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Sid Nitzerglobin
Hiro Mitsushima (street sam) is done except for some work on his contacts:
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I've got a prettier character sheet I can upload once we've got a Google Docs repository or whatever.
Raiden
someone should totaly make an improvised throwing weapon master. ( literally throwing pencils, forks, paper and the like for 7-8P damage lol!!)
Raiden
my Unarmed martial artist/face is doing 12p damage with his fists.. + sound element damage...O.o I did not mean to make him that broken lol
Iduno
QUOTE (Raiden @ Aug 17 2012, 11:49 PM) *
my Unarmed martial artist/face is doing 12p damage with his fists.. + sound element damage...O.o I did not mean to make him that broken lol


There's something strange when the only person on a run whose weapon makes noise is the guy using fists.
_Pax._
Well, Raiden, that would completely overshadow my Kid Adept concept. So ... I guess I'm down to my Hacker-Adept (my first choice anyway):

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And so, I come to a question for the GM, regarding Advanced Lifestyles. Well, two questions, really:

(a) Can we use them? I reallyhope so, I like personalising each character's home-sweet-home, as it were.

(b) I made some custom Lifestyle Qualities a while back, and right now this character has one of them. The full details are in this post, here:
http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?top...28120#msg128120

Or alternately, below:
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The character above has the non-shielded Safe Room quality. If that's kosher, "yayy!" If not, "oh well my rent just went down", hahaha. biggrin.gif
Raiden
whats scary is when a girl at the age of 14 is hitting people for damage then milttech grade sniper rifles do O.o.....it was like being in a group with the grudge.. that guy RPed that char waaaay to well lol.
Raiden
QUOTE (Iduno @ Aug 18 2012, 10:31 AM) *
There's something strange when the only person on a run whose weapon makes noise is the guy using fists.


like I said in another post, I am my own asskicking theme music player. lol
Sid Nitzerglobin
QUOTE (Raiden @ Aug 18 2012, 12:56 PM) *
like I said in another post, I am my own asskicking theme music player. lol

Much more convenient than this scenario:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBjXXzqXjIQ
Iduno
QUOTE (Raiden @ Aug 18 2012, 11:56 AM) *
like I said in another post, I am my own asskicking theme music player. lol


I was imagining it being more like the Batman TV show with Adam West. Yours works as well.
Raiden
could totaly go with comic book nerd, He is a comic book hero!, whenever he punches someone, it makes the sound ( BAM, POW, and the like, ( yay for cartoon XD)
Speed Wraith
QUOTE (Raiden @ Aug 18 2012, 02:07 PM) *
could totaly go with comic book nerd, He is a comic book hero!, whenever he punches someone, it makes the sound ( BAM, POW, and the like, ( yay for cartoon XD)


I once had a player in an OWoD game with a character who was a 10 yo gaming geek when he was embraced by a Malkavian. Spent the whole time thinking, thanks to his Malkavian insanity, that he was in a LARP.

I definitely allow advanced lifestyles, I love the added flavor, but I'll have to put the other part of the question on the list of other rulings I need to make. Answers coming soon.
Iduno
Also, does anyone know how to get chummer to output a text file? Or at least text I can copy-paste?
_Pax._
One other thing I neglected to consider, that needs a GM call: are we allowed to "break" Skill Groups?

I hope so, because the current build of my hacker-adept did just that (with Hacking, raising it from the Group level of 4, to an independant level of 6).
Thorguild
QUOTE (Iduno @ Aug 18 2012, 02:25 PM) *
Also, does anyone know how to get chummer to output a text file? Or at least text I can copy-paste?



I had to print to PDF, then copy.

Thorguild
Iduno
I typed up the character, it gets less detailed towards the end. I managed to get to 0 karma and 0 nuyen. PM me if I screwed something up.

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I don't think you can break or re-create skill groups during character creation, but I also though reaction was important to a jumped-in rigger.
Thorguild
Hey all,

I have a suggestion for character generation using Chummer.

This page: http://www.dndjunkie.com/chummer/wiki/Settings-Files.ashx describes setting up the settings file for Chummer. Can we make a "SpeedWraith.xml" settings file which includes the ruleset we are using?

