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Veynom
Is it possible with what used to be the Phys Ad (yeah, I'm refering to SR2, I'm old, Sue me nyahnyah.gif) to recreate some Naruto-ish characters?
Lansdren
Not very well,

depends on if its one person specifically or just generally. They would appear to range from physical adepts to mystical adepts depending on personal abilities.

You might be able to match up some similar aspects but the overall would be tricky to do.
Stahlseele
Depends.
Most stuff should probably work.
Obviously not the summoning big frog for the purely physical adept.
water walk for magic meters and running up walls for magic meters and the such is easy though . .
Veynom
and what about the different Jutsus... like the Shadow Clones, the one where, to avoid a hit, they place an object in their place... oh yeah, Substitution Jutsu, stuff like that?
Stahlseele
No, i don't think that works.
Well, one COULD argue tricks with sleight of hand . . palming . . and sneaking/stealthing skill . .
But probably not . .
braincraft
Just make it a special effect of the Combat Sense power. They thought you were there, but you actually weren't, because you saw it coming; that's what Combat Sense does, really.
Lansdren
QUOTE (braincraft @ Mar 21 2011, 02:45 PM) *
Just make it a special effect of the Combat Sense power. They thought you were there, but you actually weren't, because you saw it coming; that's what Combat Sense does, really.



No it doesnt

It basically gives you a better awareness of the situation so you do those last second dodges. Its spidey senses not a illusion spell
Lansdren
QUOTE (Veynom @ Mar 21 2011, 02:00 PM) *
and what about the different Jutsus... like the Shadow Clones, the one where, to avoid a hit, they place an object in their place... oh yeah, Substitution Jutsu, stuff like that?



This whilst key in the show is going to be damm near impossible to pull of in the shadowrun magic system, its too close to teleportation or creating matter. You can get away with some of it with illusion spells but your goign to be cutting it very fine with GM approval on the actual effects and your going to have to go mystic adept to do it.
Stahlseele
Create Food < = Spell as base.
Create $rand; = Spell as desired.
There is a precedent for it at least.
Veynom
Well... I guess I'll just go the right way with that...
Get stocked on SR4 books (coz I only have SR3)
play a good while...
think about it again when I'm familiar with the SR4 rules
Stahlseele
Alternatively:
go the shadowrun route.
brainwash GM to like naruto(nearly impossible) and bribe him to allow it.
phlapjack77
QUOTE (Veynom @ Mar 21 2011, 10:00 PM) *
and what about the different Jutsus... like the Shadow Clones, the one where, to avoid a hit, they place an object in their place... oh yeah, Substitution Jutsu, stuff like that?

Use the Double Image spell? This means myst ad, I guess...
Tymeaus Jalynsfein
Or a Combo Spell (Customized)...

You go Invisible (Physical or otherwise, Illusion Class) and leave an Image behind (Physical or otherwise, Illusion Class) that acts in your place.

Drain will be a little higher, but that is the price you pay for customized spells that take the place of 2 spells.
Stahlseele
Technology is your friend too.
Holo-Projections!
phlapjack77
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 21 2011, 11:22 PM) *
Technology is your friend too.
Holo-Projections!

"HA! You thought I was the real Quaid"....shoots gun..."I am!"
braincraft
QUOTE (Lansdren @ Mar 21 2011, 03:04 PM) *
No it doesnt

It basically gives you a better awareness of the situation so you do those last second dodges. Its spidey senses not a illusion spell

It turns hits into misses. It's really irrelevant how you explain the why of it, because a wizard did it regardless.
Shaikujin
Haven't thought of Naruto yet.

But the Shape [Material] spell reminds me of Full Metal Alchemist.
Lansdren
QUOTE (braincraft @ Mar 21 2011, 03:43 PM) *
It turns hits into misses. It's really irrelevant how you explain the why of it, because a wizard did it regardless.



No it doesnt it gives extra dice on a defense roll,
Stahlseele
QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:42 PM) *
"HA! You thought I was the real Quaid"....shoots gun..."I am!"

does not compute?
Tymeaus Jalynsfein
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 21 2011, 09:28 AM) *
does not compute?


From an old Arnold Movie - "Total Recall"
Stahlseele
Aah, i see . . been YEARS since i last saw that one i am afraid <.<;,
Shaikujin
Preliminary thoughts -

Most of the characters in Naruto would be Mystic adepts rather than psyads, a lot of their powers can only be duplicated by spells. The exception would be Rock Lee, who would be an unarmed specialist. Opening his chakras would be simulated by the Attribute Boost power. Maybe add some reflex recorders.

All of them would have varying levels of Killing hands, Combat sense, Critical strike, Wall Running. All summoning would be conjuration.



Naruto would have Rapid Healing, his Rasenshuriken would be a form of Distance Strike if not an outright Blast spell. Spirit possession & Channeling would be him using the force of the fox spirit sealed in him.

Sasuke's Chidori would be simulated by Penetrating Strike, plus some form or lightning aura

Shikamaru would have Analytics

Kiba would have Improved Sense: Smell, Attunement (Animal) metamagic, Empower Animal metamagic

Hinata and Neji's Byakugan would be outright Clairvoyance.


braincraft
QUOTE (Lansdren @ Mar 21 2011, 04:25 PM) *
No it doesnt it gives extra dice on a defense roll,

It's not a fruit, it's an orange!
Tymeaus Jalynsfein
QUOTE (braincraft @ Mar 21 2011, 10:42 AM) *
It's not a fruit, it's an orange!


