The book says the hacking skill is linked to logic...however it seems at least 90 percent of the time instead of using logic you are simply using a program (usually exploit), so I guess my question is when would you ever make a Hacking + Logic Test without programs involved?

-Josh

Yes. Run a search, there are several threads that explore this in-debth with several house rules.

Each skill has a linked attribute. This one gets used if you use the logic+skill optional matrix rule, but really not at all otherwise.

Search results will be plenty.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but every time I run a search it just gives me every thread on the board. Anyway...what book is the Matrix Optional Rule in? Or link me some of these other threads and Ill go check them out.

It's in Unwired.

The search function has been infected by the dissonance. Advanced search does work - kind of.

The optional rule can be found in Unwired (pg.39, Using Attributes). Note that the cap on possible hits per test has a substantial effect on the odds of high-threshold hacking tests.

Thanks all.

Remember one important thing about the logic linked hacking skills:

Any device/ware that gives a bonus to "logic linked" skills will still give that bonus even if your not rolling logic, there are 2 bits of ware that all hackers (and techno's willign to take that 1 point hit in resonance) should never leve out

Nanohive: with neo-cortical stimulant (or whatever the one that gives +R to all logic linked skills is called)
PuSHeD

This will give +4 to all hacking/electronic warfare/software (including threading)/computer/etc rolls

Have fun

Don't forget about the Encephalon!

Remember a Nanohive with neo-cortical stimulant (or whatever the one that gives +R to all logic linked skills is called) gives his bonus only in nonstressfull situations. If you get this bonus during a hacking run is highly questionable and depends from your GM.

Best wishes,
Meschler

Slot that one Simsense Chip thing that makes you calm no matter what.

Focus Reality Amplifier. Just the thing for someone who lives in Hot VR and is going to end up addicted to it anyway.