So I recall, in SR4, seeing an item that would allow someone to shoot fire out of various places, and even had a comment like "And some crazy bastards mount this in their mouth."

I can't find that reference, but it's generally irrelevant, since I'm trying to do this in SR3 (and my SR3 library is a lot smaller). I found a piece of bioware in the Companion that makes a gland, but that's restricted to natural liquids. Is there anything out there?

If not, what would be the best, in rules way, to do this?

"Natural" needs better definition. I'm sure someone better schooled in the exact science of organic chemistry could name a few highly flammable liquids produced within the bodies of creatures.

There's an oral pistol. 4l Damage.
Or oral dart pistol. Or the oral Slasher Cyber-Ware.
Which is, basically, a Spur on a spring and leashed to your body.

I saw those, but it's still not breathing fire....

Is there an ammo that could go in the pistol like Dragonsbreath rounds?

I've been out of SR3 for a *long* time....

And Shadowdragon: I've actually been googling around this morning and everyone seems convinced that creatures could make something flammable, but the holy grail of "chemicals that mix to start a fire" seems outside the reach of nature so far (despite lots of people wanting it).

Implanted Air-Tank with a high-pressure valve.
And then something in the teeth to ignite a spray of flammable liquid that comes out of the internal air-tank?

As for the Pistol: of course, there are Ex-Ex-Ammo and Tracer-Rounds and Ignition Rounds i think.
But it's still a silly little hold out pistol . .

If you want actual fire, the air-tank-set-up would be the best Bet.

You could try and get your GM to allow the eye-laser-weapon to be installed there and not in the eye maybe?

perhaps your looking for chemical glands man and machine p.64

allows you to spray some aerosol

They do?
I thought they only allowed you to produce something in your body?

Naptha is a natural substance...

There are plenty of flammable oils produced naturally. Also a fair number of creatures exist that can produce the spark that would ignite such oils.

Produce and eject it - spray, spit, absorb, something else.

And that's what I was looking at, but it seemed to suggest that fire was out.

if you can produce something flammable and spit it like a spitting cobra, all you need is a way to ignite it . . that is where the laser comes into play!

Interesting.

And Halinn - any examples? My cursory google couldn't find anything that could actually make the spark needed.

Although I could do something custom, I was hoping to avoid that too much.

If all else fails:
Venom Sack.
Can store anything liquid and if you get yourself a delivery system installed, like, say, a modified dart pistol, and something to ignite it, like, say, a laser, it could work too.

I'm seeing a distinct theme here, Stalhseele. Something to do with....lasers?

Google suggests a laser can do this, but I don't know if a mouth mounted laser could have the right effect.

Why not?
As long as the focal point is outside of your mouth, the danger of hitting anything that could hurt is basically nil. And it means the liquid will never ignite inside your mouth as well, and you can have the laser fire in a wide beam instead of just a narrow one too, so more surface being hit by it. and if it's not lit up still, the laser will make it appear to be glowing, thus looking a bit more like embers/fire already! ^^

How about the electric eel?

Also, do cybereye lasers exist in SR3?

They do.
They are all but useless, but for this, it should work . .

Yes, cybereye lasers did exist in SR3. I'd second the chemical gland with exhalation spray option (M&M pg 64) for the fluid, and for ignition, your best bet would probably be the high-powered "tool laser" in the eyes. Not sure how effective it would be though. If you're willing to accept the base of the palm as the weapon location, the "Cyber-squirt" (implanted Ares Supersquirt II) for the fluid source might be a better option. (implanted along the forearm with nozzle port in the base of the palm ala spiderman)

ah, right, i actually completely forgot about the squirt gun . .
don't see why it should only go into an arm. if it has an essence cost, it can go anywhere, and in a neck there is a bit more space than in a fore-arm. at least in diameter.


hell, with only 0,3 essence cost, this is damned cheap!

just throw on the laser. its the obvious choice.

Well, the description specifically says "Only in a cyberarm" so it could be difficult.

I like the internal air tank idea - could I fill that with something that is flammable on contact with air, and expel that?

More dangerous than the laser idea though.

You can i'd say.
Bu DO remember, that under SR3, if you are playing with these rules, the internal airtank is basically like a bomb in your body.
If it gets hit you get a really hard to resist deadly wound . .

Imagines powdered white phosphorus stored in a helium tank internally, ready to spray out onto some poor unsuspecting schmoe....

If you go with something that reacts with air, the internal tank is a double whammy. Not only will it explode doing major damage, but that nice pyrophoric substance will now burn what remains of you. Well I guess it does leave no identifiable corpse so that is a plus.

Your team will at least appreciate that your body and worn equipment can't be used to track them.

Lots of hydrogen beer.