Synner
Sep 1 2005, 01:24 PM
For those who haven't yet caught the
news (or the thread in the SR4 subforum): the
System Failure pdf is now available through DriveThruRPG. Welcome to the end of the world.
Ancient History
Sep 1 2005, 01:55 PM
QUOTE (Synner) |
Welcome to the end of the world. |
Bring your most fashionable firearm accessory. It's going to be a blast.
blakkie
Sep 1 2005, 02:08 PM
The celebrations will conclude with a good ol' fashion Deck burning party. Some to be roasted from the inside out.
Birdy
Sep 1 2005, 03:11 PM
How long for the non-electronic thing?
Birdy
Supercilious
Sep 1 2005, 04:05 PM
Oh man, time to spend more creditcard money.
Fortune
Sep 1 2005, 04:33 PM
QUOTE (Birdy) |
How long for the non-electronic thing? |
Soon™!
Lindt
Sep 1 2005, 05:04 PM
*drool*
Birdy
Sep 1 2005, 05:15 PM
QUOTE (Fortune @ Sep 1 2005, 04:33 PM) |
QUOTE (Birdy @ Sep 2 2005, 01:11 AM) | How long for the non-electronic thing? |
Soon™! |
Can we get a Howitzer-Smilie as a method of showing our displeasure. Or maybe a torturer smilie
Shadow
Sep 1 2005, 05:37 PM
Well it is easier for me to read a module in PDF than a rule book, so I bought it!
Look for a run to start in welcome!
Edit:
Maybe not, I thought it was an adventure.... its a sourcebook?
Lindt
Sep 1 2005, 05:55 PM
It was supposed to be both. Once apon a time, there was going to be a seperate mission book and data book, but that was all compressed down to one book.
Bandwidthoracle
Sep 1 2005, 06:15 PM
Is System failure a SR3 book or an SR4 book?
it's...both i think, kinda. Its the ending to the SR2 world, leading into and through the events of the crash of matrix 1.0.
Shadow
Sep 1 2005, 06:23 PM
I am about a 3rd of the way through it and there are no rules. But they do mention several times that it is a SR3 sb.
So far it's pretty scattered and hard to follow. Some interesting short stories. It's nice to see MLB is back. All the hackneyed future sports that people kept coming up with where pretty lame.
Fox1
Sep 1 2005, 06:28 PM
QUOTE (Lindt) |
It was supposed to be both. Once apon a time, there was going to be a seperate mission book and data book, but that was all compressed down to one book. |
So is it going to be basically a sourcebook with ideas for adventures but no real detail, sort of like the Shutdown book?
Pity. I'll still get it however.
I love the SR adventures. But they don't seem to be making many of them anymore.
Synner
Sep 1 2005, 06:35 PM
System Failure is a mix of event sourcebook (similar to YotC) and track campaign book (sort of like MobWar and Blood in the Boardroom).
Summary of the Introduction:
Forewarnings - Shadowland posts and fiction pieces setting the scene for System Failure and grounding later material. This is followed by relevant game information.
Critical Error - Shadowland posts and fiction pieces giving a real-time patchwork picture of the chaos surrounding the Crash as it unfolds on November 1-2 2064. This is followed by a general and a detailed timeline of events covering the buildup and starting in 2063 - this is probably where Shadow's at. It is intentionally confusing - much becomes clear when you read the following sections though.
Novatech Goes Public - The "What's really going on" section begins with the first campaign/adventure track, which describes the build up and intrigue surrounding the Novatech IPO. This contains all the relevant behind the scenes information of what's going on providing for numerous potential hooks and also features 2 easily adaptable "adventure frameworks" (MobWar-style for those familiar with the track campaign format) and numerous adventure seeds.
Singularity - The second campaign adventure track describes Deus' and his opponents plans and how these relate to ongoing tracks such as the IPO. As the preceding chapter Singularity includes all the relevant background material and 3 "adventure frameworks" and numerous adventure seeds.
Fall of Night - The final campaign/adventure track describes the unlikely alliance between Winternight and Ex Pacis, their ultimate goals and their respective master plans. Events in all three tracks are closely related and interact. Like the previous two tracks this one too includes 3 full adventure frameworks and several adventures seeds.
Crash 2.0 - Fiction and Game Info describing the ace up Winternight's sleave - Operation Mjolnir and its effects on the Sixth World.
Is Anybody Out There?- Fiction and shadowland posts detailing the disastrous immediate aftermath of System Failure and its effects on everyone from lowly guttertrash runners to megacorporate CEOs.
Last Man Standing and Down the Rabbit Hole - Fiction pieces containing surprises which I'm not going to spoil here, followed by relevant Game Information.
Aftershocks - Describes the subsequent fallout of System Failure combining fiction and shadowland posts. It is divided into themed subsections (with material covering Corporate Fallout, the UCAS coup, the Tsimshian debacle, the fate of Ibn Eisa and the Polish Civil War) followed by relevant Game Information.
