Okay, so I'm planning on running Food Fight tomorrow as a demo game for some new players. I figured I'd just print out the map from the PDF and use that.

Well, first I had to edit out all the starting locations and such.

Then I decided it had to be bigger.

Then I decided that I didn't like how the image looked scaled.

And, well, long story short...

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1954/stuffershackmap.png

Feel free to use if you like.

So... where's the toilet?

0Little detached room halfway up the left.

If you mean the fixture itself, I didn't feel the need to include everything.

"Employees only! NO PUBLIC TOILET!!!" "Fine, I'll go piss on the side of your building then." "Go ahead, Devil Rats nest there." "DAMNIT! Shouldn't have had the Dragon-Gulp sized Cola!"

Minding what they make the drink of, I don't envy the rats...

Thinking more of: "Jump... Bite... OW!!!"

Another Stuffer Shack floor plan (2050 and 2070): http://www.fexes.de/pict/stuffer_shack.jpg

Well you do have a Dragon-Gulp sized Cola cup...

Obviously not in New York, then.

Oh, I'm sure the corps that own Buzz Cola and the like would have long bought off the city of New York to have that law repealed long ago.

Im lost here... what is this law?

No SUPER SIZE DRINKS from fast food restaurants, IIRC.

AFAIK American normal size is our super size, go figure ^^

Yep, and that is why Americans are increasingly obese too. It is a big problem (Forgive the Pun)...

just think what might be in the public toilet of a stuffer shack. no thanks I'll hold it.

New York City recently passed a law that made it illegal for drinks to be served that were larger than 16 oz sizes. 32 oz is far more typical of drinks served in places, these days, and they can be much, MUCH larger.

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The 16 oz is nearly 500 ml in size (473 point blah blah), while the normal cup given out at, say, McDonalds in America is 650 ml. (The Long Tall & Cool cup, should anyone have one handy.)

The fine for this is ... $200 I want to say? Per cup.

Handy when you need to interrogate someone, however...

"Hey, look at that, a Troll just left with chili stains on the front of his shirt..." "OH GHOST NO! I'LL TELL YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT!!!"

Devil rats. Spot check before you squat.

God, the days as a kid I would go to 7-eleven (Circle K?) and get a 64oz drink and finish it no problem...surprised I don't have diabetes...the good news is that I can now hold it for a long, long time...

Common drink sizes in fast food restaurants here.
0,2L Small
0,4L Medium
0,5L Large

You'd be hardpressed to find anything bigger then that on a menu.

Mmmh, metric

METRIC! HELL YEAH!!!

MetWhat?

It's weird getting called over at work to translate for someone... becaus ethey need to know sizes in metric measures, but speak fluent English.

I'm the only person in the store (out of 400-ish people!) who knows it.

SO. WEIRD.

Of course its weird. Metric isn't English.

You'll come around to it, I mean the brits are slowly starting to learn. It might be french but it makes sense and you can always count metric on your fingers...

What's weird is measuring weight in stones. What kind of unit is *that*? Besides, those silly American units are defined relative to the metric system.

Stones is about as weird as Hands. Those English are bonkers, man.

And Hands are about as weird as Feet.

Yeah, you got me there.

I really, really wish the metric movement would take hold in the US. I mean, seriously, base 10 instead of base-whateverthefuckwhoeverwasinchargewassmokingandflashbackedintoseeing would be so nice.

Speaking of smoking things, I <3 the customers I get at my repair shop. Just finished uploading a video for a conspiracy theorist who is convinced that in the 70s the government was cloning folks out at the Las Vegas test site, is using them to replace influential folks in the world, and also have a satellite that has a 'sound pick' to pick up conversations. I can provide video links if you want a good laugh at the mentally ill/tweaked out druggie types. They're a fun watch, and have made for a great drinking game.

