I think this outdates that by a fair chunk.

Clearly, I am well on the way to Hell and my soul is irredeemable. Might as well leave me alone, then. Wait...that's another one isn't it; wanting to be alone?

First off, I'm a "right winger", an athiest, and guilty of 27 things on that list. You all can use you imaginations on which ones.

Second, my Baptist, bible thumping, "left winger" grandmother (who hates me) would totally agree with everything on that list being "bad". Her response when she found out I had tattoos, "Well, at least it will be easier for the police to identify his body when it washes up." Yeah, thanks grandma, you bitch.

Third, I met Fred Phelps once, he was in Colorado Springs to protest at a Planned Parenthood clinic on west Cimmaron near Old Colorado City (he also does gay and military funerals). His group had reservations to stay at the hotel where I was working. I recognised the name and town on his reservation from a conversation I'd had with a military friend of mine concerning different "peace" groups harassing military funerals. I told the hotel's owner (a retired USMC sniper recon instructor) who Phelps was and that his reservation wasn't prepaid, he told me to cancel it and to tell Phelps when he and his retardo/lackeys showed up that we (the hotel) reserved the right to refuse service to anyone. Phelps wasn't happy. Later that day I went to a friends house across the street and around the corner (about 100 feet away and in full view of the whackos) from the clinic they were protesting. Phelps saw me. He started yelling in his bullhorn about how I was the unrepentant sinner who had refused them lodging and some of them started moving in my direction. At which point my friend (his house) came out his front door with a shotgun and stood on his porch while his wife called the cops. The protesters stopped at the curb and yelled BS at us until the cops showed up, unfortunately, they were still on public property and the cops couldn't do anything but stand around and make sure they behaved themselves for a while and eventually had to leave to do real police work. When I left, a few of the braver ones came up to me and started screaming in my face. One started poking me in the chest to punctuate his "points." I grabbed his fingers and used them as leverage to take him to the ground, breaking his index and middle fingers in the process. My friend used the threat of his shotgun to keep the others off of me while I held him down until the cops arrived. And, after almost arresting me, decided to arrest him instead. I pressed charges for Battery and testified in court, it was fun. All in all, I rather enjoyed that day. I hadn't had that much free entertainment in a long time.

And, for the record, every group has it's whackjobs, just look at the G20 protests, or Congress for that matter.

The question is, do all groups have their sensible, ethical moderates?

Sometimes I'm not sure those exist in ANY group...

I wouldn't count on it.

Absolutely genius

And Tachi, as prior service (Army Infantryman) I give you a hearty salute. Beer is on me if you ever make it up to Maine.

Tachi: an easy way to get them is to find out when and where they plan to set up... get a local buisness to set up a concession stand. Some cities and states have ordances that count such as a buisness in regards to distances, if it was there first...

Thanks, oh, and ahh, hooray for the good guys.


Thanks. I may have to keep that info in mind for sharing with some people I know the next time I'm in ColoSpgs. I'm always up for making life miserable for people like Phelps. You might almost call it a hobby of mine.

The group you're referring to is to "right wingers" as the radical New Black Panther leader (the one video taped standing on a street corner with a bullhorn, demanding that "to be free, brothahs gotta kill white people, gotta kill white babies!") is to "left wingers." Judging either political group by the completely radical, out there, insane, extremists does both the politically minded people you're talking about and yourself a disservice.

The Westboro Baptist Church group -- a group populated primarily by Phelps' family, and lawyers -- doesn't protest merely the funerals of homosexuals, you see. You're woefully behind the times with your half-legible indignation. They've taken, in the last several years, to protesting at the funerals of fallen servicemen and servicewomen, standing there at the grave of dead soldiers with their signs stating "God hates fags," and "God bless dead soldiers."

The thing to understand about the Westboro Baptist Church -- and please, do understand this -- is that they aren't really a church. They're a trick that Phelps is playing on the rest of the world, masquerading as a church. They're a cult, yes, and Phelps meanwhile gets all the benefits of being a cult leader; a sense of power, authority over others, to soak in charisma and influence and attention, yes, yes...but more importantly, look at their membership rosters, look at how many of them are lawyers, and look at the tactics they use. They are "shock and awe," in the classic sense. They are a group that exists -- almost like Paris Hilton -- solely to profit by drawing attention to themselves. By shocking and horrifying the American public, by saying obscene and preposterous things, by printing disgusting signs and having their children hold those signs, by spitting (proverbially) in the faces of the grieving families who've lost American servicemen...what are they out to do?

