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Stahlseele
OK, Warning first:
May be Inapropriate/NSFW depending on where you are watching this.
Proceed with Caution:
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/all_hail_robogeisha.php
I don't know why, but it kinda looked like something one could do in SR ^^
And i think THIS http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/05/super_...achine_girl.php has been here before.
Geisha is made by same people who make Machine Girl.
A bit more Street-Level Character yes?
Also probably NSFW yes?
Me stop with silly way of Posting now yes?
Larme
That might be cool in Anime, but it's totally retarded in live action. Especially with the low budget filming and effects those guys seem to be using.

As for a shadowrun character based on it, it seems like it would be gimicky and hackneyed. And the schoolgirl has been done to death. However, I would be down with a cyborg geisha killbot, it would be weird and creepy enough to make a good villain.
Stahlseele
It's supposed to be utter Trash. Tell me it did NOT accomplish that goal ^^
knasser
My jaw literally hung open during that. It was like seeing someone turn off the sky and realising that the world you think you know is false. How can such a thing as that movie be?

There are some things that you can see yourself doing in some sense, in the right circumstance. If you sat down and wrote, you could have come up with the script for Transformers II. If you learnt to paint well, you could do a portrait like the Mona Lisa. Such things are mainly the result of effort and / or practice. They are understandable. But some things you just realise could never arise from your brain. They are... from another type of person entirely.

And please, nobody tell me what Tengu Milk is. frown.gif
Stahlseele
Well, it IS from Japan . . .
But yeah, i think i shattered more than one Sanity with those links ^^
Heath Robinson
What is this, I don't even... I can't even a full sentence afterwards.


Larme,
It'd be retarded even in Anime.


Does anybody have a bottle of mind bleach?
Larme
QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Jul 1 2009, 05:23 PM) *
Larme,
It'd be retarded even in Anime.


Probably less so, however. It could be a surrealist mindfuck anime, and I'd be able to accept it. If I got that on a DVD in live action, however, I would burn the disc. I wouldn't want it to be on my continent.
Stahlseele
There's a reason why the Chans coined the Phrase:"The Answer is either Photoshop or Japan!"
ravensmuse
Okay. Was anyone else laughing at the Machine Girl trailer?

"Yakuza. Ninja. MACHINE GIRL." It's like someone is inside my mind shouting, "oh, you think that was cool? I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD!"

And Robogeisha. Holy fuck. I just about died when "Chainsaw" showed up. I had to shut it off after geisha harikari though - I'm not a huge fan of blood geysers.

Now, if you can't see how this is Shadowrun, honestly, I just don't know you. Machine Girl: ordinary school girl gets family killed by ruthless yakuza and loses an arm. Finds a backdoor streetdoc / cyberdoc and gets a compartment arm. Goes out and kicks ass.

Robogeisha: Oh what, you thought that Otomo models were strictly GitS inspired? Riggers are, at their heart, nerds. And if the computer geeks aren't doing it, then the yakuza probably would (considering that this is tame in the world of Japanese alternative porn).

Alternatively: that is one hell of a cyberzombie.

Larme: You ever watched Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagan? They create a robot that's as big as a universe that chucks other universes as weapons. This is small time.
Mr. Man
At first I thought it was just some kind of CollegeHumor-type production because it seemed to only be using Japanese words that the average westerner would know and the mostly weak jokes you get in something like that.

Then came the...other...stuff...

Still recovering from the mental whiplash.
Shinobi Killfist
That is so Awesul I want to see it.
Link
QUOTE (knasser @ Jul 1 2009, 08:46 PM) *
There are some things that you can see yourself doing in some sense, in the right circumstance. If you sat down and wrote, you could have come up with the script for Transformers II. If you learnt to paint well, you could do a portrait like the Mona Lisa.