Having the wrong check box can make big difference in a character's cost. Using a common file could save us some headaches.

I don't see an option to attach a file here, but I can send the file I made which includes the 5x cost, and has the books I have access to as a starting place.

SpeedWraith, once we get the G+ thing going we can include is as a resource. In fact, it might be good to switch over ASAP. Forums get hard to manage after they get to three pages!

Thorguild
Raiden
New to forums, I was gonna post one of my guys back story(which wound up being alot longer then I expected) here for opinions and suggestions. how do ya do the spoiler thing :3 lol.
Iduno
QUOTE (Raiden @ Aug 18 2012, 06:38 PM) *
New to forums, I was gonna post one of my guys back story(which wound up being alot longer then I expected) here for opinions and suggestions. how do ya do the spoiler thing :3 lol.


I hit the Insert:hide thing on the left side, realized it was wrong, and typed spoiler in between the brackets instead. Luckily that worked, but there is probably an easy way. Don't do things the way I do, especially with technology.

Maybe use the wrap in code tags button above the text box? I don't konw what that does, but it seems likely.
_Pax._
QUOTE (Raiden @ Aug 18 2012, 06:38 PM) *
how do ya do the spoiler thing :3 lol.


CODE
[spoiler]this text is hidden[/spoiler]
Halinn
Just a question from a spectator - how well would a G+ Hangout game work without a webcam?
Iduno
I've only ever done text chat or chat with both webcam and voice. Tone and facial expressions do not come across in text very well, and I imagine it'd be easier to notice distracted players with video. I'm guessing you'd want at least voice or visuals. Probably both.

Unless you have ugly players.
Sid Nitzerglobin
To post in collapsed spoiler you can do the following
CODE
[spoiler] text you want collapsed here [/spoiler]
edit: oops, Pax got this

You can copy the text from the Chummer character sheet if you click Print then select "Text only" from the Character Sheet drop down on the top right but it's not super pretty and doesn't include any notes you may have added.

Having a common settings file would be awesome. I put the contents of the one I'm working off of below:
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Speed Wraith
I've created a shared Drive folder and opened it up to those of you that have sent me your email addresses. Everyone can take ownership of one of the "Player X" folders, just rename it to your character name and remove anyone it is shared with other than you and me. Documents created in a folder (called a "collection" in Docs) should default their share settings to the folder's settings, but if you need to keep anything to yourself or between GM and you, I'd double-check it just to make sure. There is a document I'm using to note currently unresolved rulings, such as the martial arts and home-brewed lifestyle qualities (no update just yet, been a busy weekend), so you can use that to post questions about rulings.

I'm falling a bit behind my schedule, and I don't have everyone's info yet, so I might just bump the first session back a week, but OTOH, I'm focusing on K.I.S.S. for the first run. Using new technology with people I haven't met in person is bound to run into snags, so I want to keep things relatively straightforward for the initial session/adventure (from now on, I'll be using the term "Episode"), so I might feel like things are good enough for this coming weekend.

Also, this thread is getting a bit lengthy, I'm going to play with the Groups tool a little to see if we can take the chatter there, or if everyone has signed into a G+ account we can use that as well.
_Pax._
QUOTE (Speed Wraith @ Aug 19 2012, 07:32 PM) *
I've created a shared Drive folder and opened it up to those of you that have sent me your email addresses.

Where? How do I find it? ")

Also, will the game hangout have a persistent URL, or just be started up by you for each session? Or what?

Forgive me my n00bishness, but this is new technology for me. smile.gif
Speed Wraith
QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Aug 20 2012, 01:19 AM) *
Where? How do I find it? ")

Also, will the game hangout have a persistent URL, or just be started up by you for each session? Or what?

