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Da9iel
Almost all runs are illegal in some way otherwise they wouldn't need to call it shadowrunning. Have you ever tried to play a character that tries to stay legal like doing bounty hunting (people or critters) or combat medical services (self defense is legal isn't it?)? Any other ideas for a legal profession that doesn't put you to sleep?
CircuitBoyBlue
You could be one of the pigs, but I don't know how you'd get to sleep at night.

Wait, that was rash. I bet half you people are fuzz sympathizers. Nothing like bringing a good old heat wave down on myself on a Shadowrun forum...
Panzergeist
Yeah, I'm playing a Lone Star campaign now. And I've always wanted to play an FBI campaign.
Da9iel
That's pretty good! Now why didn't I think of that?

I suppose there might be a few private eyes out there who toe the line, but I suspect most would bend the law here and there. Then again, that might go for the Star too.
CardboardArmor
Military campaigns and that sort. You're required to abide by certain laws (military, international conventions, etc.).
Nikoli
I've been running a Private Eye campaign, both ont he board and irl. Both are quite entertaining (at least to me)
Toptomcat
I had one character who was technically a legal shadowrunner but only because he did things like use an obscure interpretation of 1700s privateering laws persisting in the UCAS because of a 'six degrees of kevin bacon'-type legal defense.
Most cops just gave up on trying to book him for the weapons when he handed them a 402-page legal brief on exactly why he was allowed to carry them without a permit.
Nikoli
LOL, that law(sheister)5/7 paying off is it?
Crimsondude 2.0
QUOTE (Panzergeist)
Yeah, I'm playing a Lone Star campaign now. And I've always wanted to play an FBI campaign.

Why? So you can ignore evidence and intimidate people?
nezumi
Doc Wagon campaigns can be fun for a bit. Paranimal hunter/explorer, special ops team, computer programmer or racing team are all adventurous, sexy jobs you could do in SR. Seems like it could be fun to play an aggressive IRS person against corps or violent individuals. My aunt-in-law worked for something like that and had to receive some light combat training (this was before she saw the light and became an evangelistic Christian and turned away from the path of evil).
Nikoli
There is always field correspondence team, good oportunity for cyber, small arms and automatic weapon permittance and combat
Crimsondude 2.0
QUOTE (nezumi)
Seems like it could be fun to play an aggressive IRS person against corps or violent individuals.


Ah, the Chromed Accountant route. That''s a pretty cool idea, and I've tried it. Unfortunately, he ended up evolving into something very different.

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My aunt-in-law worked for something like that and had to receive some light combat training (this was before she saw the light and became an evangelistic Christian and turned away from the path of evil).


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This edit was originally to suggest playing a team of freelance personal security specialists (bodyguards), however this gives me an opportunity to mention how I think it is likely that by 2060 a lot of professionals will be going between legal, illegal, and quasi-legal depending on the day of the week activities depending on their jobs--and that people who start in legal positions such as SpecFor, Law Enforcement Officers, Corporate Security, etc. will have skills that are very in-demand and highly transferable, and will go from a corporate strike team to military contractor, bodyguard, merc, shadowrunner, back to corp strike team and maybe a stint advising or contracting with a police agency (or corp). So I think it's very likely and easy to play a PC who is, or was, or will be a lawful actor even thought they aren't always such.

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kevyn668
Evil being the IRS...?
Crimsondude 2.0
Nothing to see. Move along.
Snow_Fox
We've done a resistance/military game in California against the Japanese.

My main character is a PI who works with the police., She avoids wet work and things like that but does do B&E.
Joker9125
QUOTE (kevyn668)
Evil being the IRS...?


Yes the IRS is evil. Anyone who has been audited will attest to that. biggrin.gif
Nikoli
They also wield too much power for a government contractor
Number 6
I've been kinda thinking about this with my elf face. He got a full set of skillwires for runs, but all his regular skills focus around being a business savy elven noble. With a voice modulator and retinal duplication you can go from Joe Stock Exchange to Kid Shadowrunner, with different Platinum credstick ID, in under 6 seconds.

If you wanna be really subtle carry a few sets of Retinal Tailors and Fingerprint Mappers.
CircuitBoyBlue
Whatever. As far as government agencies go, the IRS is one of the least objectionable. If it weren't for them, the government would have no money, and I like things like roads and education.
Crimsondude 2.0
Sadly, it's generally U.S. Marshals that tax-avoiding (After working for Treas, I would sooner slit my throat than give them a modicum of respect by calling them "resisters") assholes attack and/or kill when the Marshals serve papers on thes fucktards.

Ironically, Robert Forsyth, U.S. Marshal for the District of Georgia, was the very first federal law enforcement officer to be killed in the line of duty--serving civil papers.

Personally, Christian evangelicals are miles beyond the IRS in their ability and willingness to do evil on the world--their leaders especially so.
Kanada Ten
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Crimsondude 2.0
Personally, Christian evangelicals are miles beyond the IRS in their ability and willingness to do evil on the world--their leaders especially so.