Matrix 2.0 - Follows the first steps in reconstructing the global Matrix and some of the most unexpected fallout of System Failure (and is littered with interesting hints). It also leads into the tech advances in SR4.
Epilogue - Fiction piece wraps events.
Besides adventure ideas most of the Game Information sections include suggestions on how to incorporate events directly and indirectly into your campaign. Even if your team isn't involved in any of the myriad adventure possibilities these events offer there's no way they should get through the Winter of 64 unscathed.
Velocity
Sep 1 2005, 06:42 PM
Thanks for the summary.
Shadow
Sep 1 2005, 09:27 PM
I just finished skimming it and I have to say I think I got my moneys worth.
$18US for 130 pages of fiction. A lot of it very good, some very interesting stories and reveals. There are even several adventure outlines that span a few days of the events.
Poor poor Dankwalther
It doesn't span the time till 2070, just till the middle of 2066. A lot of it is from NT's perspective which is cool cause they are my fav Mega (I was a little worried in the beginning). It has a MASSIVE conspiracy which has spanned 10 or so books come to a close, not without igniting new ones though.
Unfortunately I don't see how much of this is going to be relevant in 2070? I mean I don't have links in my games back to Bug City or anything like that. Playing retro games during the crash could be cool, but everyone knows how they pan out.
There are some familiar faces in the shadow community in there (AH, Clock, and Synner to name a few) and overall I really like the book. A little bummed that I am not in it
The PDF itself is well done (kudos Adam) and is easily searchable, quotable etc. Skimming it was easier than if I had the book with me and it prints out real clean. Again, overall I am very happy with the book. Now if I could just get my hardcopy of the SR4 rules (hopefully after they fix the horrendous editing problem spotted int eh LE and PDF) I could start looking at it.
JongWK
Sep 1 2005, 09:51 PM
Glad you liked the book.
QUOTE |
Poor poor Dankwalther |
Hey, if you want to play big, be prepared to lose big... though I think AH said it best in the book.

QUOTE |
Unfortunately I don't see how much of this is going to be relevant in 2070? I mean I don't have links in my games back to Bug City or anything like that. Playing retro games during the crash could be cool, but everyone knows how they pan out. |
Many corps (like Shiawase, Aztech or Genesis) benefit or suffer from the events, even if they aren't the main players in the story. That's just off the top of my head.
Don't forget Colloton, by the way. Don't you love when a plan succeeds?

QUOTE |
There are some familiar faces in the shadow community in there (AH, Clock, and Synner to name a few) and overall I really like the book. A little bummed that I am not in it |
Hey, give some camera time to others! You were on SotA64.
Shadow
Sep 1 2005, 10:03 PM
I was!
I didn't know, gotta go check it out now!
SL James
Sep 1 2005, 10:36 PM
QUOTE (JongWK) |
Don't forget Colloton, by the way. Don't you love when a plan succeeds? |
Indeed.
Trax
Sep 1 2005, 10:45 PM
Guess i'll have to post more often before I get into an SR book.
Halabis
Sep 2 2005, 01:07 AM
[ Spoiler ]
Just to clarrify, Collton was behind the coup and actualy assasinated her way into power, correct? The reading was a bit unclear, but it seemed to be indicating such.
fistandantilus4.0
Sep 3 2005, 06:11 AM
so..... when do we start the contest for who's screen names gets to be injected into the shadowtalk? After all, there's plenty of one-time posters out there.
Maybe you should set it up on a 'per donation basis *wink wink*'. Just a thought
Snow_Fox
Sep 3 2005, 04:09 PM
QUOTE (Synner) |
For those who haven't yet caught the news (or the thread in the SR4 subforum): the System Failure pdf is now available through DriveThruRPG. Welcome to the end of the world. |
so is this where the Anti-deluvians rise up from their sleep and try to destroy their childer?
I've got my .357 S&W and a case of Sam Adams. Lets get the party started.
Thanks for the heads up Synner.
Snow_Fox
Sep 3 2005, 04:12 PM
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0 @ Sep 3 2005, 01:11 AM) |
so..... when do we start the contest for who's screen names gets to be injected into the shadowtalk? After all, there's plenty of one-time posters out there.
Maybe you should set it up on a 'per donation basis *wink wink*'. Just a thought |
I take it as a great compliment that Synner included me a couple of times in earlier SB. sigh, but my name isn't really useful for inserts. I mean "Snow Fox" in India? It just doesn't sound right.
Elve
Sep 3 2005, 04:23 PM
<dreaming>Hmm what would my name fit it...</dreaming>
Grinder
Sep 3 2005, 04:25 PM
Every entry where elves are dealt with? Just a wild idea
Snow_Fox
Sep 3 2005, 04:30 PM
Or dyslectic orcs.
