On page 29 on SOTA 2064 there is a John Milton quote from Paradise Lost. To whom ever wrote that: great reference and great timing. Even better. The quote was made by Pax of Ex Pacis. Frankly, the concept of Ex Pacis was cool before. That Pax quotes Milton is now even better.

That is all. Nothing else to see here. Move along.

/me reminds himself that it's only a game

Edit: just thought the forum was a good place to throw out some props. BTW, it's in Book 3 of Paradise Lost if you want to read the context: http://www.literature.org/authors/milton-j...chapter-03.html

"Brilliantly, these angels fell, burning with the fires of Orc..."

Who cares if there's a buried ellipsis, where it doesn't alter the sense of the thing? Once in the public domain, quotes have always been mutable: just check out how many versions you'll find of, oh, Santayana's.

I'd just like to express a vote of appreciation for writing which, more than just cold and isolated fact, brings across the breadth and depth of something living. That's what we learned to love in the old Shadowrun books. Anyone remember the beautiful cultural depths of the Laughing Man / Ambrose exchange in Virtual Realities 2? Until now, in v.3, by and large we've seen only pale shadows of it ... but for the first time this shows real potential.

(It was perhaps inevitable that those who seek out only rules and absolutes would object vigorously and sometimes viciously to anything for in-game use that could not be quantified: but for now human beings remain more than a collection of quantifiable abilities and interactions, and I see no reason why meta-beings should be any different.)

Now, if only we could get a return of the time-stamps, if only for the subtleties of cross-temporal interaction and later cross-referencing based on what was known (or should have been known) when something was said, Shadowrun life would be perfect

Well, there was also RA: S, which also reflects something that I had forgotten about Dave and Brian--just how f-ing evil they are.

RA: S is another good example because it also contained literary quotes. Which intrigued me because Dr. Sherman Huang, among his other talents, has a doctorate degree in Elizabethan literature.

Just as a side note, Milton is more likely referring to the sea monster of Charlemagne legend rather than the humanoid Orc we're more familar with (thanks to Mr. Tolkien).

Actually, the quote is from "Bladerunner" and is a intentional misquote of a poem by Willam Blake, not Milton.

The original quote, from America: A Prophecy, is: "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc"