Anyhoo just something I thought of, discuss amongst yourselves.
Full Version: Bugs vs Cyberzombies
Any one have an instance of a one on one bizarre encounter like this? Is there any mention in the SR world of the reaction of one to the other? We all know that regular awakened critters and spirits shun them and astrally projecting characters take punishment if they pass through one. How would bugs spirits react to one? What if a dormant bug spirit was in range of a cyber zombie?
Anyhoo just something I thought of, discuss amongst yourselves.
Anyhoo just something I thought of, discuss amongst yourselves.
If it were astral-only, I'd have the spirit (and several more)get sucked into the zombie, then have a severe case of MPD.
I think the insect spirit would probably have about the same reaction as Bugs have toe everything else--which is to say, none at all, until directed by the shaman or queen. I don't think that an insect could be invested into a cyberzombie, so I would expect that that the shaman/queen would try to destroy the 'zombie, if they saw it as a threat. Most magically active things percieve cyberzombies as threats.
I don't think spirits become trapped inside cyberzombies unless they succeed in possessing the 'zombie.
I don't know much about the dormant bugs.
I don't think spirits become trapped inside cyberzombies unless they succeed in possessing the 'zombie.
I don't know much about the dormant bugs.
Maybe they're natural enemies. We might have another addition to the venerable list including pirates vs. ninja, samurai vs. knight, physad vs. streetsam, etc.
~J
~J
"Cyberzombie vs. Bugs" sounds like a good addition to the New Year's Eve Debate '04 possiblities. 
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What is this and how do I become part of it?
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Well if thats the case. I vote for something else. Does anyone feel passionately about
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? Nice little intellectual work out but hardly on the order of humans vs. horrors. BTW that thread is starting up again.
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I think they already made a movie like this. They called it "Alien vs. Predator" IIRC. 
Ok, so insect spirits would be nonplussed about a cyberzombie.
How about a squad of cyberzombies, attackin' the hive and the queen?
How about a squad of cyberzombies, attackin' the hive and the queen?
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| How about a squad of cyberzombies, attackin' the hive and the queen? |
Then it will be reacted to with the same general method as any other threat. Attempt to crush the intruders with the mindless servants to protect the queen. Depending on the queen's knowledge of technology, the tactic may be to send workers out to use up ammunition, with some sorcery-capable servants using something like animate to maximize the bullet-absorbtion of each worker ("if it moves shoot it" isn't always the best course).
If the squad is designed specifically to kill the hive, and is theoretically tough enough that they don't need to react to the horde sent at them, the queen had better start packing or hope that there's a few warriors tougher than the CZ designers expected.
Presumably the Hive should win. If the Queen invested in a Flesh Form Worker with a tactical computer(assuming that the cyberware functions; I do not read anything that indicates otherwise) and a SUT skill as well as other Flesh Form Soldiers with Battle Tac cyber(again assuming cyber still works for Flesh Forms). Even better yet, have those Soldier Fleshforms be cyber implanted Para-animals.
1 tactical center, a couple of Demon Rat Flesh Forms summoning more Devil Rats and normal Rats as well as trhe Queen summoning insects. Overwhelm via numbers.
1 tactical center, a couple of Demon Rat Flesh Forms summoning more Devil Rats and normal Rats as well as trhe Queen summoning insects. Overwhelm via numbers.
Well, pretty much anything in terms of spirits hates Cyberzombies, as they're abominations of magic.
Take that to insect spirits, which have a few more violent tendancies, and then it all depends on the force of the spirit and what the Cyberzombie can do.
So, in essence (no pun intended), yes.
Take that to insect spirits, which have a few more violent tendancies, and then it all depends on the force of the spirit and what the Cyberzombie can do.
So, in essence (no pun intended), yes.
It would be fun to watch though. (from a safe distance, with a very twisted mind.)
Flesh form Cyberzombies, just for the look on the player's faces when the GM says "The humanoid seems to have a gyromounted minigun where its tail should be."
We should be making friends with the Bugs. They can help against the Horrors after all.
Yes, I suggest you do that. I'll be cheering you on…
…from the MOON…
…of Mars (Deimos, to be exact)…
…after it has already been converted to a colony ship and is well on its way to Tau Ceti.
~J
…from the MOON…
…of Mars (Deimos, to be exact)…
…after it has already been converted to a colony ship and is well on its way to Tau Ceti.
~J
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| Yes, I suggest you do that. I'll be cheering you on… …from the MOON… …of Mars (Deimos, to be exact)… …after it has already been converted to a colony ship and is well on its way to Tau Ceti. ~J |
Yeah, erm, you do that.