Forgive me my n00bishness, but this is new technology for me. smile.gif


Link to share: https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B1LeimAtn...HZGY0ZjMTA/edit

You can also get there by launching Docs or Drive and selecting the "Shared with me" folder. No sure about the Hangout question, new technology for me also. I'm home today because the fiancee is sick, so I'm hoping to take the time to get caught up on a few things including playing around more with how Hangout works. Heck, I'm thinking once we figure it out and get to a place where we can run a smooth game, we might be able to live-feed it to YouTube in case other DSers are curious. But that's not an immediate concern, just a cool thought about the tech.
_Pax._
QUOTE (Sid Nitzerglobin @ Aug 17 2012, 10:01 PM) *
I've got a prettier character sheet I can upload once we've got a Google Docs repository or whatever.

I would be happy to play data-entry with my copy of Hero Lab, and make PDF character sheets for anyone who wants one (and doesn't mind me being privy to the nitty-gritty details of their character, of course). smile.gif
Speed Wraith
You should all have invites, but if not: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum...r-love-of-money

Basically Groups is a forum system. It's less like Yahoo's mini-facebook, and more like modern forms and the old newsgroups that those forums came from.

Iduno
It could be a bit before I can get my updated character. My laptop no longer wants to work correctly. I might be able to get it fixed tonight, or at least get to my data.

Gmail (and other personal mail) is blocked here at work, so I assume the other stuff is as well.
Raiden
I will get my char posted soon. still have not decided which to use lol. and if speed OKs them
_Pax._
QUOTE (Speed Wraith @ Aug 20 2012, 12:54 PM) *
You should all have invites, but if not: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum...r-love-of-money

Basically Groups is a forum system. It's less like Yahoo's mini-facebook, and more like modern forms and the old newsgroups that those forums came from.

No invite here, yet. And without one, I can't see, post, or even ask to join.

Meanwhile, I uploaded a PDF of the current version of my hacker-adept, now called "Grave", to the Docs/Drive folder now renamed after him.
Speed Wraith
Weird. It did act a little goofy when I tried to send it. I'll play along with the settings and get an update when I have it figured out.

UPDATE: Okay, I added everyone using the Direct Add option. If you got an invite email, disregard and try the link again, let me know.

Here it is again so you don't have to scroll:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&...r-love-of-money
_Pax._
Very strange; it shows me as a member when I look at the List of members, but I'm still getting the "you're not one of us" message.

I'll poke some more from my end.

Yayy, new technology! /sarcasm ... hehehe

EDIT: aaaaaah, no, this is a different message I think: "You cannot view topics in this forum. You do not have the necessary permissions to view topics in this group."
Speed Wraith
QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Aug 20 2012, 03:41 PM) *
Very strange; it shows me as a member when I look at the List of members, but I'm still getting the "you're not one of us" message.

I'll poke some more from my end.

Yayy, new technology! /sarcasm ... hehehe

EDIT: aaaaaah, no, this is a different message I think: "You cannot view topics in this forum. You do not have the necessary permissions to view topics in this group."


Haha, at least you're in. Time to dive into the permissions settings now that the first part works nyahnyah.gif

Try it now. It looked like a simple fix.
_Pax._
Yeh, working just fine now.

And hey, after having me play guinea pig, now you know how to get it right hte first time for everyone else. smile.gif
Raiden
Got my Ex-swat guy posted in the file share. pretty sure I am gonna go with him unless we already have a gunslinger.
Thorguild
So on the races, are Pixies and Shapeshifters allowed?

Thorguild
Speed Wraith
Allowed, yes, but not recommended. Shifters can be especially troublesome. Expect a pixie to be treated poorly on a whole and a shifter to be fairly vulnerable as their Street Cred rises (and thus, more people know who and what the shifter is).
_Pax._
If you DO play a Pixie, I strongly suggest taking SINner, and being from France. Alternately, a criminal SIN issued in Tir Tairngire (there's a Pixie population in and around Portland, and the Tir has been issuing criminal SINs to Pixies who stray onto the wrong side of Tir law).

Either way gives you at least a LITTLE bit of protection, in the form of being a verified citizen of a recognised sovereign state.

Otherwise? You're not even a PERSON ... you're a DANGEROUS ANIMAL.

...

