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Full Version: Jack Slater
Acquired Headhunter a while back, and really liked the characters. Can someone list me the Jack Slater books? I tried a quick Google for his name, and after half a dozen death metal lyrics sites and a porn star (!) I figured I'd be better off asking you guys (and forum searches are just nasty on 56k )
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Preying for keeps and headhunters are the two I know of. I think it's just the two.
I like how Slater pulls off being a sammy with minimal cyber
I like how Slater pulls off being a sammy with minimal cyber
Offhand, I think they include Run Hard Die Fast and Preying For Keeps, but I'm not sure.
Google for Odom and Shadowrun for more info.
Google for Odom and Shadowrun for more info.
Are you sure it's "Slater" and not "Skater"? I could have sworn it is "Skater".
And I think Run Hard, Die Fast was Argent and his crew. Again, I could be wrong.
And I think Run Hard, Die Fast was Argent and his crew. Again, I could be wrong.
RHDF does appear to be Argent. Shame, I was hoping for more of that bunch.
I'll throw a blurb in for some of his other works. He wrote a fantastic book about sailing vessels and deep sea monsters. Excellent characterizations, good read.
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| RHDF does appear to be Argent. Shame, I was hoping for more of that bunch. |
The decker from his crew hooks up with Argent's crew in the novel.
But, frankly, you'd be better off not wasting your time reading it.
Preying for Keeps is basically a crappy version of Fade to Black in my opinion. If I recall correctly, they both have a cybered human leader, dwarven rigger, elven female decker, trog meatshield (troll in one, orc in the other), and a human spellslinger. In about every case the characters are better developed and more interesting in Fade to Black (especially Bandit, the racoon shaman).
-Joe
-Joe
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| And I think Run Hard, Die Fast was Argent and his crew. Again, I could be wrong. |
Yeah. I was just throwing Odom books out there. Odom didn't do Argent justice, in my opinion.
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| Are you sure it's "Slater" and not "Skater"? I could have sworn it is "Skater". And I think Run Hard, Die Fast was Argent and his crew. Again, I could be wrong. |
Its "Skater."
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| Preying for Keeps is basically a crappy version of Fade to Black in my opinion. If I recall correctly, they both have a cybered human leader, dwarven rigger, elven female decker, trog meatshield (troll in one, orc in the other), and a human spellslinger. In about every case the characters are better developed and more interesting in Fade to Black (especially Bandit, the racoon shaman). |
I thought Fade to Black sucked. But that's my opinion
edit: and I thought Bandit was the worst of the lot. He's whole "I carry cigs to blend in but I never inhale..." schtick was pure bullshit. He'd stick out like a sore thumb.
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| edit: and I thought Bandit was the worst of the lot. He's whole "I carry cigs to blend in but I never inhale..." schtick was pure bullshit. He'd stick out like a sore thumb. |
His intention in carrying the cigarettes was to blend in--the author didn't presume to indicate whether it was successful or not. I think that the fact that he made the attempt shows something of his self perception and motivations... a depth of character you're not likely to find in Preying for Keeps. His oddity gives a sense of what it means to be called on and influenced by a totem, something that most PCs should try to do rather than just grab up totem modifiers.
-Joe
Personally I thought Jack Skater was quite a well-rounded character in what are fairly cool books. I am also very strongly of the opinion that Fade to Black was very cool but Striper Assasin and Who Hunts the Hunted are the two best books in Shadowrun. I can see how other might not like Mr Smith's work but I feel they are superb in terms of atmosphere, which is something that every game needs.
I think I know a point we can all agree on, however. Does everyone agree that Lisa Smedman should have kept smoking whatever she was on when she wrote her Shadowrun books and not ever put finger to keyboard? She cannot write and she did her very, level best to murder the setting.
I think I know a point we can all agree on, however. Does everyone agree that Lisa Smedman should have kept smoking whatever she was on when she wrote her Shadowrun books and not ever put finger to keyboard? She cannot write and she did her very, level best to murder the setting.
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| I think I know a point we can all agree on, however. Does everyone agree that Lisa Smedman should have kept smoking whatever she was on when she wrote her Shadowrun books and not ever put finger to keyboard? She cannot write and she did her very, level best to murder the setting. |
You mean Lisa "heavy-handed foreboding" Smedman? By the time I was halfway through Blood Sport I wanted to throttle her. Every section ended with some gloomily portentous utterance from the narrator. Sadly I was moving house at the time, all my books were packed in storage, and the only stuff I had to read was what came from the local charity shops.
Oddly enough, first thing I thought was "Wasnt that the name of the guy Arnold played in Last Action Hero?"
That's because his character's name was Jack Slater in that piece of crap.
Oh hey, be fair, he spent an hour and a half taking the piss out of himself (as opposed to having everyone else do it 
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And Charles Dance was hysterical as the villain.
Dance: Excuse me, I wonder if you could help me with a small experiment,
Bit Part: Sure
Dance: (shoots him) Hello? I just killed a man?
)And Charles Dance was hysterical as the villain.
Dance: Excuse me, I wonder if you could help me with a small experiment,
Bit Part: Sure
Dance: (shoots him) Hello? I just killed a man?
It's a shame he didn't stopped sucking balls afterwards.
And the movie still sucked.
And the movie still sucked.
By the way Jack Slater is actually a cool death metal band from cologne, germany. Just released a new album called "metzgore". Up the irons!
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