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Paul
So where would you place the power level of your game?
Paul
My games tend to be low powered, starting in the gutters. Characters literally need to crawl and claw their way out of the muck and mud, and blood. We've run Epic games before but we prefer the earthy feel of seriously worrying about an Ork with a Street Sweeper.
Tymeaus Jalynsfein
Middle of the road, for the most part, with occasional instances of Gutter, and others of Over-the-Top. I have a 3rd character who is finally approaching the 300+ Karma Mark, and he has yet to be what I would call powerful. He is a Mage to boot. His big saving grace is that he is very versatile (39 Spells), but only has Magic 3 for casting.
snowRaven
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Dec 20 2011, 11:15 PM) *
Middle of the road, for the most part, with occasional instances of Gutter, and others of Over-the-Top. I have a 3rd character who is finally approaching the 300+ Karma Mark, and he has yet to be what I would call powerful. He is a Mage to boot. His big saving grace is that he is very versatile (39 Spells), but only has Magic 3 for casting.


Wow! I don't think any player at my table has ever reached 39 spells, and that's in 21 years of gaming. We've had several with intiate grades of 5-9 though... grinbig.gif

Mostly, we run 'middle of the road' games, with the occasional flirt with epicness and a few cases of 'gutter'. Atm, my players made characters with 400 BPs AND 150 Karma, yet stayed firmly in the 'middle level' range. IMO, their characters this time around are less 'epic' and less 'min-maxed' than the ones they made for the last two campaigns, using 'only' 400 BPs. They are quite well-rounded, though, and full of interesting character options!
Grinder
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I don't play. (This option is for CanRay)


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Tymeaus Jalynsfein
QUOTE (snowRaven @ Dec 20 2011, 03:52 PM) *
Wow! I don't think any player at my table has ever reached 39 spells, and that's in 21 years of gaming. We've had several with intiate grades of 5-9 though... grinbig.gif

Mostly, we run 'middle of the road' games, with the occasional flirt with epicness and a few cases of 'gutter'. Atm, my players made characters with 400 BPs AND 150 Karma, yet stayed firmly in the 'middle level' range. IMO, their characters this time around are less 'epic' and less 'min-maxed' than the ones they made for the last two campaigns, using 'only' 400 BPs. They are quite well-rounded, though, and full of interesting character options!


Heh... The sad thing is, I have a list of another 60 Spells or so that I am working on. Even still, I have managed to Initiate 3 Times. smile.gif
Glyph
I picked "some other style", because the games I have been in ranged from 40 BP (SR3) games, to playing someone in a team of cyberzombies.
Hound
Generally middle of the road so far. One of my players is getting ready to GM an Epic campaign though, and I've been dying to run a Gutter game for a while now.
CanRay
QUOTE (Grinder @ Dec 20 2011, 06:54 PM) *
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BASTARDS THE LOT OF YOU!
Stahlseele
QUOTE (CanRay @ Dec 21 2011, 01:26 AM) *
BASTARDS THE LOT OF YOU!

Bet you still clicked it though! ^^
Also, kinda mixed.
Everything is a serious threat if i get to play.
Usually for my character . . i have learned not to disregard the heavy pistol pointed at me anymore <.<
CanRay
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Dec 20 2011, 08:43 PM) *
Bet you still clicked it though! ^^
That goes double for you.
Stahlseele
QUOTE (CanRay @ Dec 21 2011, 01:45 AM) *
That goes double for you.

From you, i accept it without arguing ^^
thorya
I picked the lowest, because that's the level of the game I'm starting. 320 BP, everyone picks a day job background and starts from an NPC stat block and then builds from there until they reach 320 BP. It's a group starting from being SINers and slowly being pulled deeper and deeper into the shadows.
But really it depends upon the game. The last game was much more middle of the road. And the first game of Shadowrun I was in (which sadily was only three sessions) had dice pools of 16 and up for almost everything and featured a lot of mooks being torn to shredds with ease.
RelentlessImp
Moderate. I tend to play the Mage just to keep people alive when it comes time to geek the enemy mage. Counterspelling is a wonderful, wonderful thing for your teammates.
Midas
I picked "Middle-of-the-road", 'cos that is probably where my group is right now. According to SR canon, out-of-the-box 400BP characters are just starting to be recognized as serious runners as opposed to gutter-punks and wannabees. So it goes in my game, if they are by-and-large successful for the first 6-8 runs, their fixer starts to think of them as pros who get the job done and starts putting some of the better-paid riskier AA and AAA corp runs their way. They excel at that and they are starting to flirt with epicness ...
Sixgun_Sage
Clicked High because it is most appropriate, but my games tend to always have a mix of everything. Even my epic games tend to have a bit of grit in them. It isn't just about the point values but about the style of play as well and I try to encourage even the specialists at my table to put some points in to the fluff.
snowRaven
QUOTE (Glyph @ Dec 21 2011, 12:52 AM) *
I picked "some other style", because the games I have been in ranged from 40 BP (SR3) games, to playing someone in a team of cyberzombies.


Hey Glyph - Cage Fight was quite fun! =D
squee_nabob
While the survey doesn’t have good benchmarks as to what is “Middle of the Road” vs. “Moderate”, I feel comfortable stating that my SRM02 character went from High Powered (his first mission half a dozen Red Samurai showed up to kill him), to Epic (he drove a bus through downtown Denver to see Ghost Walker while the party’s chopper circled a few hundred meters overhead to provide aerial support).