Elve
Sep 3 2005, 04:31 PM
Should I have used my other name? Orci...
Grinder
Sep 4 2005, 12:06 PM
Orci? Sounds..uhm... pink.
Snow_Fox
Sep 4 2005, 03:15 PM
Or a cute little orc child. "Aw look at the cute little orci."
SL James
Sep 6 2005, 08:57 AM
Interesting book.
I love the story of James Mancuso.
[ Spoiler ]
But I don't understand why Huang is in prison instead of executed.
I'm also not firmly convinced Alice is "dead".
Oh, and so, um... Obsidismen are back and searching for life rocks, eh?
Supercilious
Sep 6 2005, 10:03 AM
Lol, James is a funny guy.
Oracle
Sep 6 2005, 10:11 AM
QUOTE (SL James) |
[ Spoiler ] [...]Obsidismen are back and searching for life rocks, eh? |
Uhmm...are they really?? Where did you get that from??
what else would you call a half-ton man made of rock who sponsors a secret dig in the Andes?
DocMortand
Sep 6 2005, 10:54 AM
QUOTE (mfb) |
what else would you call a half-ton man made of rock who sponsors a secret dig in the Andes? |
Whatever he wants to be called, really. I know *I* wouldn't dare name him anything it didn't like...
Oracle
Sep 6 2005, 11:07 AM
Let me ask in a different way: Where in the book is that? I don't remember reading that...
Synner
Sep 6 2005, 12:21 PM
It appears in the Yamatetsu update, however the subject is a changeling (ie. meaning he was human prior to 2061 not a piece of stone). Make of that what you will.
kryton
Sep 6 2005, 01:30 PM
Any mention of Renny or Dr. Haberstam? I hear they go into the "Captain Chaos" a bit? How would you rate the book overall?
SL James
Sep 6 2005, 06:55 PM
yes
Fortune
Sep 6 2005, 08:10 PM
A little more detail wouldn't kill you. Just put it in a spoiler.
SL James
Sep 6 2005, 08:14 PM
[ Spoiler ]
There's a reference to a Dr. Shalbermat and "Willis" (don't know who that is) in Matrix 2.0. The doctor (yeah, that's a real tough one to crack after seeing the name referenced in the Mitsuhama section of Corporate Fallout) is apparently doing research on people who, in Fourth Edition, are known as Technomancers.
Speaking of MCT, the reference is to their new very lifelike robots.
I specifically wanted this book for Tree of Liberty, even though I knew it was only a few pages. Despite my pleasure at the ultimate outcome, it was weak and it didn't help that plans I specifically put into action as soon as I heard about it were nerfed when someone reminded me who (or rather, what) the VP's boyfriend is.
The fate of the Secretary of Agriculture is also the second most amusing thing I read after James Mancuso's good fortune (Which given the sum total reminds me of the saying, "Be careful what you wish you; you just may get it")
Lady Door
Sep 7 2005, 12:04 AM
What's with all the teasers and cryptic woohaa?!?! What are you, an elf?!
SL James
Sep 7 2005, 12:21 AM
No, but I don't believe in giving away things for free, either.
hahnsoo
Sep 7 2005, 01:17 AM
I think SL James' speculation on a specific thing is wishful thinking:
[ Spoiler ]
The book specifically states that Alice ceases to be:"Her last conscious thought—before blackness closed around her and everything she was ceased to be—was one of insane amusement". She's dead, Jim.
I wouldn't put it past the writers to resurrect her in some Deus Ex Machina (HA!) but the story explicitly states that she ceased to be.
Also, as far as Yamatetsu:
[ Spoiler ]
I don't think that was an obsidiman reference. It could just as well be the fact that Hideo Yoshida changed into a Troll during SURGE with extra-lumpy dermal armor.
SL James
Sep 7 2005, 01:28 AM
Yeah... Right.
Anyway, given how poorly written that chapter was, I think I can interpret it to be her perception, as opposed to reality, without much trouble.
hahnsoo
Sep 7 2005, 01:36 AM
QUOTE (SL James) |
Yeah... Right.
Anyway, given how poorly written that chapter was, I think I can interpret it to be her perception, as opposed to reality, without much trouble. |
Don't you think that if the devs DIDN'T want her to be dead, they would have stepped in and exerted editorial control? Like they've done on occasions when dealing with freelancer fiction? As far as canon is concerned, she's as dead as President Haeffner. *shrugs* Fitting, I think... maybe there is an afterlife for both of them.
Halabis
Sep 7 2005, 01:45 AM
Perhaps she ceased to be temporarily. The sentince leaves it openb that she might come back later. Her senses shut down, but that does not preclude them coming back on, especialy where computers are concerned. Maybe someone just turned her hardware off?
hahnsoo
Sep 7 2005, 01:56 AM
Well, buzz me when she comes back, and then we'll talk.
SL James
Sep 7 2005, 02:50 AM
Way to slip out of that conversation.
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