Hoi, I was wondering if anybody knows/made any rules for electrolasers? I was wanting a pistol-sized less lethal energy weapon for a runner I am making. I figured electrolasers or PEPs would fit the bill nicely. Any replies would be appreciated. Thanks.

I liked this better when it was called a lightning gun.

But no. SR(4) has normal lasers.

A pistol-sized stun weapon, hmm? Like… a pistol with S&S, or a taser?

Hmm, too bad. I know I can get roughly the same results with a taser or s&s rounds, but I wanted something exotic, preferably energy based. If necessary I will see if I can use the Mako Arc Pistol I came up with awhile ago. I was hoping for something official. BTW if I knew how I would add a link to the picture I did for that gun. Sorry.

There's also the Screech weapons, etc. I dunno, it seems like goofing with the setting to add an exotic sci-fi (though, yes, not impossible) gun just to be special. But do what you like, obviously.

I feel like the laser rules would be particularly unkind to it, though, especially for a small pistol-sized weapon. :/

Ares Shockbeam. WAR!, page 155.

8 stun (electrical), AP -half, 16F, 14000 .




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Beat me to it.

Whoa, missed that. Count on WAR to bring the crazy.

Relevant for OP: "inaccurate—the weapon is the size of a large assault rifle, but it uses shotgun ranges."

The Fichetti Pain Inducer from the Core Rulebook might fit the bill.

IIRC, it uses a laser to superheat a conductive pathway for the lightning it generates to hit its target, which is actually a feasible method of delivery.

Sounds neat - where can I buy one? I need it for work...

OP linked to the wikipedia page.

I was hoping more for a link to eBay or something...

Tesla Gloves, exotic ranged weapon with 1m energy arcs for 4S(e)

Attitude pg. 154

Weird!

Who says you need to be a mage to throw lightning bolts

I think that uses microwaves to heat the upper layer of the targets skin.

Doh, I can't believe I forgot those. Those rank waaay up there on the "Cool-o-meter." I want Tesla-Holo-AR Gloves.

My Pixie MystAd got a pair.

Yes. She can throw magic lightning bolts. She still wanted the gloves.




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I dunno. At some point things stop being cool and start being weird and fancy for the hell of it. :/ I'm having trouble with basically everything in War, Attitude, and Spy Games.

This is the thired time I read something like this recently--

Followed by something like this

I guess WAR! is becoming a trope.

In theory you could make one today, in 60 years...

Just take a Tazer and say that it uses a small laser to ionize the air to deliver electricity. After all, if we can have a micro welder laser in the eye we should be able to fix it into a gun and add a battery for the shock effect. The only difference from a regular tazer would be the no-need for wires.

Not even that actually, only the troll tazer uses wires.

Well, not everyone has a problem with WAR!

Be glad you guys don't have the German WAR! book. It's been merged with another splatbook, MilSpec Tech. YMMV.

"Because a laser-induced plasma channel relies on ionization, there must be air or some other gas between the electrolaser weapon and the target."

*Snort*
A.k.a. "This gun does not work in outer space."

Right, in space you take dmg from a laser shot right before you take dmg from electricity.

And why would you choose to use a Shockbeam in Space, exactly?

What I'm wondering is, why that had to be spelled out on Wikipedia.

Ahhhh.... Yeah, that is a bit weird.

Well said splat can be had in the form of a PDF or part of the Runner's Black Book, so it is nothing special to the german market...

Perfect for your Sith-wannabe cloak-wearing adept!


The stuff in Attitude I find mostly consistent with the 80s cyberpunk-weirdness that SR is partly based on, so that works fine for me. Spy Games I find tethering on the edge at some points, but no more than parts of the 'basioc' sourcebooks really. War! has a lot of things I happily ignore, though...

I ignore most of the pricing for MilSpec Vehicles - especially the combat drones in WAR!, as they are about a factor 10 - 100 to cheap (of course, the pricing for the MBTs and Jets also make no sense, but a price-range of a few million is outside of player reach anyways).

It is generally a problem if you bring out rulebooks with extensions.
It always leads to the fact, that everything in there is even too good or just worthless. Already there or has a completly different flavor.
This a foundamental problem, you can't get rid of.

Yes, you may minimize it, but thats very hard to do and requires disciplined and smart writers and a hell of organisation skills.

A way to prevent this is to have one book for one topic.
For example:
Arsenal, if it is a weapon, it is in the arsenal.
Riggers handbook, if it is a drone or vehicle in shadowrun, it is in the riggers handbook
Augmentation, if ...
Way of the adept, everything about adepts
Way of the magician, everything about magicians
Way of the spirits, everything about spirits
So really put one aspect in one book and make it a complete piece of work.

Only problem with that is that you can't ever introduce new/different gear unless you restart with a new edition...

Did not say it has no drawbacks.

It great for searching rules and and makes the rule fitting better. But you have to think ahead more.

Then again, it's even easier if you put everything in the main rulebook.

(except lifting said rulebook, of course - but that's what pdf's are for isn't it?)

Oh, I have plenty of problems with WAR, just not with that bit.



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Point Taken...