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SleepIncarnate
QUOTE (Karoline @ Sep 20 2010, 07:47 AM) *
P.S. Given that everyone is from the same company and same country, I'm presuming that we're all used to working with each other, right? Or have we simply not had to work together before?


Are we all from the same country? I got the impression the corp is big in Hong Kong and Europe, but they've got employees elsewhere too. Anywhere works for my character, I've got about 2 years of working for the corp after leaving DocWagon so could hve been anywhere in that time.
Karoline
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You have recently be promoted and transferred to Settle to work in the corps new lab and regional office covering the whole of North America in a recent spree of expantion from europe with simal prohects in Hong Kong and Tokyo. Your corp has a strong focus on implant-tech and nano-tech

Assuming simal prohects = similar projects, and projects means 'transfer to Seattle', then yeah, guess it could be from any of those three locations.

Edit: Oh, and I see no reason that a TM would need image link. They slave the commlink to their bio node, and have the commlink stream the tacnet info to their bio node, and their bionode allows them to view AR naturally, so they could see the tacnet info on their natural AR.
SleepIncarnate
Cool, so the only reason they'd need an image link is for smartlink (until they get a smartlink CF).
Karoline
QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 20 2010, 11:20 AM) *
Cool, so the only reason they'd need an image link is for smartlink (until they get a smartlink CF).

Nah, can do the same thing with their smartlink as with tacnet. Main reason to get a smartlink CF is to be able to go entirely without a commlink.
SleepIncarnate
Don't think of it as having a useless addition to my goggles and ontacts, think of it as adding a channel to the tacnet nyahnyah.gif
Karoline
Well, you could, interestingly, get smartlink without image link on your goggle by having smartlink to pull in all the visual info needed, in conjunction with the info from the gun, throw all that info into the commlink, then have the commlink spit the results back out to your bionode, which puts it directly on your eyeballs.
SleepIncarnate
I'll look into it when I get back from work, gotta rearrange my CF's and progs anyways.
Karoline
QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 20 2010, 07:21 PM) *
I'll look into it when I get back from work, gotta rearrange my CF's and progs anyways.

Just remember, you're not going to be able to use any of your programs on a hack.

Also, depending on how you read one part of the rules, TMs can't use their computer based skills with a commlink.
Karoline
Whew, bought a bunch of extra drones, a pair of vehicles, and some more software, and I'm up to 941707 nuyen spent nyahnyah.gif
Karoline
Whee!

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SleepIncarnate
QUOTE (Karoline @ Sep 20 2010, 08:04 PM) *
Also, depending on how you read one part of the rules, TMs can't use their computer based skills with a commlink.


I don't know how people keep reading it that way.

QUOTE (SR4A P.239)
The way technomancers use these skills, however, is vastly different from the way non-technomancers use them. Technomancers exercise these skills through mental gymnastics and an intuitive feel for the functioning of the machine world; they do not learn to use electronics so much as they learn to make devices and software do what they want.


Emphasis all mine. In other words, they don't use them the same way as a mundane, but they can still make the devices do what they want (i.e. run programs, store data, make calls, etc).
Karoline
QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 21 2010, 06:14 AM) *
Emphasis all mine. In other words, they don't use them the same way as a mundane, but they can still make the devices do what they want (i.e. run programs, store data, make calls, etc).

I've read that 'make devices and software do what they want' part as talking about 'hack devices and software to do what they want' as opposed to 'when using a commlink, they just look at it special and it operates properly.'

You have to remember that the whole of the matrix is made up of devices and software, so I've taken it more that their CFs and persona interact in this special way with them, as opposed to their physical selves interact with a physical commlink in a special way.

For example:
TM's living persona hacks into a system and 'wills' (uses CFs) it to show a list of important files. <- Yeah, that's what TMs are all about.
TM is holding a commlink, and instead of clicking 'file-> open' to open the file, they 'will' (in the physical world) the commlink to open the file. <- This seems a little more questionable. TMs have amazing ability on the matrix. They have little to no special ability in the physical world without echos, and even those are more personal effects than effects on other things.

Like I said, depends on how you read it.
TommyTwoToes
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Whee!

Much more fight heavy than my guy, now I am wondering if I had the right idea...
Karoline
QUOTE (TommyTwoToes @ Sep 21 2010, 12:50 PM) *
Much more fight heavy than my guy, now I am wondering if I had the right idea...

I went kind of crazy since we are supposed to be black-ops. I could tone it back if we're looking for a somewhat lower power game.

Edit: Also, yeah, I did focus much more on the combat/infiltration side of things. I'd had more social stuff originally, but I ended up shifting it over. 8 social dice with her empathy software isn't bad, though it could certainly improve. Then again, she isn't the face.
TommyTwoToes
QUOTE (Karoline @ Sep 21 2010, 01:09 PM) *
I went kind of crazy since we are supposed to be black-ops. I could tone it back if we're looking for a somewhat lower power game.