Transformers II and the Mona Lisa on a par. I'm glad Michael Bay's not here to read this slander ;)
knasser
QUOTE (Link @ Jul 2 2009, 05:14 AM) *
Transformers II and the Mona Lisa on a par. I'm glad Michael Bay's not here to read this slander wink.gif


grinbig.gif I knew those two randomly picked examples were going to get me into trouble. Michael Bay's approach to movie-making is like trying to challenge high-level D&D characters by throwing ever increasing quantities of kobolds at them. In this contorted metaphor, the D&D characters are audience engagement and the kobolds are cars exploding. Other DM's would throw in a beholder (which represents subtlety) or a band of death knights (representing character depth). Perhaps even an element of romance (axe-wielding Minotaur). In short, other directors use a variety of elements to engage the audience. But Michael Bay just cranks up the kobolds until eventually, through sheer unbelievable quantity, he knocks a few hitpoints off you. Not that the result is usually a very good movie (Transformers I is the only film of his I've even been able to bear and even that didn't stand up to a second viewing). You try your best to ignore the low-key racism, the gung-ho patriotism and the characters so shallow you couldn't drown a kitten in them, and just watch robots fighting as long as you can make the novelty last.

I was just casting about for examples of work that we could all see ourselves doing in the right circumstances. Michaal Bay was an obvious one: There's nothing special about the script that any of us GM's couldn't come up with if we actually took the time to sit down and right dialogue. An example from the art world was harder as most of the big name painters are actually, well, very innovative. The first couple that came to mind - Munch and Van Gogh - aren't good examples of what I mean, they both had unique styles. Da Vinci was a brilliant painter and perhaps in his day was very innovative, but we look at his paintings and see mainly technical skill, I think. And that is something we can relate to. We understand that with a lot of study and practice, we also would be highly skilled artists capable of Renaissance style paintings (I do mean *a lot* of study and practice). Whereas Munch (for example), is not a case of practice or effort, but of a genuinely different take on things that we might not find came easily to us. And as to Robogeisha... well, no amount of practice, effort or reflection would ever lead many of us to produce something like that.

Well most of us, anyway. Maybe hyzmarca could. Though it would probably have a magically active cyber-dolphin sexually assaulting the geisha as well. wink.gif

K.
Matsci
I see your robogesia, and raise you Shadowrun, the Anime!
Stahlseele
Where do i remember that one from?
Heath Robinson
It's box art from the Japanese release of one of the Games. Not the Microsoft abomination, fortunately.
Naysayer
The Mega-CD game, "sanitized" to not include orks and trolls.
Think about that for a minute...
Stahlseele
Well, it FITS with the Wapanese Theme in the World of SR . .
hobgoblin
And here i thought SR was all fiction...

Also, not even government strength mind bleach can deal with the videos found in OP...

Still, highly imo, GITS:SAC is shadowrun the anime wink.gif
Blade
QUOTE (Naysayer @ Jul 2 2009, 12:14 PM) *
The Mega-CD game, "sanitized" to not include orks and trolls.
Think about that for a minute...


It does have orks and trolls, just not a lot of them since it's set in Japan.
You meet orks in an underground place and later on you face, IIRC, a runner team with a troll.
ravensmuse
One of these days I'm going to stumble across that Shadowrun animation I saw on Liquid Television. I swear to god, it's my unicorn. And no, it wasn't Aeon Flux smile.gif This was quite literally an ork, a rigger, and a sammie blasting their way through drones in a GitS inspired showdown.

Knasser: I'm sure that if I asked my girlfriend the art elitist, she'd probably say that andy Warhol was the Michael Bay of the art world biggrin.gif

...in fact, I think I'll ask her opinion when she gets up this morning smile.gif

And you have to admit that Michael Bay at least seems to be willing to take the piss out of himself; or am I the only person that caught his Comcast commercial? "And what does that make it cable guy?" "A-awesome?" "Awesome." *blows grill in the backyard up*
knasser
QUOTE (ravensmuse @ Jul 2 2009, 12:02 PM) *
One of these days I'm going to stumble across that Shadowrun animation I saw on Liquid Television. I swear to god, it's my unicorn. And no, it wasn't Aeon Flux smile.gif This was quite literally an ork, a rigger, and a sammie blasting their way through drones in a GitS inspired showdown.