*edge*
*edge further*
*mad dash*
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| We should be making friends with the Bugs. They can help against the Horrors after all. |
You go do that... in fact why don't you be the first to go initiate contact with the bugs for peace talks. Meanwhile, I'll be watching how the meeting goes via teleconference... I'll record it too. It should make a killing when it's sold on the web.
Wusses!
You've just been listening to Bitten too often again Fortune.
But then you were probably around the last time the horrors came so maybe you have a point...
But then you were probably around the last time the horrors came so maybe you have a point...
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| Yes, I suggest you do that. I'll be cheering you on… …from the MOON… …of Mars (Deimos, to be exact)… …after it has already been converted to a colony ship and is well on its way to Tau Ceti. ~J |
Another Marathon fan, looks like.
Plan on takin' a few cyborgs with you on your way?
Nine Mjolnir Mark IV military cyborgs for the colonies, and maybe one spare for good measure…
~J
~J
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| But then you were probably around the last time the horrors came ... |
You've been peeking at my wrinkles again.
I am going with natural enemies here
Cyberzombies are created with Horror style blood magic... the effect is not dissimi9lar to a horror mark.
Horrors and bugs are natural antagonists to each other
2+2 = 4
Cyberzombies are created with Horror style blood magic... the effect is not dissimi9lar to a horror mark.
Horrors and bugs are natural antagonists to each other
2+2 = 4
i think peeks at fortune's wrinklies is a subject for another forum completely !!
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Besides competing for the same hunting grounds, what makes you say that? Perhaps they've learned to use metahumanity peacefully along side each other.
testimony from the bugs themselves in House of the sun and in various earthdawn books Bugs are prey for horrors
I should have guessed. EVERYTHING is prey to one Horror or another...
Even gnashers can be tasty with the right BBQ sauce.
I found them better with a cheese sauce
I'm imaging a column of cyberzombies walking in a straight line towards this big hive all steadily firing LMGs from the hip as all these insect spirits explode before them.
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| I'm imaging a column of cyberzombies walking in a straight line towards this big hive all steadily firing LMGs from the hip as all these insect spirits explode before them. |
The footages of the battle will be repackaged into the new hit selling sim 'Against the Hive 2: Universal Soldiers Attack!'
*well, yeah, the cyberzombies are more or less like the movie Universal Soldiers... more or less... kinda... sorta...
you want universal soldier
combine skillwires
P-Fix chips
and shedim
stir well and serve
combine skillwires
P-Fix chips
and shedim
stir well and serve
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| stir well and serve |
shaken, not stirred...
Bugs vs CZ's? easy. My money's on the rabbit.
Everyone always bets on the rabbit. You gotta go for the turtle.
Modern design? Streamline?
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shaken, not stirred... |
But that waters it down.
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| Bugs vs CZ's? easy. My money's on the rabbit. |
If the rabbit is the psychopathic bunny called Bun-Bun (Or Mr. Bunny according to John Ringo), then I view him in the same class as Horrors myself.
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| Everyone always bets on the rabbit. You gotta go for the turtle. |
You mean the Teenage Mutant Ninja kind?
Yeah, sure, in a heartbeat!
Turtle Power!
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If the rabbit is the psychopathic bunny called Bun-Bun (Or Mr. Bunny according to John Ringo), then I view him in the same class as Horrors myself. |
Bun-Bun is in another category altogether. Think along the same lines as Cthulu, except that Cthulu is les skilled with a switchblade.
I, however, put my money on the animated beefsteak in the robo-suit.
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If the rabbit is the psychopathic bunny called Bun-Bun (Or Mr. Bunny according to John Ringo), then I view him in the same class as Horrors myself. |
No, I mean a bunny named 'Bugs.'
Ehhh, whazzup, doc?
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No, I mean a bunny named 'Bugs.' |
Booo. Worst Pun ever 'Fox.
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Booo. Worst Pun ever 'Fox. |
Great. Saying that is just challenging the dumpshock community to come up with more pun-ishing ones than that.
This could get ugly.
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No, I mean a bunny named 'Bugs.' |
Jumpin' jesus, my brain is bleeding again...
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No, I mean a bunny named 'Bugs.' |
*wince* Oooo that smarts. ya knon, you're almost as bad as a telemarketer...and you know how Bun-Bun feels about telemarketers...
LOL!!! Bugs vs Bun-Bun, a true Bugs vs. Horrors contest! who would win?
Bun-Bun would join the Horrors. You know that Giftbringer would give all humans bits of the Baywatch Perfect Edition.
~J
~J
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