You'd still face the same prejudices, the same person-to-person and day-to-day difficulties. But at least you won't get sniper-shot by Animal Control, just for walking (flying?) down the street in a "nice neighborhood" kind of place.
Speed Wraith
Thorguild: Is your son in or out? I have a player on a wait-list, and we're getting close to crunch time so I'd like to finalize my setup wink.gif

By the way, let's try to move the forum stuff over to the Groups site so its easier to work on. I've been testing it out and think it could help deal with unwieldy threads.

EDIT: BTW, I might be able to use Google Sites to put Docs and Groups all in one URL, this is something I'm toying with now. The Groups gadget looks good, but I'm a little wary about Docs settings because I don't know if my GM-only folder is going to be visible to everyone even though the share settings are set to me only. I'm going to create a dummy doc in that folder and leave the page up. If someone wants to help me test this out, please just let me know and I'll give you the info you need to look into it.

The link to the proto-site being worked on it: https://sites.google.com/site/shadowrunremotegaming/
Thorguild
My son is in.

He was working on a gun-adept, but does not want to interfere with another gun-based character's mojo. I told him that most SR games have plenty of room for people that shoot.

Thorguild
Iduno
QUOTE (Thorguild @ Aug 21 2012, 10:29 AM) *
My son is in.

He was working on a gun-adept, but does not want to interfere with another gun-based character's mojo. I told him that most SR games have plenty of room for people that shoot.

Thorguild


I think it's fairly common that everyone can fight, sneak, and talk passably. That means there is plenty of room for overlap/teamwork. Especially with 5(?) players.
_Pax._
QUOTE (Thorguild @ Aug 21 2012, 11:29 AM) *
My son is in.

He was working on a gun-adept, but does not want to interfere with another gun-based character's mojo. I told him that most SR games have plenty of room for people that shoot.

Thorguild

Oh, they definitely do. There's riflemen, spray-and-pray hosers, wild-west-esque pistoleers, "heavy weapons orks/trolls", etc, etc, etc.

Then there's Adepts or Augments or Mundane-Edge-Monkeys. Stoic dwarves, study orks, or agile elves.

And so on. smile.gif

...

Kudos to him, though, for thinking of other players' enjoyment as well as his own. I've met folks twice his age who would never bother doing so.
Raiden
if he wants to play a gunadept I can totaly go with my troll face.. who punches down buildings... in a beefed up corp exe. suit from Zoe.... with a cane...
Raiden
huh, cant get into gmail or google hangout frown.gif
Speed Wraith
Weird, what sort of problem are you having? Got a specific error? I'm assuming that means you can't hit the Group where we've been doing the chatting lately nyahnyah.gif
Raiden
yea I dunno, It just will not load anything google wise frown.gif
Raiden
well I finally got into google stuff... just takes forever to load :/ and having no idea what I am doing makes it harder to XD lol
almost normal
Guessing recruitment is full up?
Speed Wraith
QUOTE (Raiden @ Aug 23 2012, 10:42 AM) *
well I finally got into google stuff... just takes forever to load :/ and having no idea what I am doing makes it harder to XD lol


Hmm...what browser are you using? IE should be fine, though maybe you need a newer version. Obviously, Chrome works perfectly, being a Google product itself. I have no clue how Safari, Opera, or any others might interact with Google's stuff.

QUOTE (almost normal @ Aug 23 2012, 11:12 AM) *
Guessing recruitment is full up?


It is, unfortunately, lots of folks seem to be interested in trying this out. I'm working on starting a blog to detail my experiences, and will post a thread after we have our first real session (first Saturday in Sept.) to talk about it with the community.

FWIW, having learned what I have so far, I have lots of projects floating about in my head. Later this year I just might be asking DSer and Battletech fans for help setting up a Solaris 7 league idea I have using Tabletop Forge and Hangouts (plus other Google resources I've been playing with).
Iduno
QUOTE (Speed Wraith @ Aug 23 2012, 10:50 AM) *
Hmm...what browser are you using? IE should be fine, though maybe you need a newer version. Obviously, Chrome works perfectly, being a Google product itself. I have no clue how Safari, Opera, or any others might interact with Google's stuff.


I can confirm Firefox and IE work fine. Even the script-blocking I've got on Firefox doesn't seem to be a problem.

Not sure what would cause the slow page loading.
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