Blue... wobble.gif
Stahlseele
42!
where can i collect my prize?
Veynom
Quebec City... it's a fridge... industrial size... and there's a problem with it...
What problem?
It's yours nyahnyah.gif
Veynom
QUOTE (Shaikujin @ Mar 21 2011, 01:30 PM) *
Preliminary thoughts -

Most of the characters in Naruto would be Mystic adepts rather than psyads, a lot of their powers can only be duplicated by spells. The exception would be Rock Lee, who would be an unarmed specialist. Opening his chakras would be simulated by the Attribute Boost power. Maybe add some reflex recorders.

All of them would have varying levels of Killing hands, Combat sense, Critical strike, Wall Running. All summoning would be conjuration.



Naruto would have Rapid Healing, his Rasenshuriken would be a form of Distance Strike if not an outright Blast spell. Spirit possession & Channeling would be him using the force of the fox spirit sealed in him.

Sasuke's Chidori would be simulated by Penetrating Strike, plus some form or lightning aura

Shikamaru would have Analytics

Kiba would have Improved Sense: Smell, Attunement (Animal) metamagic, Empower Animal metamagic

Hinata and Neji's Byakugan would be outright Clairvoyance.



Whoa!
I wish they would have done PACKS with those smile.gif
Stahlseele
QUOTE (Veynom @ Mar 21 2011, 08:08 PM) *
Quebec City... it's a fridge... industrial size... and there's a problem with it...
What problem?
It's yours nyahnyah.gif

challenge accepted.
i know people that can and will take care of moving it over here.
customizing it to my needs will be a bit harder, but i guess it'll be a cozy one room flat with the worlds best climate control ^^
Veynom
I seriously doubt it chummer... it's actually in my kitchen and the fridge part freezes food... I even lost an important amount of insulin because of it... I wont shoot myself frozen insulin, no sir-ee, f**kyouverymuch nyahnyah.gif

seriously though, but on a whole different line of thought... which of SR2 and SR4 do you guys prefer?
Tymeaus Jalynsfein
QUOTE (Veynom @ Mar 21 2011, 12:55 PM) *
I seriously doubt it chummer... it's actually in my kitchen and the fridge part freezes food... I even lost an important amount of insulin because of it... I wont shoot myself frozen insulin, no sir-ee, f**kyouverymuch nyahnyah.gif

seriously though, but on a whole different line of thought... which of SR2 and SR4 do you guys prefer?


SR4A all the Way... It is a much cleaner system overall... biggrin.gif
Veynom
SR4A... is that the regular or the 20th anniversary one?
Veynom
SR4A... is that the regular or the 20th anniversary one?
Tymeaus Jalynsfein
QUOTE (Veynom @ Mar 21 2011, 02:20 PM) *
SR4A... is that the regular or the 20th anniversary one?


20th Anniversary...
Veynom
Cool, that's the one I was planning on buying smile.gif
Glyph
The trouble with trying to emulate characters from a show like Naruto is twofold.

First, generally you will need to be a multi-initiate mystic adept to get to where you are a half-assed version of the characters from the anime. Hell, you need to be a multi-initiate adept or virtually a cyberzombie to make most completely mundane characters from anime (Noir, etc.).

Second, mystic adepts kind of suck in SR4 - they are usually spread way too thin, and unless you are clever in how you build them, they won't come into their own until way later, advancement-wise, and even then they are unlikely to be as good as a "pure" mage or adept.
CanRay
If I'm going to emulate an Anime Character, it's going to be "Fist of the North Star" or "Gunsmith Cats", thankyouverymuch.

...

OK, maybe "Read or Die".
Glyph
You actually could do Fist of the North Star in SR3, with killing hands D and delayed damage.

"In three seconds, your head will explode..."
KarmaInferno
QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 21 2011, 10:42 AM) *
"HA! You thought I was the real Quaid"....shoots gun..."I am!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVjmFxCyv0E



-k
Critias
QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 21 2011, 10:16 PM) *
If I'm going to emulate an Anime Character, it's going to be "Fist of the North Star" or "Gunsmith Cats", thankyouverymuch.

...

OK, maybe "Read or Die".

Cowboy Bebop's pretty doable, and almost for a starting character.
Whipstitch
Especially if you went with Jet instead of Spike and his Piloting/Firearms/Explosives/Kung-Fu skill set.
Rasumichin
Most characters from Texhnolyze should work as well.
We also had a few threads on here about building the Major and the tachikomas.
I think Frank Trollman's matrix rules had a technomancer network based on the hacker group from Serial Experiments Lain (although you could forget about Lain herself past the end of episode 4 or so, there's no way to ever pull that kind of stuff off in SR).
Your average slice of life show protagonist is probably doable with under 300 BP. There's plenty of non-superheroic characters in anime once you get past the usual shonen crap.
Don't forget the Uncouth quality in any case, it's important for all those moments where you just stand around and stare at people angryly instead of giving a reply.
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