Hey, I've passed through there, even stayed overnight, a few times in the last couple of years. They've done some good work to clean the place up.

Some parts even look like Earth.

I lived there for 25-years. The environment is cleaned up. The city, the people, the emotions... The things that make a city alive and good, they're almost all Toxic.

It means that I'm getting old and confusing the start and end of a book. The 4.01D BBB did have a Table of Contents, but the index was missing

...ahh, good, Fatum was able to get that info.

Actually the Balkan situation had little connection with Poland (except in my old campaign). You might be confusing the region with the Baltic States: Latvia Estonia, Lithuania. The Balkan states are Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia Bosnia-Herzegovina, Dalmatia, Montenegro, Kosovo, Albania, Romania, Bulgaria and the Sarajevo Enclave.

Unfortunately as it was with SoE, there is still pretty much nothing available on the Balkans save for the writeup of the Sarajevo Enclave in Feral Cities. I had considered contributing a section on the region to the alt.war project, however I am no where near as up to date as I should be with the Shadowrun world and political scene in the post Crash 2.0 era since I only played/GMd 4th edition for about six months after it came out before going back to 3rd.

I guess we are on the same side.

I'd visit Glow-City a hundred times over lagos, to be honest. Chicago may look more devastated (Nukes do that), but Lagos is the SR version of modern day Liberia. It's where humanity vanished. There may be humans living there, but civilization, you'll find none. Sure, they have technology, but that's not the same as civilization.

Let's just pretend the 4.01D book never existed, hardly a loss

I don't see what the fuss with Chicago is about now, btw. Sure it has some leftover bug spirits; then, scavengers, ferals and wild animals. But what is there that you haven't seen in the Barrens?

Ghoul and Free Spirit Genocide?

Well, that one's over.

Haven't looked at the Astral Plane, have you? Stuff like that has a very lasting effect...

Sites of mass murder attract all sorts of astral unpleasantness, a fairly recent mass killing of astrally active beings (using astrally active beings) could be even worse. The only astral strangeness in Chicago mentioned by canon sources is connected to the nuke, though...but just as an idea to make the place even less pleasant

I'd hate to see the site of the warehouses in Seattle where the Metahumans were locked up and then burned...

DNA/DOA uses one of those. Except, I don't exactly remember if they deal with Astral Pollution. Its a 1ed adventure.
The hacker/mage there is cool, if deffinitely underpowered. The best example of a character made for fluff without any chance for min/max.
The Salish samurai girl is hot, if you ask me.

Got a thing for big 80's hair, do you?

Pardon my asking, but where in the heck did you find this? (Or is it a personal write-up for one of your own campaigns?) Dug through as much stuff as could be found, and still found next to nothing about Poland since Shadows of Europe. (Or Romania, for that matter.) There's occasionally a tidbit or two on Shadowhelix, but it's most useful when you need a cheap laugh- the bargled output generated by machine translators is hilarious. (One of them just went ahead and translated "Hapsburg" as "Having-castle" once. Might have blown beer out my nose.)

Anyway, if you've found any decent stuff I might have missed on Poland and the countries briefly mentioned under "The Rest of Europe" in SoE, or have anything of your own that you don't mind sharing, I would love to see it. Planning to compile a write-up of my own and all forms of assistance are welcome. To avoid troubling the Moderators and making a nuisance of myself, I'm moving the cut portions of this post to a new one in Community Projects: http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=34526

Thanks.

Didn't one of the old sourcebooks refer to 6th world Los Angeles as serious hellhole?

Haven't heard much of it lately. The focus moved north for quite a while.

El Infierno (East LA) is definitely a hellhole, yes.

The other parts of LA is a hellhole if you're not into the Corporate Culture thing. For John Q. Wageslave, it's great! Like living in a Reality 'Trid show, because, well, YOU ARE!

For SINless, it's hell.

Double-posted to show just how much I think Reality TV is a special layer of Hell, just under the Special Part of Hell for child molesters and people who talk in movies.

But I think it is still one level above those parents that don't control their kids in movies.

According to Feral Cities, Chicago and Lagos are among the absolute worst. After reading Feral Cities, I'd have to say Lagos.

Amen Brotha!

Yo KK, if you're still around, I'm compiling data on Sarajevo 2072.. Even if it's just stuff you've wrote or researched yourself, I'd like to see it.

Australia. Pre awakening everything was trying to kill you. Now days...

Oh, and it's home of the drop bear.

Ooooooooooooo, Narcothread!

We just found out how Montreal is a touch of a Hellhole.

Not for being a hellhole, but I'm jealous Montréal got a book!

Dunno how I missed this.
It's in System Failure, p.113.

You're not the only one.