Edit: Also, yeah, I did focus much more on the combat/infiltration side of things. I'd had more social stuff originally, but I ended up shifting it over. 8 social dice with her empathy software isn't bad, though it could certainly improve. Then again, she isn't the face.

Really, for Black Ops, isn't your Ruger SWH the face?
Traul
I thought that we did not gain any points for SINner and Records on file, as it is part of the setting.

EDIT:

I have just checked: it was part of the draft rules in the old thread, but it is not in the final cut that was copied to this thread. Dumori, did you remove it on purpose or just forget to copy it?
Karoline
QUOTE (TommyTwoToes @ Sep 21 2010, 01:42 PM) *
Really, for Black Ops, isn't your Ruger SWH the face?

Right, which is not me biggrin.gif
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I have just checked: it was part of the draft rules in the old thread, but it is not in the final cut that was copied to this thread. Dumori, did you remove it on purpose or just forget to copy it?

Oh, didn't read the other thread. I don't mind adjusting my qualities.
SleepIncarnate
Yeah, I missed that too. I can get rid of SINner and up my media junkie a bit...... as a TM being a media junkie is pretty much expected, especially for an infomancer (we like to call it 'looking at infornography', not research). Still gotta look at my progs and CF's, keep the ones I need while VR as CF's and let the others be progs. If I honestly need browse while hacking, I an always use a data sprite (the only sprite that EVERY stream has).

Speaking of which, are you allowing custom made streams, dumori? I was thinking a cross between technoshaman and info savant (basically a technoshaman that replaces crack or sleuth sprite with code sprite, the two streams share 3 of the same sprites).
SleepIncarnate
Also, just a look at what we have going as a team, based on suggestions. First, the people actively posting

Sleep - TM(Hacker/Intel)/Face
Karoline - Sniper/Infil
Traul - some kinda mage
Tommy - Infil guy

Chance, Atomic, and Talavera have all been quiet, the most recent post being from the 2nd. So we have somewhere from 4 to 7 people.

Chance - Hacker or Sam (?)
Atomic - TM of some sort
Talavera - rigger/driver

So for sure we have combat, tech, magic, infiltration, and face covered. We MAY have a rigger/driver, and we may have redundancy in tech and/or combat. Pretty good all around team.
Dumori
QUOTE (Traul @ Sep 21 2010, 08:07 PM) *
I thought that we did not gain any points for SINner and Records on file, as it is part of the setting.

EDIT:

I have just checked: it was part of the draft rules in the old thread, but it is not in the final cut that was copied to this thread. Dumori, did you remove it on purpose or just forget to copy it?

I forgot to copy over though with all the qualities built in to the game world you get no BPs nor do the cost you any. I'll recheack my notes but the orginal list should be SINner, Records on file and slightly adjusted rating two trust fund.

As I've said you can make the lifelstlye with the RC rules as-long as it is at least high you will be earning more than 1k a month so you can put more than 20 LP in to a lifestlye at very worse you might have to roll a rent dice ever now and then as well as have less to wards total gear. Also I don't mind you guys pooling for a lifestyle each putting 10-11k in to it.

I'm letting TMs use programs as I always do CFs are still better. I'm not to sure about a new stream seeing as it one initiation to get a new sprite. I'll ponder it a bit more.

As for the other I'll send some PMs out to see if they are still wanting to play.
Karoline
Alright, I'll play with my qualities a bit.
SleepIncarnate
Tweaking mine too While I'm at it, what's your stance on group contacts, virtual contacts, and TM networks? Or the Resonance Bond quality?

I just thought of a fun, interesting, and makes sense negative quality on there, at least for the tech characters. Mild Allergy, Sunlight (10 BP), because we spend so much time indoors in dark cave like rooms that we're not used to the natural light of the sun, though in Seattle it'd prolly be uncommon and only be a 5 BP quality nyahnyah.gif
SleepIncarnate
Are Atomic, Chance, and/or Talavera still with us? They haven't posted since the 2nd, and I'd like to have an idea as to their characters (especially Atomic's TM) so I know what to run with. I'd hate to end up being the only tech person, everyone expeting me to upgrade their commlinks, and I didn't get any ranks in hardware. I know Atomic said he's been having a hectic week, but he said that in the recruitment thread for one of the Puyallups games, so not sure if he dumped this one for that one. His first post there is the 11th, so quite possibly. And looks like Talavera hasn't logged in since the 2nd, so prolly not gonna be here either. Chance is still quite active, but only has the one post here. So...... looks like we have 4 and I'm the only tech person?
Traul
Don't worry too much about commlinks: a pretty much maxed-out one costs less than 5 BP, everyone should have it covered.

