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cutter07
Seeing alot of people saying they're new to SR or inexperienced with firearms. Lots of experienced shooters here, thought I'd share. www.thehighroad.org
GreatChicken
sarcastic.gif The most experienced shooters aren't the ones who shoot for sport.

Still, it might be a good source to learn inner workings.
Raygun
http://www.thehighroad.org/

Or...
cutter07
Actually Great most of the people on the board are CCW holders and are very,very detailed about weapons, ammo, holsters, weapon laws, etc. Give them a shot.
Kagetenshi
This discussion does not bring high hopes for the ambient intelligence level.

~J
CircuitBoyBlue
Great, this is all we need. Another discussion about gun "rights," where my fellow countrymen scare the crap out of me, nobody convinces anyone of anything, and in the midst of all the trash-talking, we all forget the most important reason we're all here: to bitch about the game we love so much.
Vlad the Bad
Here's a good site I found about specific gun statistics and a little ballistics. I've seen it linked to on this board before.
http://world.guns.ru/main-e.htm
otomik
i've been posting there regularly since the day it was created (same handle: "otomik"). you might also want to check out http://www.thefiringline.com/ it preceded THR and after a long hiatus is starting back up again (it's been around so long it's search tool is very informative).

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showth...light=shadowrun
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&t...light=shadowrun
Kagetenshi
QUOTE (CircuitBoyBlue)
Great, this is all we need. Another discussion about gun "rights," where my fellow countrymen scare the crap out of me, nobody convinces anyone of anything, and in the midst of all the trash-talking, we all forget the most important reason we're all here: to bitch about the game we love so much.

Nope. I'm not commenting about rights at all. I'm commenting about the mindset that translates someone claiming they wouldn't feel safer with a gun into their being "anti-gun".

~J
GreatChicken
*sigh* Humans are hopeless. They rely on such things to defend themselves more than their own 4 limbs and brains.
Person 404
Personally I've not had much luck accelerating little bits of metal to over the speed of sound using only my limbs and brain, but I'll admit that I gave up pretty easily.
otomik
QUOTE (GreatChicken @ May 22 2004, 04:08 PM)
*sigh* Humans are hopeless. They rely on such things to defend themselves more than their own 4 limbs and brains.

jeez, where do you think guns come from? people make them using their limbs and brains. humans are toolmakers. chicken, maybe you should use forementioned brain more often and rely less on comments immitted out your cloaca.
CardboardArmor
This'll eventually degenerate into a 'martial arts/melee is better than guns because omfg it requires more skill and gun users are dumb lol' morass. I can smell it coming.
Kagetenshi
Bah. I will kill you with the vast power of my brain.

~J
GreatChicken
No, it's not. At least not from my angle. sleepy.gif


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people make them using their limbs and brains.


Only the manufacturers do that. The rest O' the population just buys them. While it may take brains to earn the money needed, how much brains does it take just to actually do the transaction over the counter, mindless form-filling aside? ohplease.gif

otomik
can we have a katana-phile chip in something about how we're both wrong and etc etc *anecdote of amazement* and "god will be cut".
GreatChicken
Forget it. Anyone good enough to do that probably wouldn't want to waste his/her time refuting us. indifferent.gif
Capt. Dave
QUOTE (GreatChicken)

The rest O' the population just buys them. While it may take brains to earn the money needed, how much brains does it take just to actually do the transaction over the counter, mindless form-filling aside? ohplease.gif

It takes brains to handle a firearm properly. What we need to do is determine the common-fraggin-sense of a potential buyer before a purchase can be made.

Remember, guns don't kill people, stupid %$#@!$% with guns kill people.
Fygg Nuuton
the only real guns are the ones whos barrels are folded millions of times like the desert eagle.

i use one with my katana which i sharpen on human souls and use to cut engine blocks in half rotfl.gif
otomik
yep some people make the mistake of regarding their weapon at some kind of magic talism of defense, it's not the center of your power, cops are some of the worst offenders in this regard. but learning how to use a weapon takes time and limbs and brains. Some people don't get it or aren't movitated or disciplined enough to do this. The same people that buy fake Nunchuku or Chinese Swords or "Saturday Night Specials".

i wouldn't lump all "humans" into that kind of group of people
Arethusa
QUOTE (GreatChicken)
Forget it. Anyone good enough to do that probably wouldn't want to waste his/her time refuting us. indifferent.gif

Exactly.

Stop this silly 'debate' and get back on topic, all of you.
Solstice
QUOTE (otomik)
rely less on comments immitted out your cloaca.

ahhaah I'm probably the only person here who knows what that means.
Kagetenshi
No, you aren't.

~J
Phaeton
Likewise.
John Campbell
There are people who don't know what a cloaca is?

Y'know, I've seen people take the Esoteric Trivia knowledge skill and use it as a mechanic for getting the GM to give them information about anything and everything.

I take the Esoteric Trivia knowledge skill so I have something on my character sheet to point at when I come out with bizarre bits of useless knowledge in-game.
CircuitBoyBlue
Many years ago I was GMing a game where one of the characters came out in the middle of the game with a "General Knowledge" skill that I had missed when I looked over his character sheet, and demanded that he be allowed to use it for pretty much everything on the grounds that I, as GM, had ok'd it. I told him it was fair game, but his target number would be a 38 for trying to figure out how to kill a cosmic baddy that was unique to the campaign. Now whenever I have to look over character sheets, I look VERY closely.
Austere Emancipator
We all have Google. To not be able to find out what cloaca means within 1 minute would take massive amounts of stupidity.

Anyway, my favorite band is called CMX, short for Cloaca Maxima. And we all know what that means right? And we all know what else it means, right? I guess it means a third thing, too, but that's too obvious.
Phaeton
Yes. silly.gif
cutter07
Bump for those who will use the links I and others posted. Hope it helps those that might have questions
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