Knasser: I'm sure that if I asked my girlfriend the art elitist, she'd probably say that andy Warhol was the Michael Bay of the art world biggrin.gif

...in fact, I think I'll ask her opinion when she gets up this morning smile.gif

And you have to admit that Michael Bay at least seems to be willing to take the piss out of himself; or am I the only person that caught his Comcast commercial? "And what does that make it cable guy?" "A-awesome?" "Awesome." *blows grill in the backyard up*


Ha! Very good catch on Andy Warhol. Though again I don't think I could replicate his work no matter how hard I tried... although in this case it would be self-respect that stopped me rather than lack of skill. I've only ever seen Michael Bay on screen once and that was his fifteen second cameo in Mystery Men where he had two lines. He was bad.
Naysayer
That commercial is neat, though. The camerawork is waaay too steady, though...
ravensmuse
QUOTE (knasser @ Jul 2 2009, 07:41 AM) *
Ha! Very good catch on Andy Warhol. Though again I don't think I could replicate his work no matter how hard I tried... although in this case it would be self-respect that stopped me rather than lack of skill. I've only ever seen Michael Bay on screen once and that was his fifteen second cameo in Mystery Men where he had two lines. He was bad.

Where was he in Mystery Men? I never knew that!
knasser
QUOTE (ravensmuse @ Jul 2 2009, 01:04 PM) *
Where was he in Mystery Men? I never knew that!


Okay, think back. Casanova Frankenstein is giving a banquet for all his gangs. The Furriers are there, the Disco Boys, those transvestite Japanese assassins (the Suzies?) and others. And as Frankenstein is about to lead them all to witness the death of Captain Amazing, the leader of the Frat Boys stands up and addresses him: "Dude, can we bring the brewskis?" Frankenstein (played by Geoffery Rush) gives him this exasperated parent look and, with great distaste replies: "Yes, you may absolutely <grimace> bring ze brewskies." The frat boys cheer!

That Frat Boy? That was Michael Bay.
Mirilion
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jul 1 2009, 07:57 PM) *
Proceed with Caution:


This... this... I don't know what to say.
Awsome doesn't begin to cover it.
Also FRIED SHRIMP is my new battlecry.
Stahlseele
I copied Richard. FOR PONY!
But Fried Shrimp! is a close 2nd ^^
ravensmuse
QUOTE (knasser @ Jul 2 2009, 07:42 AM) *
Okay, think back. Casanova Frankenstein is giving a banquet for all his gangs. The Furriers are there, the Disco Boys, those transvestite Japanese assassins (the Suzies?) and others. And as Frankenstein is about to lead them all to witness the death of Captain Amazing, the leader of the Frat Boys stands up and addresses him: "Dude, can we bring the brewskis?" Frankenstein (played by Geoffery Rush) gives him this exasperated parent look and, with great distaste replies: "Yes, you may absolutely <grimace> bring ze brewskies." The frat boys cheer!

That Frat Boy? That was Michael Bay.

That is undeniably amazing. I will have to watch that movie yet again (it is one of the best movies ever, bar none).

My girlfriend's answer by the way? Salvatore Dali. But she said that Andy Warhol would have been her second choice.
knasser
QUOTE (ravensmuse @ Jul 2 2009, 02:15 PM) *
That is undeniably amazing. I will have to watch that movie yet again (it is one of the best movies ever, bar none).

My girlfriend's answer by the way? Salvatore Dali. But she said that Andy Warhol would have been her second choice.


Heh! She might have something there. I really liked Dali when I was a teenager. Thought it was very creative. Nowadays, I find his work incredibly dull. It has no depth or emotional content and no great variety really, either. Just the same technique in different settings. Dali, the Michael Bay of the art world. I think your girlfriend knows her stuff. I don't know who Spielberg would be, but it would have to be someone technically competent yet crushingly dull and harmless. Constable, perhaps? Kubrick would have to be Turner - obsessively precise, brilliant and rich in subject. Damien Hirst would be Roland Emmerich and Tracey Emin - Uwe Boll. Edvard Munch would be Tomas Alfredson (who did "Let the Right One In" - Don't watch the trailer, just watch the film without knowing much about it. Much fun).

Anyway, I seem to be off-topic. Which just this once, is probably a blessing. wink.gif

K.
ravensmuse
Yeah, she went to DAAP in Cincinnati. She's very proud of that fact.

But again, tangents (I'll have to email her your questions and see who she says smile.gif)
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