Which is why the Children of the Dragon and its splinter are so scarey (it is also the punch line to the Universal Brotherhood parody, but I digress).

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Crimsondude 2.0
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Panzergeist
Yeah, I'm playing a Lone Star campaign now. And I've always wanted to play an FBI campaign.

Why? So you can ignore evidence and intimidate people?

How is that different that a Lone Star game? IMO, the main advantage to playing the FBI is the wider jurisdiction and more complex enemies. They had a pilot show called Red Sky (maybe?) that was about "Fast Response" FBI agents working against the Thongs. A Chinese MP was tracking a certain criminal and became part of the crew as a special Liaison Officer. I actually liked it despite the moderate acting and special effects (on par with Total Recall the series).
Crimsondude 2.0
Because the FBI has a (underserved and BS) mythos of heroism and integrity around it that LS doesn't. They will get a pass on things local cops (even if they're LS) wouldn't.

nezumi
QUOTE (Kanada Ten)
They had a pilot show called Red Sky (maybe?) that was about "Fast Response" FBI agents working against the Thongs.

What's the FBI got against skimpy undergarments? I know we've got a conservative in office, but they're not the Upright Citizen's Brigaide.
Da9iel
QUOTE (nezumi)
QUOTE (Kanada Ten @ May 28 2004, 06:27 PM)
They had a pilot show called Red Sky (maybe?) that was about "Fast Response" FBI agents working against the Thongs.

What's the FBI got against skimpy undergarments? I know we've got a conservative in office, but they're not the Upright Citizen's Brigaide.

LOL Y'know, I hate to put words in Kanada's mouth, but maybe it's Tongs?

Seriously, guys. Thanks for all the good ideas. It's nice to know it's been successfully tried. I got some guys who have a conscience even in character. With all these options, it should work.

/edit Spelling. (Sorry Kanada.)
Kagetenshi
I'm actually running a Lone Star campaign on Dumpshock right now (Urteil). I'm not certain that my players have grasped the full implications of accountability yet… vegm.gif

~J
Crimsondude 2.0
Yes, but...

It keeps occurring to me that accountability only seems to go as far as a reporter is willing to get off their ass and do something, which is of course contingent on the victims actually coming forward and implicating cops.
Kagetenshi
That's true, but if it's actually caught on camera somewhere (and cameras are common in the Sixth World), things can get bad fast. And every reporter loves a bloodbath.

~J
CircuitBoyBlue
I'm no fan of the fuzz, but reporters are just as bad, and media moguls are even worse. I imagine in the Sixth World, it's easy for a lot of things to just disappear, even if they ARE caught on camera. Sort of like in the twenties when William Randolph Hearst tried to kill Charlie Chaplin and hit some up and coming starlet instead. Nothing ever happened because he owned all the newspapers. If the powers that be want to victimize you, you WILL be victimized, and nothing will be done about it.
Number 6
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
That's true, but if it's actually caught on camera somewhere (and cameras are common in the Sixth World), things can get bad fast. And every reporter loves a bloodbath.

That's why first priority is to shoot the cameras.
Kagetenshi
Which really looks good on the tapes. Right.

~J
Phaeton
"Smile! You're on Candid Camera!"

"*blam* Not anymore."

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Kesh
Haven't done it yet, but I'd like to. The nice part of a bounty hunter or FBI campaign is that you can send the PCs all over the UCAS: one day in Seattle, another in Vancouver, another in D.C., etc.
Crimsondude 2.0
"He was a cop, and good at his job. But then he committed the ultimate sin and testified against other cops - gone bad. Cops who tried to kill him, but got the woman he loved instead. Framed for murder, now he prowls the badlands. An outlaw hunting outlaws, a bounty hunter - a RENEGADE!"
toturi
I used to love that cheesy series... along with A-Team and others.
shadd4d
Now we just have to ask ourselves where does Airwolf fit in?

Don
Squire
I have GMed in the past (and will again very soon) a campaign where the PCs are FedPol special investigators.

The compaign is mostly leg work, light on combat. They tend to show up for raids with overwhelming force, and they have to work within the confines of the law, which means where reasonable to do so they have to try to take people into custody without using force.

The challenge of the game is to solve the crime without stepping over the legal boundaries. The PCs are much more restrained than shadowrunners. It's a real challenge.

They get a salary which supports a lifestyle- no matter how the cases turn out, the salary doesn't change (unless they get themselves suspended). Equipment is simply assigned to them from supply. The goal is not to gain wealth or get upgrades, it's to solve the crime.

Very different style of play, but it works nicely if you've got the right players.
Crimsondude 2.0
QUOTE (shadd4d)
Now we just have to ask ourselves where does Airwolf fit in?

Don

Rigger company men.
toturi
QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0)
QUOTE (shadd4d @ May 31 2004, 11:06 AM)
Now we just have to ask ourselves where does Airwolf fit in?

Don

Rigger company men.

Along with Viper and Knight Rider.
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