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Voran
I was just wondering what the average wealth your runners tend (if there is an average) to end up with. Is it a function of game-level-intent? Street version games vs International Shadow Action? Does it matter if you're a mundane or a tech-type? Are you still street-level poor, Permanent Middleclass, Higher? Kane level of "Yeah I operate multimillion dollar vehicles to further my piracy and stuff" of wealth?

How long did it take you to achieve the wealth rating you ended up with?

I'd say the 'retirement wealth' my chars end up with tends to be a few million (3-7). Depending on if I need to upgrade cyber and stuff post chargen, it may be less.
CanRay
20¥ and a gift certificate for Stuffer Shack.
Draco18s
QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 26 2013, 07:19 PM) *
20¥ and a gift certificate for Stuffer Shack.


Wait, you actually PLAYED a game? eek.gif
Erik Baird
If he did, he must have been playing the rigger.
FuelDrop
Nah, he just used the core book's pay scale. I think that the gm was generous with the gift voucher.
Dolanar
I would say that depends on the group, some groups like to have to struggle to make enough for Rent & ammo, others like to have enough to buy an upgrade of some sort every few sessions. I plan to keep an up to date calender for my group & allow them to decide how much money they make by budgeting their time.
CanRay
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Sep 26 2013, 07:27 PM) *
Wait, you actually PLAYED a game? eek.gif
I GM. It is how I'm able to write for the game.
Jaid
QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Sep 26 2013, 07:57 PM) *
Nah, he just used the core book's pay scale. I think that the gm was generous with the gift voucher.


well, maybe the GM felt sorry for him since the pay increase for facing two great dragons as opposed to one doesn't exist (unless the party consists of only one person and that's the only encounter, in which case you would qualify for being outnumbered two to one by NPCs of a professional rating of four or better and you qualify for a 1k nuyen bonus, but that only applies if that one PC never faced 3 or more random schmucks. also, at six great dragons, you qualify for another 1k nuyen bonus, and may also qualify for that outnumbered bonus if your group has 3 PCs instead of only 1).
Chrome Head
QUOTE (Jaid @ Sep 27 2013, 01:07 AM) *
well, maybe the GM felt sorry for him since the pay increase for facing two great dragons as opposed to one doesn't exist (unless the party consists of only one person and that's the only encounter, in which case you would qualify for being outnumbered two to one by NPCs of a professional rating of four or better and you qualify for a 1k nuyen bonus, but that only applies if that one PC never faced 3 or more random schmucks. also, at six great dragons, you qualify for another 1k nuyen bonus, and may also qualify for that outnumbered bonus if your group has 3 PCs instead of only 1).


I laughed out loud. So true. So sad.
Dolanar
yeah, the pay should scale a bit better, if you're facing a GD, I'm asking for 200k/person minimum.
quentra
I /try/ to pay my runners well, but it turns out the Johnson's are usually trying to screw them! Poor runners.
Chrome Head
Thankfully they can ask for half up front. Pretty standard, in good part for that reason.
Jaid
QUOTE (Chrome Head @ Sep 27 2013, 10:34 AM) *
Thankfully they can ask for half up front. Pretty standard, in good part for that reason.


half of "getting paid less than the cost of the ammunition i would need to use assuming you the great dragon never actually counterattacks or defends itself in any way" up front is still not a convincing argument that i should face down a great dragon.
Sendaz
QUOTE (Jaid @ Sep 27 2013, 03:37 PM) *
half of "getting paid less than the cost of the ammunition i would need to use assuming you the great dragon never actually counterattacks or defends itself in any way" up front is still not a convincing argument that i should face down a great dragon.

Would you do it for a Scooby Snack? nyahnyah.gif
Chrome Head
QUOTE (Jaid @ Sep 27 2013, 03:37 PM) *
half of "getting paid less than the cost of the ammunition i would need to use assuming you the great dragon never actually counterattacks or defends itself in any way" up front is still not a convincing argument that i should face down a great dragon.


Haha I'm not arguing that. The pay grades don't scale properly at all. I think most GMs will likely ignore that part of the book entirely.
Dolanar
I'll use it as a guide, but likely increase the amounts.
Jaid
QUOTE (Sendaz @ Sep 27 2013, 06:41 PM) *
Would you do it for a Scooby Snack? nyahnyah.gif


no.


.......

i'd do it for *two* Scooby Snacks smile.gif
FuelDrop
QUOTE (Jaid @ Sep 28 2013, 12:01 PM) *
no.


.......

i'd do it for *two* Scooby Snacks smile.gif

good man. Hold out for a fair price.
CanRay
*Steals the Scooby Snax and eats them quickly*
Angelone
For 25k I'll find out what happened to the Scooby Snax.
Chrome Head
For 40k I'll guarantee no one messes with the Scooby Snax. Ever.
Dolanar
for 100k I'll blow up the Scooby Snax so whoever has them gets dead. & make sure every box is loaded the same way.
Dolanar
for 100k I'll blow up the Scooby Snax so whoever has them gets dead. & make sure every box is loaded the same way.
FuelDrop
for ten bucks (Plus expenses) I'll run down to the store and grab a fresh packet. what isle are they in again?
Jaid
QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 28 2013, 02:18 AM) *
*Steals the Scooby Snax and eats them quickly*


eh, this isn't so bad.

now i don't have to go take on any great dragons any more. enjoy your shadowrun CanRay.
Sendaz
QUOTE (Chrome Head @ Sep 28 2013, 03:11 AM) *
For 40k I'll guarantee no one messes with the Scooby Snax. Ever.

eek.gif Zoinks! eek.gif
Draco18s
QUOTE (Sendaz @ Sep 28 2013, 12:03 PM) *
eek.gif Zoinks! eek.gif


Jinkies!
Sendaz
ScoobyRun™

Where your misfit team of teenagers and one dog (MastiffAdept?(yes we know he is a Great Dane, work with us), cyberhound?, shapeshifter?) investigate mysterious happenings.

Freddy- Face/Rigger

Daphne - Combat Specialist (see the movie for that update nyahnyah.gif )

Velma - Decker/Investigator

Shaggy- Monster Bait / Shaman w/ Mentor Spirit: Chicken

Scooby- ??
CanRay
Bad enough I have one member in my group that keeps wanting to do this!
Voran
A Daphne and Velma sandwich?
CanRay
QUOTE (Voran @ Sep 28 2013, 05:22 PM) *
A Daphne and Velma sandwich?
I already have one Shipping FanFic to do In Universe.
KCKitsune
QUOTE (Sendaz @ Sep 27 2013, 06:41 PM) *
Would you do it for a Scooby Snack? nyahnyah.gif

I'd do it for a Klondike bar. grinbig.gif

Back on topic, the pay scale in Shadowrun is pants-on-the-head retarded. Honestly, for the money you can get in one run (ESPECIALLY if you're a mage) get a job at a corp and relax. Payouts need to be at least 10 times what's stated.
Sendaz
QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 28 2013, 05:35 PM) *
I already have one Shipping FanFic to do In Universe.

Yessss... about that *cracks whip*
FuelDrop
Modern con artists can make a pretty penny or two. Why should shadowrunners in the future make so little by comparison?
CanRay
QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Sep 28 2013, 06:56 PM) *
Modern con artists can make a pretty penny or two. Why should shadowrunners in the future make so little by comparison?
Competition. biggrin.gif
KCKitsune
QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 28 2013, 08:25 PM) *
Competition. biggrin.gif

There's not THAT much competition!
Angelone
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