Do you really, really, think this lawyer-heavy group is out to spread the word of a loving God, by claiming that every dead soldier is God's retribution for America being too soft on homosexuals? Really? You buy that?

Or do you think maybe, just maybe, that this group is a scam? A shocking force, out to insult as many Americans as possible in as little time as possible, and then -- full of lawyers as they are -- ready and waiting to pounce? Because the truth is they're a cult of personality, yes, but they're also a group of sharks that are quick, quick, quick, to sue anyone and everyone they can for First Amendment breaches. Anyone that tries to silence them, anyone that tries to ban them from funerals, anyone that -- and watch the news for this, because it's just a matter of time -- anyone that confronts them physically over their insults and slander...these guys are going to smell blood in the water, and the Phelps family will retire in style over the checks they get.

By taking the Westboro Baptist Church at face value, just like by taking this obviously ridiculous OP at face value, and by attributing the stance of these farcical, ridiculous, things to "right wingers, DURP DURP DURP they're all like that," you say more about yourself than you do those who hold different political views than you.

Not a single real Conservative that I know would stand in the street outside a dead Marine's funeral with signs that say "God Killed Your Sons," "Pray For More Dead Soldiers," and "Thank God for 9/11." And I know more than my share of Conservatives and other "right wingers," trust me.

It should also be noted that the westbro cult doesn't just attack the funerals of gays and soldiers but any potentially high profile funeral. Just last year they where planing to head up here to Canada to spew their hate at the Funeral of man who was decapitated in a attack on a greyhound bus. Canadians where naturally outraged and planed a massive counter protest that scared the westbros off plus they could have been arrested for hate crimes.

And they are quick to cancel if it looks like they will get no good publicity... or the local laws put them in a bind legally

What if my kid dresses in rough leathers and fur, carries around a battleaxe, and wears a horned helm? Flys into a berserker rage at the slightest provocation?

Is he a Goth?



-karma

That's Old School Goth, Karma. It's soooo 4th century.

I still remember attending a Vampire: Dark Ages LARP.

Most of the players who showed up were regular Vampire game players. Black clothes, eyeliner, etc.

So they were kinda shocked and speechless when in response to some highbrow insult my character Celerity'd over, ripped out the guy's throat, and threw his body out the window into the daylight.

They stared at me, and I responded with, "WHAT? It's the 14th century, we're all running around in spiked armor with great big honking swords. You were expecting maybe witty repartee?"





-np

I think this list would actually encompass most people in general.



Real or not the list is funny. I think you'd have to look really hard to find someone who doesn't have at least 3 or 4 of these qualities.

Edit: Come to think of it, the sort of people who supposedly posted this would be guilty of some. They drink alcohol at communion, they request quiet time alone for prayer, show an interest in piercings/tattoos (Not in getting them, but they tend to be obsessed about them). They may also have a silver cross necklace or something similar (odd jewelry), and priests and nuns dress rather eccentrically. Oh, right, and most of them have kids, so they've expressed an interest in sex. I suppose the entire world is overrun with goths.

most of the churches around here use grape juice vs wine for the communion... due to the precepts of the church being anti-alcohol

No Catholic Church will turn down alcohol. If they aren't going to serve wine, they won't serve the blood at all.

Hehe, that just made me think....


'This is my blood, take of it and drink' anyone?

Now this is a little far from any right-wings I've met, and I'm surprise people are taking it seriously (or if it was, it was written by an old housewife who was just making crap up.) People who picket gay's funerals and sue the parents (as mentioned earlier) have gone so far in their zeal that they're actually going against the teachings of the bible themselves; while they don't have to condone homosexuality, condemnation or holier-than-thou attitudes is exactly what the Pharisees were doing. I'm not going to turn dumpshock into an internet sermon, but huh. I hate when people like that make Christians or Catholics look like that.

Where I live, most would believe it.

Sad to say it depends on the location.

As I said only one church actually uses wine for communion, because they forbid the congregation to drink spirits..

(hell they just got a bill passed where you can't drink in public... if you are in sight of the public roads even in your own back yard...)

I believe you. But I'll bet you dollars to donuts they aren't Roman Catholic.

Right there with you. My biggest problem with Christianity has been some self proclaimed Christians.

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