initiate contact.
On that note I've had 4 DSers give it a shot. A mixed bag of results. While maybe I shouldn't have been. I was surprised to find SR players who would probably flick off and immortal elf lock up when I tried to shove them at a catgirl.
Well the thing is that nobody could articulate exactly what flirting entailed in detail, so I had no way of knowing if what I was doing qualified as "flirting" or not. I also get more of a sense from that article that if you really, really, REALLY don't want to do it with someone you shouldn't force yourself, as it's a behavior that is supposed to have at least something to do with the emotions you're feeling. Before I'd had the feeling that you had to bust it out from time to time and do it to various females or else you were considered socially inept. But after reading the article I understand that there's truly no point to doing it if you, for example, actively dislike the female in question, or already know that you don't share any common interests, etc.
hyzmarca
Jan 4 2009, 11:45 PM
QUOTE (sunnyside @ Jan 3 2009, 05:28 PM)

On that note I've had 4 DSers give it a shot. A mixed bag of results. While maybe I shouldn't have been. I was surprised to find SR players who would probably flick off and immortal elf lock up when I tried to shove them at a catgirl.
Has no one yet asked "Is that your tail, or are you just happy to see me".
I think that some may still fear that you are Chris Hansen, despite your protestations to the contrary ( or perhaps because of them). The fact that it is a PG board doesn't help matters. I mean, the PG of today is the R of twenty years ago, but it is still a bit difficult to flirt over on a PG message board without including more sexual double-entendres than a semi-pronographic Rocky and Bullwinkle episode.
sunnyside
Jan 14 2009, 07:26 AM
QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Jan 4 2009, 06:45 PM)

Has no one yet asked "Is that your tail, or are you just happy to see me".
No, actually.
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The fact that it is a PG board doesn't help matters. I mean, the PG of today is the R of twenty years ago, but it is still a bit difficult to flirt over on a PG message board without including more sexual double-entendres than a semi-pronographic Rocky and Bullwinkle episode.
Actually the guys have done remarkably well with that. And they've been willing to throw in the odd naughty word that would get mods swinging around the banhammer.
I'm not sure weather or not it's because they're shy.
Anyway my last DSer on hand just PMed me that he's out taking care of a sick father. So there is a DS slot open if someone else wants to give it a try.
As for the Chris Hansen thing, it's a PG board. Frankly the "would cops beat my ass for this" test is a fair litmus test to keep in mind when posting.
Wounded Ronin
Jan 15 2009, 12:23 AM
Uh...do the cops usually beat your ass over smack talked on the internet?
sunnyside
Jan 15 2009, 04:33 AM
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jan 14 2009, 07:23 PM)

Uh...do the cops usually beat your ass over smack talked on the internet?
Well if you go a bit further they actually do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHlKlWCQemY&NR=1So, well, don't do that.
InfinityzeN
Jan 15 2009, 08:48 PM
Hell SS, I'd give it a shot... I just think I'm too far out there, most likely scare all the poor little girls.
I'm in the Mil, at a good work location that won't be changing for at least another two years, with nothing crazy in sight unless the world goes to hell in a hand basket. I can also post scattered over about 16 hours a day if I can hit the board at work. Only times I wouldn't be around are games I run, big events, race days, and car club events.
Cheers
*Edit*
Ha, I hit 'Moving Target in less than a month! Wooo Hooo!
InfinityzeN
Jan 15 2009, 10:07 PM
Neva'mind with any links by PM... I tracked down the forum and threads (hey, it's not that hard and I didn't even use special gov programs or search from your username). Will give them a read over and get back to you.
*Edit*
I don't see you having a lack of males running around. Seems they are posting as much as females.
hyzmarca
Jan 16 2009, 02:45 AM
QUOTE (sunnyside @ Jan 14 2009, 02:26 AM)

No, actually.
And I bet that no one has made a Pokemon trainer style character who has a very large pet fighting rooster for the sole purpose of being able to repeatedly use the phrase "my giant cock" without technically being obscene, either.
Tsk. Tsk.
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Actually the guys have done remarkably well with that. And they've been willing to throw in the odd naughty word that would get mods swinging around the banhammer.
Like "Funk & Wagnalls" and "Sock it to me"? If Laugh-In has taught us nothing, it is that you can get a great deal of mileage out of saying things that sound incredibly dirty but really aren't, such as "masticate" and "burn jello" and "oyster shucking ".
sunnyside
Jan 16 2009, 04:07 AM
QUOTE (InfinityzeN @ Jan 15 2009, 05:07 PM)

Neva'mind with any links by PM... I tracked down the forum and threads (hey, it's not that hard and I didn't even use special gov programs or search from your username). Will give them a read over and get back to you.
*Edit*
I don't see you having a lack of males running around. Seems they are posting as much as females.
Well since I last posted some of the guys have picked up a bit and some have mostly returned.
Actually they still don't have full female coverage. i.e. there are enough guys to go around but they aren't giving attention to all the females. Leaving a couple relatively lonely.
On the other hand the thread is flying right now. So adding might not be so hot an idea. I dunno.
If you like making characters as much as I do feel free to PM me a char. We can work out the details and then at least we'd be able to tactically deploy you.
Wounded Ronin
Jan 16 2009, 04:36 AM
QUOTE (sunnyside @ Jan 15 2009, 12:33 AM)

Well if you go a bit further they actually do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHlKlWCQemY&NR=1So, well, don't do that.
But that's really not talking smack. They're punishing him for bad grammar. Did you see his typing?
InfinityzeN
Jan 17 2009, 12:57 AM
Sorry it took a while to post again. I saw your message at 4am and started thinking and working up a character. Been busy all day (Military Sports Day, then an early game day for several hours).
I'll send you the character on the other forum. Best well to think of him is this: Total Nerd, zero girl experience, mind fractures into several parts each with full access to memories and the ability to communicate with each other, subconscious is now X times more powerful, his body begins rapidly adapting and optimizing itself (fully directed by his subconscious), his interaction and sensing of Ki and the universe is expanded by the same factor. He also doesn't believe in hitting people at the time he joins play (most likely will change rapidly depending on how things go).
Or in Dumpshock terms: A total nerd with no girl experience who is a *MEGA* Pornomancer with a really powerful subconscious tweaking his body (Improved Ability [all Social] 3, LOTS o' Kinesics, Attribute Boost [All] 1, Improved Reflexes 1, Rapid Healing 4, Facial [actually Body] Sculpt 4, Melanin Control, Voice Control, Commanding Voice, Metabolic Control), with lots of multiple minds (Analytics 8, Cool Resolve 4, Iron Will 4, Multi-Tasking), and really powerful Ki (Combat Sense 8, Blind Fighting, Spells: Ignite, Fling, Light, Magic Fingers, Poltergeist, Shadow).
Or my personal fav, taken from the last line describing his appearance...
If Mark ever gets the gumption (or much more likely the *BIG* push) to go to the pool wearing those bright yellow speedos Julia bought him, women will look at him like a desert counter serving Cheesecake flavored Cheesecake, double dipped in chocolate, with sprinkles [SPRINKLES People!!!], a cherry on top, zero calories or fat, and with a sign overhead saying "Free, Help Yourself!".
[Was originally going to go with "like a penis that taste like chocolate and ejaculates money" but I thought that was a little too... riskay']