Sorry about the scatology, but it's true! I mean this urinal we have at work is perfectly troll sized! Have you seen anything else in your daily life that is ready for the SR future in one way or another?

Are you talking about one of those trough-style ones like they have at the baseball games? Also I suppose a troll could save some nuyen if he went to one of those "If you eat it all, its free" restaraunts. Probably not too many around in the sixth world though.

All I know is I feel for my Troll brethren, at 6'2" most cars are uncomfortable, I shudder to think how they feel.

Nope. I mean an individual 3 feet wide by 5 feet tall urinal. It's freakishly large for just one person.

The buffet would probably cost more for trolls. Sort of like charging more for adults than for children. When I run a game, trolls got it tough.

N

I've seen those, it's like your own private porcelin waterfall.

Any chance you can give us a picture of this freakish urinal?

~J

That's my point. I'm 4 inches taller than most of the designs are spec'd for, this includes kitchens, mass transit, counter tops, cubicles, chairs, etc. My back hurts when I try to help out around the house, because I have to hunch over for long periods. Trolls got it much worse than the orcs. who cares if you can soak anti-materiel weaponry if your day to day life sucks because everything is meant for someone 2/3rd your height.

You have to think that the avg. height that things are built for is going to have to go up. I mean, beyond Trolls, Elves and Orks are generally taller than humans by a good few inches, and they make up a significant percentage of the population. Plus, have you seen the % breakdown of metatypes in SoNA for the UCAS? Trolls are a whopping 7% - there are now more Trolls in the UCAS than Dwarves! That right there has got to affect things.

I can relate. I'm 6'0 and my head scrapes the roof of a lot of cars. It must suck for trolls.

I wanna know how trolls are infiltrating most corp-facilities. Sure they make great munchkins, but at 9'4" on average, there just ain't any way you're gonna be stealthy about a lot of stuff


How many GM's out there play up the inconvenience of being a troll inside a corp facility. Most buildings today, are built with a 8ft ceiling, 9ft on the occaision but very rare. Why? Cause it costs a lot more money everytime you're adding height to a building. I doubt many offices would spec for 10ft ceilings. Specially cause it would mean you'd have to remodel most floors of any existing building. Most Cement Ceiling are 10ft (thus giving you 2 feet in the T-Bar for all your construction stuff. Air ducts, Plumbing, Sprinklers, Electrical...


I have joyful thoughts about a 9ft plus troll with a Dikoted Katana inside an office building getting screwed cause he can't even stand up straight, nevermind swing a sword.

Thats why I like the combat troll with a smashing blow geased to mighty bellow. That way he just smashes through everything in his way Hulk-style!

At a local diner there's a urinal that's normal sized but positioned really high. I'm 6'2 and I still don't use it for fear of getting my balls wet.

I guess that's an elf-sized urinal or something.

Assuming elves have long legs. They're like, 1.9 meters on average, right? That's like...6'3.

I think I heard of them in the UK someplace. Not sure though.

I'm 6'3" tall and a big guy. It SUCKS. I can't even get into most modern sports cars without taking off my head at the neck and setting it in my lap it seems. I have horrible posture because I have to slouch down to 6' - 6'1" to be able to sit comfortable in most place. And don't even get me started on the number of crap I bang my head into. Ceiling fans are the worst. I also wear size 16 shoes and it is IMPOSSIBLE to find shoes. I'm working right now to order a new pair and it's a pain to find something that doesn't look like I stole them from a bowling alley...and not in that cool way either.

The Abstruse One

No kidding, though I find rear hatch style doors on vans to be the worst. I think I have a permanent dent from the latch.

My high school had dwarf-sized urinals. Every restroom had one or two normal ones, and one that was mounted at roughly shin- to knee- height and maybe 1/4 the target area of a normal urinal.

The smaller area is weird, but the lower mounting is, I think, actually required by law.

~J

Sure you can, just buy a convertable and move to a desert

Well there are two problems with sports cars ... The first is the head - roof situation and the second problem would be where to put my legs.

Aside from that ... There's no desert anywhere close to germany to move to

We play up problems with trolls but in RL most people don't think about Dwarf problems. I'm 5' 1" and petite. Small but normal but for example with small hands I have trouble with some pistols and on bikes I really can't handle anything more that 750 cc engines. Also I have to get clothes in Juniors( size 6) so normal sized BDU's and stuff don't fit me properly.

And this is why trolls make bad circus clowns---even those little cars with what seems like a Bag of Holding for a cabin can barely hold them.

Even with a regular car they'd probably have to yank out most of the seats and just have one troll sized one for them to fit comfortably. Imagine a troll trying to fit into one of those small commuter cars like a Jackrabbit?

That just reminds me of the Police Academy movies (first one?), where Hightower was learning to drive, and cut this guy off... The guy gets out and is about to start threatening him, before realizing Hightower was sitting in the back seat and driving, because he was too tall for the front...

You go high, I'll go low and we'll catch 'em in between.

I can always tell when my husband's used the home computer because he's moved the seat up (he's 10" taller than I am) in height.

I'm 6'4"+. I have owned Volkswagon Beetle and bus, Mazda RX7, Chevrolet Camaro's, Corvette's, Toyota Supra and Pickup, Ford Mustang, Mustang II, and driven many, many small cars, a vintage model T Ford fire engine was real interesting. (My friend owned a used car lot.) I never had much problem getting in and out of them. There used to even be an advertisement featuring Wilt Chamberlain driving a VW bug. The only car so far that I had a problem with is an MG Midget. Not that I have driven every small car.

The problem I find is putting on the extra pounds, being less flexible, having back problems. That makes getting in and out a huge pain. But I remember being able to stretch out on long drives in the RX7 by putting it on cruise, taking off my shoes, and putting my feet past the foot pedals all the way to the firewall. Maybe some of the problem has to do with how adjustable the seat is.

Trolls are another order of magnitude bigger, so I can see them having some problems. (BtW, the guy that told me about SR called me a 'troll' and I asked him why.)

I had neck pains for a week when I tried to to get into a Camero. And it takes me a full two minutes to squeeze into a 2001 Mustang.

The Abstruse One

I've seen those tubsized urinals as well, but only in older hotels with bars. I really do think its a matter of aiming, and assuming that whoever is going to use it can't 'cas they are so sloshed. My father used to work for a small christian college that had purchused a former orphanage for its campus. Nearly all the restrooms were converted but at least one in the administration building was still, after 30 years of their having the place, designed for five year olds to be sitting on. Even when i was 12 my knees would be up at the level of my lower ribs using that toilet.

My husband has a Toyota, I drive a Saturn. He complains whenever he sits in the Saturn it's so low he feels like he's sitting in the road.