I love shot guns, there is no getting away form it! The only problem is which one..... so many to chose from!

I have always gone for the Remington 990, I don't know why but I just like the sound of it. But the time has come to get A few more ..... being a weapon specialist you can't have enough (shot guns or otherwise).

The only problem is I can't choose, I am a combat monster I like to be in the thick of the action with the gun set on choke 3/4 for maximum damage. As you all know about the best, when it comes to guns etc. I thought I would throw it out and see what comes back!


torz x

The Franchi SPAS-22 is prety solid. Up to 4 in concealability, 10S and burstfire capability. It's also the only shotgun (i think) that comes with any rc, it's only one and it's from a folding stock, but still.
And it has an integral SL-2, a very solid shotgun if you ask me.

The SPAS-22 is basically the best shotgun in the game, and one of the best weapons in the game. It's solidly usefulw ith slugs and a devastastingly broken hand of god with a smartlink and choke. But since shotguns are egregiously fucked up in an already notoriously broken set of rules, they tend to not get so much attention here.

Gotta go with the Franchi also.

Echo the Spaz.

But if you're a Troll, the Enfield or the Defience makes a GREAT sidearm once you saw the stock off.

Fold the stock and a SPAS-22 is the size of a Predator.

Lessee now... For 2,350 you can get a SPAS-22 with cyber-choke, a rangefinder, a foregrip and a rating 4 Gas Vent. Whenever your target is at a range greater than 24 meters, up to 100 meters, you can fire 2 3-round bursts with no recoil and a total TN modifier from Smartlink + Rangefinder + Choke of -14, or -15 beyond 50 meters. If your TN before those modifiers is less than 16 or 17, you can simply adjust the choke (with a Free Action) so that you get the TN of 2 with the highest possible Power. Combine with Shotgun/SPAS-22-5/7 + Improved Ability: Shotgun-5 for a rocking good time!

Since it's fed from an internal magazine, though, it's probably a good idea to keep 2 with you at all times -- one loaded with shot, one with EX-Ex or APDS round if you can score them. Just in case the GM gets fed up with you instantly annihilating everything and either sends huge cybertrolls at you or starts to interpret the choke rules so that every, table, chair, pile of stationary, trash bin, small rock etc counts as a separate target and thus adds +1 DamRes dice to everyone behind it.

The SPAS is the only real shotgun.

~J

Two Simples. One Simple and a Free if you've got a smartlink.

~J

2 Frees, if you have Multitasking and Nimble Fingers.

You shoot your last round with a Simple. You reload on your turn. You continue shooting with your remaining Simple.

Saiga 12K. Just as good as the Franchi but with the extra advantage of being clip fed so you can change ammunition a lot faster. That and I just find it so much more aesthetically pleasing than the Franchi. Combine a SL2, FA mode and Ray's Burst Control Edge and things are not pretty.

The Saiga 12K sucks because then you have to use Raygun's sensible choke rules, and then you don't get to be the right hand of god.

Ew… ugly. SPAS-12 and -15 are far superior.

~J

Guess it's a taste thing - you obviously have none. I could see a possible argument for the 12, but the 15's just way to blocky for my liking.

I'm a fan of the 12s, even though they're a little played out thanks to the Matrix. 15s will never have a place in my heart. The Saiga 12K, on the other hand, has a certain charm, and will always have a deep and special place in my heart thanks to Innocence.

What about the USAS-12?

What can I say? I'm an SG1 fan.

Yeah, what is that curved bit about anyway?

You don't like Stargate? Heretic!

Bourgeois cad.

I like the USAS-12 as well. Auto-shotgun goodness.

Though I only mildly enjoy SG-1.


-karma

i need to build an SR version of the MAG-7. it is the gun that makes god weep.

I still have to go for the Remington Roomsweeper. It's not as powerful, but much more concealable and easier to tote along. It's a wizard's best friend.

The Remington Streetsweeper's got character. And gives any PC an excuse to walk around with their pockets full of all sorts of unpleasantness. A street mage in a game of mine had fun with blasts of scrap metal, screws, and glass.

Which isn't to say it's my favorite, but I hate to just toss another body onto the Spas bandwagon, so I had to think of something else to say.

hah. nice, Arethusa.

i have to give the Street Sweeper a huzzah, at least, if not an actual vote. my entire gang of trog mages couldn't ante up as much asswhoopin' as one of those guns, during their recent clash with shedim.

I don't have the books here and haven't bought the PDF's just yet, but can shotguns even mount muzzle-based accessories like gas-vent systems?

be fair. Billy Ray Cyrus is more terrifying by far.

Maybe he was an Insect Spirit?

Rack-um-up.

Im still a big fan of the 990.

But having fired both a SbS and an over-under, I rather like the over-under better for a breech loader.

the stigma of The Song Which Cannot And Must Not Be Named hangs over him--or me--like a cloud. a cloud of death, which is itself composed of other, smaller, more horrible death-clouds.

Go Arethusa! Solving everyone's shotgun problems before they even knew they had them.

lol

Enfield with a 50 round drum, Gas Vent IV, Shock Pad, and Customized Grip... integral SL2 with a top mounted Rangefinder and a grenade linked, an an under-barrel Ares Antioch grenade launcher. Both loaded with the deadliest ammo you can find.

If you're hauling that, why not just go all the way and use a LMG?

Hell when you factor in relative weight and cost a LMG with a gyro-mount becomes a much better investment for the vast majority of situations. When you start getting into that level you might as well add some range onto the package because you have a big sign saying "Call in the High Threat Response team to shoot me right now"