My chaos mage can dabble in techie stuff with his high Logic.
Karoline
At 20k per BP it barely costs 1 BP for a full commlink.
Traul
I was counting the security programs too: stealth, data bomb, agent, attack, armor, ECCM,...
TommyTwoToes
QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 23 2010, 04:55 AM) *
Are Atomic, Chance, and/or Talavera still with us? They haven't posted since the 2nd, and I'd like to have an idea as to their characters (especially Atomic's TM) so I know what to run with. I'd hate to end up being the only tech person, everyone expeting me to upgrade their commlinks, and I didn't get any ranks in hardware. I know Atomic said he's been having a hectic week, but he said that in the recruitment thread for one of the Puyallups games, so not sure if he dumped this one for that one. His first post there is the 11th, so quite possibly. And looks like Talavera hasn't logged in since the 2nd, so prolly not gonna be here either. Chance is still quite active, but only has the one post here. So...... looks like we have 4 and I'm the only tech person?

My infiltrator will be fairly tech savvy, at lease enough that you can talk him through most tasks.
SleepIncarnate
Sent a PM Atomic's way and got a reply.

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Hey, did you leave the black ops game for the Puyallups one, or do you plan on playing in both? If you do plan on playing in both, can you talk with me about your TM so mine doesn't end up overlapping yours?


I believe I am going to be dropping it. Feel free to take over the Matrix slot.


So looks like we're for sure down him, prolly down Talavera too (considering s/he only posted 4 times total on the board, and has been gone most of a month).

Yup, unless Chance comes back with a hacker, or we get someone else, I'm the tech.
SleepIncarnate
To steal some of Karoline's thunder...

Whee!

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Dumori
I'll start the OOC and IC threads on the 1st just an FYI.
Traul
Name: Brian O'Toole
Fake SIN: Peter Mullway
Metatype: Human
Gender: Male
Age: 32
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Karoline
Hehe, Sanskrit.

Also: Woo 1st!
Mata Tabi
Any room in here? I know I'm new and all, but can take any spot that's needed if allowed.
Karoline
Think we only have 3 confirmed right now. So, we have a sniper/infiltrator, TM, and Mage.

Could be wrong though.
SleepIncarnate
Tommy's been active with us and he was doing an infiltration specialist, just not posted it. I may tweak mine a bit more too, based on what we get.
Dumori
Yeah if you can get a char to me b4 the 1st you can join.
Mata Tabi
QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 29 2010, 06:52 PM) *
Yeah if you can get a char to me b4 the 1st you can join.


If this is towards my inquiry, what does the group need? I dont see a 'rigger' (but could be wrong if TM is kitted that way), or a regular Gunbunny type.
Karoline
Sleep doesn't look like her TM is set up for rigging. No command CF, and no drones smile.gif

I have a handful of drones and a couple (personal) vehicles, but that's about it. Haven't checked, but I doubt our mage has much in drone power.
SleepIncarnate
My TM is a hacker/intel type while equally being our face (though low on contacts)
Mata Tabi
so, half for attributes?
Dumori
QUOTE (Mata Tabi @ Sep 30 2010, 06:55 PM) *
so, half for attributes?

Yep max 250
SleepIncarnate
Are you makin a rigger, or the gunbunny? If it's the rigger, I'll likely tweak my TM some to prevent too much overlap before we start play. And hooray for being the 1st (here in Asskrakistan where I'm currently deployed). Payday AND start of a new game, whee!
Sixgun_Sage
Hi, I started looking at this thread and it looks like a very interesting game, I was wondering if there is any way I could get in since I've been working on a gunslinger adept and this seems a fairly ideal game for him.


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Edit: Stillhave leftover cash but I fixed the power point hole, Nimble Fingers is the gunslinger adept's friend.
Dumori
Gah gonna have to put a hold on my planed start date it's the 2nd here already. Last three days now I've been struck ill nothing horrfic but has put a cramp on my writing and such.
Zadaine
This looks really cool. Sorry if I'm too late, but I was hoping to build an AI Rigger type character (if that position hasn't been taken and AIs are allowed).
SleepIncarnate
I'd suggest just making the character and seeing what happens from it. Our GM is a bit sick atm, so he may or may not accept it, he may decide to go with 7 instead of 6, or one of the others may drop out, or who knows. Never hurts to try.
Karoline
Well, works out well for me, I've been a bit forgetful about DS the last couple days.
Dumori
QUOTE (Karoline @ Oct 3 2010, 05:22 AM) *
Well, works out well for me, I've been a bit forgetful about DS the last couple days.

Right I'm pleased to say while I've fixed my illness (good old immune system). Life has just handed me a set of perks I can not turn down so while I'll try to get more ground work down a really scrutinise all your sheets. I wont be able to start this till mid week. Sorry for the delay.
Zadaine
Here's my sheet, hope that it's not too late and you take a look at it.

Mimir

Edit: Huh. It won't let me put the link there, so here's just the link: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=244295
SleepIncarnate
The link doesn't work, at least for me.
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