This is another poll to determine the overall market for shadowrun programs. It would be interesting to know what I'm developing for since it influences the choice of tools I use greatly.
So, vote away!
Full Version: What is your OS of choice?
I use Windows XP, because Im lazy. Although I also have instaled RedHat 9.0 and FreeBSD.
Sincerely, If I had money to spend I'll rather have a Mac for personal use.
-Gig
Sincerely, If I had money to spend I'll rather have a Mac for personal use.
-Gig
Mac, by the way, has abandoned it's OS/2 platform. The OS X is based on UNIX.
Also, anything programmed in older versions of Windows is actually quite compatible with newer versions of Windows. You'd only need to worry if you're accessing Control Panel functions, which you probably won't (unless you're doing viral code.
). VB's backwards compatibility is more troublesome than Java's, but VB progs behave like that nonetheless; just provide the corresponding VB version DLL file for the user to download (eg if you code in VB6.0, provide the MSVBN600.DLL (correct name?) file for download and instruct the user to throw it in the same directory as the program.
Do NOT program for newer versions of windows only; there are still a suprising number of people out there still running ME/98/95.
Also, anything programmed in older versions of Windows is actually quite compatible with newer versions of Windows. You'd only need to worry if you're accessing Control Panel functions, which you probably won't (unless you're doing viral code.
). VB's backwards compatibility is more troublesome than Java's, but VB progs behave like that nonetheless; just provide the corresponding VB version DLL file for the user to download (eg if you code in VB6.0, provide the MSVBN600.DLL (correct name?) file for download and instruct the user to throw it in the same directory as the program. Do NOT program for newer versions of windows only; there are still a suprising number of people out there still running ME/98/95.
I got XP running across the network right now...but microsoft decided to be nice for my 2003 MCSE/A classes and give us free copies of 2003 Enterprise with 25 client licenses...plus our place has 2 Win NT machines (older laptops), and I've got a Win CE palm computer (runs 2002...upgrading to 2003CE when I get the cash) Our new roomies gonna bring OSX Pather in with his G4 too, so we can run almost anything!
OS/2 Warp 
BeOS and NeXTStep!
~J
BeOS and NeXTStep!
~J
Ahh, good old OS/2 Warp! I still need to get that computer running again... OS/2 Forever!
These days I'm using OS X as my main platform of choice. Although, I still use FreeBSD, but not really for anything other than server stuff these days. OS X is much more than enough Unix for me on the desktop, and much better than Unix on the desktop.
So, yeah, OS of choice for me is OS X. I pretty much haven't had a need for Windows since I ran OS/2 Warp 3.
These days I'm using OS X as my main platform of choice. Although, I still use FreeBSD, but not really for anything other than server stuff these days. OS X is much more than enough Unix for me on the desktop, and much better than Unix on the desktop.
So, yeah, OS of choice for me is OS X. I pretty much haven't had a need for Windows since I ran OS/2 Warp 3.
Well I like to play videogames so I use WinXP.
Works great for me.
Works great for me.
I like running DOS on my Tablet PC.
Recently I upgraded my hardware and took the opportunity to upgrade the OS as well:
Win 98SE -> Win XP Professional (available for €5 in my university's computing center).
On my notebook I still use the Windows ME that came bundled with it.
I guess installing Win XP on a 4.5GB HDD would not be a very wise idea...
Sometimes I experiment with Knoppix (a run-from-CD Linux).
Win 98SE -> Win XP Professional (available for €5 in my university's computing center).
On my notebook I still use the Windows ME that came bundled with it.
I guess installing Win XP on a 4.5GB HDD would not be a very wise idea...
Sometimes I experiment with Knoppix (a run-from-CD Linux).
I use WinME. It is terrible but I am too tight to get XP; I will get it free in September anyway. (BEng. Hons. Entertainment Systems Software Engineering - ironically, I got onto the degree based on game-design experience)
I also use Linux for those all-too-common moments when WinME decides to delete a graphics driver-file it needs for boot-up. Actually, I would probably never use Windows, were it not for a minor Everquest addiction...
I also use Linux for those all-too-common moments when WinME decides to delete a graphics driver-file it needs for boot-up. Actually, I would probably never use Windows, were it not for a minor Everquest addiction...
As stated in the hardware thread I'm using multible OS on my workstations. Currently mainly WinXP Professional and Debian Linux (voted XP here, since there's the focus right now).
Oterh systems are usually tested with virtual machines like VM-Ware ...
Oterh systems are usually tested with virtual machines like VM-Ware ...
Um... I'm running Windows 2K which isn't on the list...
I'd say that 2K is closer to XP than it is to anything else on that list.
Yep, if you use win2000, vote for XP. I couldn't possibly include every single OS out there.
Also, if you use multiple systems, vote for the one that you use to do most of your work with or that you use most of the time. For example if you're like me (sorry, didn't wanna insult you ) and you have Linux and WinXP on your box but use XP only for gaming and some other special applications whereas linux is the system you spend most of your computer time with, vote for Linux. Or if you use several systems simultaneously vote for whatever system you would like to use your Shadowrun programs on
Also, if you use multiple systems, vote for the one that you use to do most of your work with or that you use most of the time. For example if you're like me (sorry, didn't wanna insult you
) and you have Linux and WinXP on your box but use XP only for gaming and some other special applications whereas linux is the system you spend most of your computer time with, vote for Linux. Or if you use several systems simultaneously vote for whatever system you would like to use your Shadowrun programs on
| QUOTE (GreatChicken) |
| Mac, by the way, has abandoned it's OS/2 platform. The OS X is based on UNIX. Also, anything programmed in older versions of Windows is actually quite compatible with newer versions of Windows. You'd only need to worry if you're accessing Control Panel functions, which you probably won't (unless you're doing viral code. ). VB's backwards compatibility is more troublesome than Java's, but VB progs behave like that nonetheless; just provide the corresponding VB version DLL file for the user to download (eg if you code in VB6.0, provide the MSVBN600.DLL (correct name?) file for download and instruct the user to throw it in the same directory as the program. Do NOT program for newer versions of windows only; there are still a suprising number of people out there still running ME/98/95. |
Actually MAC never used OS/2, that's IBMs Operating system for Intel-CPU's. Mac used System6/7/8/9 based on an own design for the Motorola 68xxx and the PPC units and has based the PPC only OS-X on MACH-3 with a BSD persona so it looks like Heretic-Unix (Convert to the right UNIX now, chooses System V Version 4 my son).