But it's so simple...
12 inches to the foot, 3 feet to the yard, 66 yards to the chain, 10 chains to the furlong, 8 furlongs to the mile, 3 miles to the league (Hey, there's our first number that's been used before). An acre is 1 furlong * 1 chain.
Over in the mass units, we have a grain being 1/7000th pound, an ounce being 1/16th pound, a stone being 14 pounds, a hundredweight being 8 stone (112 pounds, because that makes sense...), and a ton is 20 hundredweights (2240 pounds)
Thankfully, they at least decided to relate volume to one of their other units. A gallon is 231 cubic inches (seriously, 231?!), a quart is 1/4th that, and then downwards: a pint is half a quart, a cup is half a pint, and an ounce is an eighth of a pint, a tablespoon half an ounce, and a teaspoon a third of a tablespoon. But that's apparently only for liquids, because you seem to have separate definitions of volume for dry substances.

Also, if any of these are wrong, it's because I used the wrong type of imperial units, because there's even fucking ambiguity what the size of these idiotic measurements are relative to one another...
I have no idea why anyone would find this simpler or more intuitive.

English money before decimalization was worse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_sterling#Pre-decimal

That link doesn't even dig into the the quarter penny coins, the fact that the value of the Higher coins were tied to the gold standard, but the lower coins weren't so you might show up to the store to discover that the value of your money has changed. I can't imagine the fun.

A chain is 66 feet. 'Nuff said.

What's a liter? it's 10cm³ of cold water, how much is that? It's a kilo!
So 1m³ of cold water is 1 ton is 1000 litres

What's a meter anyway? it's a fraction of the distance between the north pole and the equator running through paris... and it's also easy to measure quite accurately with an average step

Don't forget the uses of combining imperial and metric units. Speed of light? About a foot per nanosecond.

It's the distance traveled by light in a vacuum in 1/299792458 seconds (the number coming from a need to make it as close as possible to earlier definitions). The meridian-based definition was only for about four years, before they just made a physical rod as the standard for measurement (mostly for reproducibility).

Because a lot of people grew up with it?

It still intrigues me. When converting distances, do people really go around remembering that a mile is 1760 yards? Do people go around whipping calculators up whenever they have to convert miles to feet? Your system really makes no sense at all.

Halinn: No, not really. Most people just sort-of gist it; IE, a conveniently small number of miles is the distance between <your hometown> and <place you frequently travel to>. In my case, four miles is the distance between the nearest interstate on-ramp from my home to the bridge that leads to another state.

Miles are a measurement we only use whilst traveling, and as such, other measurements have basically no use whilst traveling. If you're on foot, you're probably thinking in terms of feet or yards (if you're old, most young people would rather just use feet,) and if we're in our cars, we're thinking in terms of miles - IE, the exit I want is four miles down the road, the farthest I can see right now is a mile, that jackass just blew past me and now he's a quarter mile ahead of me. Anything shorter than an eighth of a mile is probably going to be stated in "carlengths," which is roughly the length of a Ford Victoria, IE, "that guy was so close I couldn't see his headlights in my mirror, but I stepped on the brakes and now he backed off three or four carlengths."


Is it a good, logical, mathematically consistent system, no, not at all. Ever since I got my Garmin GPS unit, I set her to metric to try and get myself thinking in terms of kilometers, but it still kind of just makes me think in terms of "It's 4 kilometers from here to the exit I want" more than anything else, even though I know that 1Km = 1,000m and all that, even using the very, very rough approximation of a yard and a meter being similar enough to be worthwhile as an approximation with distances under ten of them.

I will put it this way. Do you actively think about your units of measurement, or do you just use them? ShadowDragon8685 gives a good example. When I am driving, I do not think in Kilometers, I think in Miles. I do not usually think in Meters unless it has to do with Firearms and shooting things (Odd I know, but there you go). I tend to think in Feet, Yards and Miles for every thing else. It is what I grew up with, and I do not actively think about it. Some units of Measurement (such as the Rod or Chain) I do not even use at all. Nor do I use Stones or Hands for any type of Measurement, even though they do exist as a measurement unit. *shrug*

Mostly, I just use them, but particularly when concerning volumes, it's very nice being able to do the conversions between m^3 and cm^3 (for example) in my head.

I get that. I truly hate Volumes. Especially when converting. Yuck.

So, how many square feet in an acre? Because I can give you the number to square meters in a hectare easy enough.

Ummmmm... Don't Care? In either category. Not something I tend to use in daily life.