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Kyuhan
So I was just watching The Transporter and there's a part where
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Anyhow, would the Adhesion power listed in the Shadowrun Supplemental keep you from slipping on ice, oil, other frictionless surfaces etc.? Opinions?
Botch
If it is a frizzable or liquid surface then no.

Oil - No, you'll just standing in oil with oil stuck to your feet.
Ice - Maybe if it is dry, sliping on ice is mainly because of surface water.
Frictionless surfaces - If it is a solid low-fric surface then yes, if it has a liquid-like coating then no.

I could be talking out of the arse as I don't have the power desc. in front of me.
Kyuhan
The description is basically just sticking to stuff Spider-Man style.
Kagetenshi
Arguably adhesion and oil would make it much worse on the adept, as the oil would adhere to anything that touched it until washed off, creating slippery conditions for some time after leaving the area of spill.

With ice, slipping on ice is mainly because of surface water yes, but surface water is mostly there because the pressure of a footfall melts the very top of the ice. Traceless Walk would work, Adhesion would not under your philosophy IMO.

~J
Shanshu Freeman
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
Arguably adhesion and oil would make it much worse on the adept, as the oil would adhere to anything that touched it until washed off, creating slippery conditions for some time after leaving the area of spill.

With ice, slipping on ice is mainly because of surface water yes, but surface water is mostly there because the pressure of a footfall melts the very top of the ice. Traceless Walk would work, Adhesion would not under your philosophy IMO.

~J

what about the two together?
Ol' Scratch
How do you stick to something you're not really even touching? Traceless Walk is kinda-sort-not-really a form of Levitation.
Kagetenshi
Adhesion+Traceless Walk? The ice wouldn't melt because of Traceless Walk, so it would depend on ambient temperature. If the ice isn't already melting for some reason, I'd say walk away, not that Adhesion would really matter in that event.

Though the Doc does raise a cogent point.

~J
toturi
You know you could have just used Rooting from MitS? You could have Traceless and Rooting at the same time, it's magic, man.
Ol' Scratch
Rooting doesn't allow you to move. Hence the name of the power.
toturi
I thought he was going to Root while not moving to prevent from falling and Traceless so he does not leave any trace. Apparently I was wrong.
Kagetenshi
So many dirty jokes…

~J
toturi
All unintended, I assure you. biggrin.gif
Thistledown
I've seen a lot of people take adhesion and traceless walk togather. Works great. I think adhesion was described as being similar to magnetism, but also worked on non-metalic objects. If that is the case, then having something between you and the surface (ie: oil on concrete, water on ice, etc) wouldn't have any more affect than having a piece of paper between the magnet and the refrigerators stops it from sticking.

Also, traceless walk isn't a problem, because magnetisim can work at a limited distance without much trouble, especially very close distances.
Botch
Have you ever noticed that a fridge magnet is hard to pull off the door, but easy to slide? By that logic the adepts feet wouldn't come off the floor whilst being unable to not perform the splits, ouch!
hyzmarca
That depends on friction. On a surface with a high coefficient of friction a magnet would be very difficult to slide. The adept just needs a good pair of cleats.
Kagetenshi
Which would accomplish most of what Adhesion does in the first place…

~J
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