QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 30 2013, 08:14 PM)

QUOTE (BlackJaw)
An internal Smartgun, like those found in an Ares Predator V or that you retrofit to your weapon with the Accessory option...
What are you refering to by this phrase? I can't find anything about modifying or retrofiting weapons in the corebook...
~Umi
Yah, that's not my best turned phrase ever.
What I was trying to say is that there are two listings for a smartgun system in the accessories section: One is an external smartgun system that attached to a mount point on the gun, the other is an internal Smartgun which page 433 describes as "Retrofitting a firearm with an internal smartgun system". The actual rules for modifying the weapon aren't actually in the section, and the rules increase the price and avalibliity, making it seem more like buying one with a built in smartgun instead of adding one yourself, but that wasn't the point of my posting. I was trying to talk about how the matrix rules say each device on the matrix has it's own icon, and the implications of an internal smartgun vs and external smartgun in terms of bricked weapons.
My understanding is that an Ares Predator V comes with an internal smartgun system, so it's smartgun system and gun both use the same device icon on the matrix because they are the same device. A Colt Government 2066 does not have a Smartgun by default, but according to page 424 all firearms have some wireless functions, and therefore have matrix device icon. The Smartgun description on page 433 has it's own wireless options and has two methods of being added to a gun. If you wanted add a Smartgun system to that colt government 2066 you have two options: You can either "retrofit" an internal system (increasing it's price and availability) via the option on page 433, or you can attach an external smartgun, (top mounted because heavy pistols don't have an under-barrel mount.) To me, an internal system would be like the Ares Preadator V: a single device icon, but the external system would be two icons: one for the gun and one for the separate smartgun system. That means they each have their own matrix damage track, and thus each can be bricked separately. Now, and again, this my interpretation, if your gun gets bricked, you're SOL until you can get someone with hardware to fix the wiring. However, if it was just an
external smartgun system, you could remove the system and your gun itself should be fine. I admit that an attached bricked smartgun is likely to prevent the base weapon from working at all, but I figured removing a bricked smartgun is simpler than fixing the electronics in the gun itself.
IE: Because the gun and the smartgun each have their own device icon and each has it's own wireless bonus, it should be possible to run the gun with the wireless off, but the attached external smartgun with it's wireless on, and more or less use the smartgun as a kind of buffer. If it get's bricked, the gun's matrix track is still fine, so if the smartlink is detached, it should continue to work, although lacking in smartgun assisted accuracy.
Of course not everyone agreed with me. No specific rules are given for
removing a smartgun, but it was pointed out that it's actually a fairly complex task to integrate an external smartgun onto a gun. (Armorer + Logic 4, 1 hour) so it's probably not as easy to remove as I thought. By comparison, fixing the bricked status is a Hardware+Logic test, and each hit either reduces a matrix damage or reduce the normal 1 hour time frame by half, to a minimum of 1 combat round.
And there is a second interpretation here: Adding an external smartgun system to a gun might integrate those functions into the gun, leaving it a single icon in the matrix instead of two icons, more or less how I interpreted the internal smartgun to work.
Overall, my idea was not as cool as I thought it was.