For some time it was a nice joke to tell someone that you used Mac-10 and a G3 for computing.
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As for backwards compatibility:
VB6 works most of the time if you develop on a granddaddy OS and port upwarts.
It fails quite often the other way round (say develop on XP and port to Win NT4SP6a [aka Win2k])
As for support of older boxes/OS:
I suggest going with something independend. QTechs GUI-Library (Used i.e in the KDE GUI on Linux) is available on multiple plattforms and IIRC free for non-commercial use. Allows you to combine C(++) and a independend GUI
Depending on the size of the stuff some scripting languages (TCL/TK) might be useful.
Or do the right thing and come to the bright side of the force. Leave the evil emperor Gates and his Dark Minion Balmer and join Master McNealy and the forces of Light. In simple terms: Use JAVA.
Birdy
Heretics always have more fun 
And how'd I manage to miss someone claiming that the classic Mac OS/Systems were OS/2 based? (I can see where the confusion could have come in, with systems 8 and after being referred to as Mac OS).
~J
And how'd I manage to miss someone claiming that the classic Mac OS/Systems were OS/2 based? (I can see where the confusion could have come in, with systems 8 and after being referred to as Mac OS).
~J
| QUOTE (Kagetenshi) |
| Heretics always have more fun And how'd I manage to miss someone claiming that the classic Mac OS/Systems were OS/2 based? (I can see where the confusion could have come in, with systems 8 and after being referred to as Mac OS). ~J |
Only until the true believers catch them
I wonder wether one can substitute heretics for DOS-Users in Step 3 Setting up a UNIX system:
1) Fast and pray for three days
2) Set up the system and install the software
3) Sacrifice a DOS User
4) Boot the system
But back to OS to support:
If you choose to go the Microsoft way (it's faster, more seductive) than by all means use VB6SP3 and an ACCESS97 MDB as a base. That way others can get at the data.
Birdy
Windows XP primarily. Although I sympathize dearly with the Linux/Open Source work ethic, it just isn't ready for the desktop (yet). Unfortunately, as long as IBM-PCs (and their clones) rule the roost, I can't see myself taking the Mac plunge, no matter how beautiful and/or intuitive it may be.
i sympathise spookymonster. and given that there is a motherboard for powerpc cpus these days (something called pegasos i belive) there is no real reason to go mac on any platform. linux runs just as well on x86 as on ppc and with pegasos you dont have to pay "apple tax" to get a ppc system 
Windows XP and 2000 Pro and Server.
Linux Fudora, ipcop, Suse and Mandrake amoungst others.
Linux Fudora, ipcop, Suse and Mandrake amoungst others.
| QUOTE (hobgoblin) |
| and given that there is a motherboard for powerpc cpus these days (something called pegasos i belive) there is no real reason to go mac on any platform. |
Except for the small reason of OSX being absolutely fucking fabulous.
But feel free to ignore that!
Oh! Hot damn, I remembered my password!
I have not been incredibly impressed with XP so far, I still prefer my 2000 build from before the Virus hit me. Do you deckers have nothing better to do that to tear apart a decent Fixer's machine who was trying to earn a mostly honest nuyen?
I have not been incredibly impressed with XP so far, I still prefer my 2000 build from before the Virus hit me. Do you deckers have nothing better to do that to tear apart a decent Fixer's machine who was trying to earn a mostly honest nuyen?
Thanks for doing this, I'll keep it in mind in the future.
[Note to self: BUILD FOR XP!!]
[Note to self: BUILD FOR XP!!]
oh yeah, and OSX does kick some serious but btw.
I sat there and watched OSX launch two more OS's off of itself. This is a mac now..."not multi-taskable" used to be it's defining phrase!
Not only that, but OSX is about as great of an attempt at solid clean coding (like the good 'ol '64s of old) that I've seen in a while.
But really...I'll continue with XP and MS for ease of mainstream software and gaming.
I sat there and watched OSX launch two more OS's off of itself. This is a mac now..."not multi-taskable" used to be it's defining phrase!
Not only that, but OSX is about as great of an attempt at solid clean coding (like the good 'ol '64s of old) that I've seen in a while.
But really...I'll continue with XP and MS for ease of mainstream software and gaming.
Gaming, fine. Mainstream software? It's there.
A translation should've read more into "my familiarity of MSOS versions of mainstream software and it's dealing with it."
Pilot comfort and familiarity really.
But as soon as I can afford it...I will buy my second computer. IT WILL BE A MAC!
Pilot comfort and familiarity really.
But as soon as I can afford it...I will buy my second computer. IT WILL BE A MAC!
If you coded the software in Java, you could run it on just about anything, including the Palm.
I miss my IIIC.....
I miss my IIIC.....
How can you say ME and good ol days in the same sentence?
I fixed the setting that caused this thread to get bumped whenever someone voted.
And there was much (well ... some) rejoicing. 
Thanks Adam.
Thanks Adam.
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