QUOTE (IKerensky @ Aug 12 2013, 02:56 PM)
If you are annoyed about magic now, wait for it to go to full power... Creating lifeformes from thin air, putting cities into bottles... Things are just started, and when magic will combine with technologie then it will really be something.
Science and technologie exist to permit people to do things they cant do naturaly, magic is the antithesis of both because it remove the limits and make both of them redundant and useless.
I would not say tech and science are made redundant and useless by magic. Anyone can pick up a gun and fire it, albeit to different degrees of accuracy, whereas only those born with the inate gift for magic can ever use a spell.
But part of the problem in the equation is the relative ease we have for magic in SR. And it is a tough balance to maintain in any game system. Make it too hard to advance to the good stuff and nobody will want to use magic, make it too easy and it will outstrip technology unless you go ubertech which becomes like onto magic itself. The Nanotech had that potential, but it was reigned in as it will take time to find ways to incorporate it without going Clarke's Law on everyone.
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Cyberpunk is not space opera, it is not about the triumph of technologie, it is about the downfall of man... A cyberpunk society isn t developping and successfull, she is grim, stagnant, moribund, dis-humanised. Magic trumping technologie add to the thème and prove once more that man wage on the wrong horse and that his choices will come back bitting his ass.
That would be a good definition of Dark Cyberpunk, and yeah SR can seem that way, especially with recent events. But it's in that face of adversity that we can shine, even if only briefly. The reward is in the struggle along the way, not necessarily the end of that journey.
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About Dragon ruling the Earth, I really think it is time for everyone in SR to realise how un-earthly inhuman they really are and that sharing Earth with something that consider you part cattle, part house pet, part next-snack cant finish well for meta-humanity.
Well they ARE Inhuman, though I would not necessarily go on about the unearthly.
(metahu)Man likes to think in his own terms and tries to apply his own thought processes to everything around him, but Dragons and most sapient critters for that matter are NOT human and do not necessarily follow our own ways of thinking. This is nothing new and most of these same beings readily admit it, it's just we as metahumanity chose to ignore it and try to paint a pretty human face to it then wonder why they do things that don't meet that image we conceived of.
And there will be a conflict between man and dragon eventually, but do not count the monkey boys out just yet.