About the time the party gets a helicopter, I consider the Epic mark passed. If Fastjack had stats, I’m sure Cypher could outmatrix him (although Fastjack could kick more people in the junk).
Saint Sithney
I picked Moderate because I like street-level stuff, but prefer to lower starting availability and stat maxes than to lower BP/karma amounts. James Bond gear doesn't really start until Avail 10, and mages without foci are far less scary.
Shortstraw
umm one of my characters started with a helicopter but i wouldn't call it an epic game....
Stahlseele
Wonder who else thought he was canray O.o
CanRay
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Dec 23 2011, 07:37 AM) *
Wonder who else thought he was canray O.o
Before you ask, I can only vote once, so it's not all the characters I made for the game and never got to play.

The number would be much higher then.
Stahlseele
Yah, i figured something along those lines ^^
Dr.Rockso
QUOTE (CanRay @ Dec 20 2011, 07:26 PM) *
BASTARDS THE LOT OF YOU!

Heh. Hoof it all the way to the République of Québec and I'll hook you up with a game. Then we can go skin ourselves some free spirits.
CanRay
QUOTE (Dr.Rockso @ Dec 23 2011, 02:08 PM) *
Heh. Hoof it all the way to the République of Québec and I'll hook you up with a game. Then we can go skin ourselves some free spirits.
Well, it'd be friendlier and warmer than Winnipeg... wink.gif
3278
QUOTE (Dr.Rockso @ Dec 23 2011, 06:08 PM) *
Heh. Hoof it all the way to the République of Québec and I'll hook you up with a game. Then we can go skin ourselves some free spirits.
QUOTE (CanRay @ Dec 23 2011, 06:12 PM) *
Well, it'd be friendlier and warmer than Winnipeg... ;)

Well, warmer, anyway. ;)
pbangarth
QUOTE (Dr.Rockso @ Dec 23 2011, 01:08 PM) *
Heh. Hoof it all the way to the République of Québec and I'll hook you up with a game. Then we can go skin ourselves some free spirits.

QUOTE (CanRay @ Dec 23 2011, 01:12 PM) *
Well, it'd be friendlier and warmer than Winnipeg... wink.gif

Meet in the middle in Toronto and I'll buy the beer.
CanRay
QUOTE (pbangarth @ Dec 23 2011, 04:04 PM) *
Meet in the middle in Toronto and I'll buy the beer.
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*Thud*
pbangarth
I was the same way until I actually lived here, big guy. Now I wouldn't live anywhere else. Except, maybe Tahiti. Yeah. Tahiti. I even joked that I would love to teach Archaeology in Tahiti if only they had a university. Then I checked. They HAVE a university.

But no Archaeology or Anthropology department. Shit.
bibliophile20
Hey, if you guys are meeting in Toronto, let me know; I'll make a day trip across the lake.
CanRay
QUOTE (pbangarth @ Dec 23 2011, 10:16 PM) *
I was the same way until I actually lived here, big guy. Now I wouldn't live anywhere else.
I'm from Northern Ontario. Toronto is an evil place to me due to that.
QUOTE (bibliophile20 @ Dec 23 2011, 10:19 PM) *
Hey, if you guys are meeting in Toronto, let me know; I'll make a day trip across the lake.
*Sighs* I may visit. Someday. Maybe... Doubt I'll ever be able to afford to live there.

Almost as bad as New York. Work three jobs for what amounts to an upright coffin hotel room.
pbangarth
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*Sighs* I may visit. Someday. Maybe... Doubt I'll ever be able to afford to live there.

Almost as bad as New York. Work three jobs for what amounts to an upright coffin hotel room.


There's part of the illusion right there.

A person who takes home after taxes and deductions $1500 to $1800 a month can live in a one bedroom apartment in a nice residential neighbourhood (Damn the Americanized spell checker!) close to parks, shopping and cafes, with easy public transportation to all the city offers; eat and drink (booze too) all he wants; phone, cable TV and internet; and go out on occasion to theatre or music or sports. I know. Under my current, reduced circumstances I am such a person.

Yes, in another city you can live for less. But in this city I can get all that a major, multicultural city has to offer.

Except a Leafs game. I can't afford that.

Six houses away from my house is a park that has a dogs-off-leash area. Two houses the other direction is a cafe with great coffee and amazing sweets. And two beautiful servers. Two blocks from my house is a store that has bi-weekly Magic the Gathering tournaments.

Close to my work (which is 35 minutes away from home, walking and subway total) is a new Chinese bakery that has savouries and sweets, and I can get a full meal for $2.50.

I can go to the Royal Ontario Museum, one of the world's best museums, for free on Wednesday afternoons. Right nearby is the Art Gallery of Ontario, the Textile Museum, the Ceramics Museum, the Bata Shoe Museum.....

National Ballet of Canada and a host of other dance troupes. (I admit Winnipeg has damn fine ballet, too.)

Four major league sports teams to go to. Except the Leafs. I can't afford that.

I don't need a car. For anything. If I want to visit my aunt and uncle in Huntsville, or my brother in London, I rent a car or take the bus. Otherwise, the third largest public transit system in North America, after Mexico City and New York City, gets me close to anywhere I want. Except the distant suburbs. But I don't want to go there.

Public transit goes from the international airport to wherever the net reaches... including a few minutes walk to my place.

The 401 highway through Toronto is the busiest in North America, except on occasion when one in Los Angeles takes over for a year or two. I hate that road, but I don't need to use it. That was one of the things that led me to disparage the city before I really knew it.

Having said all that, Toronto is not such a nice place to live if you are unemployed. But then, where is?

Now if only, with ten million people within a two hour commute of my place, I could find a reliable set of players to play Shadowrun, I would be set. Damned if I can do that, and I don't know why.
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