Ok, redundant process manufacturing is an upgrade from WAR! which is generally, and quite rightly, considered to be entirely unworth its excessive price tag (2 slots and 100% to 200% of the base weapon price). It can be bought at ratings 1 or 2, and increases the gun's object resistance by that amount. When it is literally cheaper to carry a copy of your favorite gun around rather than make it marginally more resistant to some spells, the upgrade is unlikely to be a favorite.
However...
An Ares predator with RPM 2 weighs in at a healthy 1050 nuyen, which makes it a costly side arm. Why bother? Because improved invisibility suddenly needs 7 hits to overcome its object resistance and hide from it rather than 5. That means most mages are going to be overcasting, possibly several times, in order to get the required hits. It's also less likely that a mage has 7 initiations and extended masking than the 5 they need for a camera without RPM 2 (though 5 initiation mages aren't exactly common in the first place!).
Sure it's a narrow niche, but when it pays off it does so big time. And let's face it, who doesn't enjoy a mage's expression when you pop some caps through their supposedly impenetrable invisibility?
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I've seen one well-placed Demolish (Gun) spell disarm a whole squad of trained corporate killers. As it's an area spell, all spares got destroyed too.
Not sure if increasing threshold would have helped though - the spell states that target resists with Body with no mentioning of threshold for inanimate objects.
Not sure if increasing threshold would have helped though - the spell states that target resists with Body with no mentioning of threshold for inanimate objects.
QUOTE (Smirnov @ Jun 21 2013, 09:29 PM) 
I've seen one well-placed Demolish (Gun) spell disarm a whole squad of trained corporate killers. As it's an area spell, all spares got destroyed too.
Not sure if increasing threshold would have helped though - the spell states that target resists with Body with no mentioning of threshold for inanimate objects.
Not sure if increasing threshold would have helped though - the spell states that target resists with Body with no mentioning of threshold for inanimate objects.
this is when they pull out the swords for close combat :3. although it would make them considerably LESS dangerous lol.
QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Jun 22 2013, 01:15 AM)
However...
An Ares predator with RPM 2 weighs in at a healthy 1050 nuyen, which makes it a costly side arm. Why bother? Because improved invisibility suddenly needs 7 hits to overcome its object resistance and hide from it rather than 5. That means most mages are going to be overcasting, possibly several times, in order to get the required hits. It's also less likely that a mage has 7 initiations and extended masking than the 5 they need for a camera without RPM 2 (though 5 initiation mages aren't exactly common in the first place!).
Sure it's a narrow niche, but when it pays off it does so big time. And let's face it, who doesn't enjoy a mage's expression when you pop some caps through their supposedly impenetrable invisibility?
An Ares predator with RPM 2 weighs in at a healthy 1050 nuyen, which makes it a costly side arm. Why bother? Because improved invisibility suddenly needs 7 hits to overcome its object resistance and hide from it rather than 5. That means most mages are going to be overcasting, possibly several times, in order to get the required hits. It's also less likely that a mage has 7 initiations and extended masking than the 5 they need for a camera without RPM 2 (though 5 initiation mages aren't exactly common in the first place!).
Sure it's a narrow niche, but when it pays off it does so big time. And let's face it, who doesn't enjoy a mage's expression when you pop some caps through their supposedly impenetrable invisibility?
And how does a gun's higher OR change the fact that the shooter still can't perceive the target if he can't beat the spell's resistance test? Apart from the fact that the Predator probably doesn't have a base OR of 5.
You can use the Predator IV's camera for the SmartGun system like a spider does a security camera, and see through it rather than pay attention to your own eyes.
And the fact that the gun in this case is automatically a SmartGun it likely counts as a computer, and not just alloys and electronics. But YMMV on the base OR here. Give it any Pilot Upgrade option and it's automatically a drone and OR 5 anyway.
And the fact that the gun in this case is automatically a SmartGun it likely counts as a computer, and not just alloys and electronics. But YMMV on the base OR here. Give it any Pilot Upgrade option and it's automatically a drone and OR 5 anyway.
QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Jun 21 2013, 06:15 PM)
Because improved invisibility suddenly needs 7 hits to overcome its object resistance and hide from it rather than 5.
Hate to break it to you, but sensors are generally OR3.
that being said, RPM sensors are a bloody good idea.
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