Kyuhan
Nov 26 2004, 04:13 PM
So I was just watching The Transporter and there's a part where
[ Spoiler ]
he's fighting a bunch of guys while they're all covered in oil and he gets these spike things on the bottom of his shoes to keep from slipping.
Anyhow, would the Adhesion power listed in the Shadowrun Supplemental keep you from slipping on ice, oil, other frictionless surfaces etc.? Opinions?
Botch
Nov 26 2004, 05:07 PM
If it is a frizzable or liquid surface then no.
Oil - No, you'll just standing in oil with oil stuck to your feet.
Ice - Maybe if it is dry, sliping on ice is mainly because of surface water.
Frictionless surfaces - If it is a solid low-fric surface then yes, if it has a liquid-like coating then no.
I could be talking out of the arse as I don't have the power desc. in front of me.
Kyuhan
Nov 26 2004, 05:56 PM
The description is basically just sticking to stuff Spider-Man style.
Kagetenshi
Nov 26 2004, 06:09 PM
Arguably adhesion and oil would make it much worse on the adept, as the oil would adhere to anything that touched it until washed off, creating slippery conditions for some time after leaving the area of spill.
With ice, slipping on ice is mainly because of surface water yes, but surface water is mostly there because the pressure of a footfall melts the very top of the ice. Traceless Walk would work, Adhesion would not under your philosophy IMO.
~J
Shanshu Freeman
Nov 26 2004, 11:30 PM
QUOTE (Kagetenshi) |
Arguably adhesion and oil would make it much worse on the adept, as the oil would adhere to anything that touched it until washed off, creating slippery conditions for some time after leaving the area of spill.
With ice, slipping on ice is mainly because of surface water yes, but surface water is mostly there because the pressure of a footfall melts the very top of the ice. Traceless Walk would work, Adhesion would not under your philosophy IMO.
~J |
what about the two together?
Ol' Scratch
Nov 26 2004, 11:34 PM
How do you stick to something you're not really even touching? Traceless Walk is kinda-sort-not-really a form of Levitation.
Kagetenshi
Nov 26 2004, 11:34 PM
Adhesion+Traceless Walk? The ice wouldn't melt because of Traceless Walk, so it would depend on ambient temperature. If the ice isn't already melting for some reason, I'd say walk away, not that Adhesion would really matter in that event.
Though the Doc does raise a cogent point.
~J
toturi
Nov 27 2004, 01:39 AM
You know you could have just used Rooting from MitS? You could have Traceless and Rooting at the same time, it's magic, man.
Ol' Scratch
Nov 27 2004, 01:43 AM
Rooting doesn't allow you to move. Hence the name of the power.
toturi
Nov 27 2004, 02:12 AM
I thought he was going to Root while not moving to prevent from falling and Traceless so he does not leave any trace. Apparently I was wrong.
Kagetenshi
Nov 27 2004, 02:19 AM
So many dirty jokes…
~J
toturi
Nov 27 2004, 02:59 AM
All unintended, I assure you.
Thistledown
Nov 27 2004, 08:31 AM
I've seen a lot of people take adhesion and traceless walk togather. Works great. I think adhesion was described as being similar to magnetism, but also worked on non-metalic objects. If that is the case, then having something between you and the surface (ie: oil on concrete, water on ice, etc) wouldn't have any more affect than having a piece of paper between the magnet and the refrigerators stops it from sticking.
Also, traceless walk isn't a problem, because magnetisim can work at a limited distance without much trouble, especially very close distances.
Botch
Nov 29 2004, 06:28 PM
Have you ever noticed that a fridge magnet is hard to pull off the door, but easy to slide? By that logic the adepts feet wouldn't come off the floor whilst being unable to not perform the splits, ouch!
hyzmarca
Nov 29 2004, 09:52 PM
That depends on friction. On a surface with a high coefficient of friction a magnet would be very difficult to slide. The adept just needs a good pair of cleats.
Kagetenshi
Nov 29 2004, 09:58 PM
Which would accomplish most of what Adhesion does in the first place…
~J
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