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Akai Sokata
so yo check it out. can you wire a remote deck and cyber deck togther so it becomes one unit. I figured use a data line tap to cross connect them right. then write up a driver program and softwear so you can issue orders from the matrix. im sure some sort of mods will come into play if you do both at the same time. I was just wondering cause I play both a rigger and decker and then there was so manytimes I wish I could do both at the same time.
The Grifter
I assume you could connect the decks, but rigging and decking work using different areas of the brain. While decking from the Matrix, you're using the higher portion of your brain. While rigging, the lower portion of the brain is used.

Case in point, you could write up the program to do it, but you wouldn't be decking or rigging effeciently.
Akai Sokata
thats what I kinda figured. so good news is I only have to carry one kinda heavy computer insted of two. but I think your right. I could do it it. but not well. thanks
The Grifter
Null persp, chummer. Hey, what with SR4 coming out, you might be able to rig and "hack" at the same time. LOL.
Akai Sokata
Oh drek chummer don't get started on that agine. when it comes to that im super fly TNT. I AM the guns of the navaho. god damn that pisses me off yo. I swear any SOB calls me a hacker im going to explode on them. but I dont know, depends on how bad they change the rules.
GrinderTheTroll
QUOTE (The Grifter)
I assume you could connect the decks, but rigging and decking work using different areas of the brain. While decking from the Matrix, you're using the higher portion of your brain. While rigging, the lower portion of the brain is used.

Where did you read this?
Eyeless Blond
Um, just about everywhere rigging and decking are mentioned, anywhere? Rigging is using the midbrain's ability, or more precisely, the cerebellum's, to coordinate between the different factors that keep a vehicle going, while decking is using your cerebrum, the forebrain, to issue commands and analyze things. They're very different functions--the rigging angle focuses on integrating stimuli and responses, while the decking angle focuses on differentiating between stimuli and picking apart multiple disparate actions occuring simultaneusly--which is why riggers with an active VCR get penalties while decking (p. 28 Matrix).

(Edit): Hell, they even mention the difference when noting that deckers typically have jacks implanted in the forehead, to access forebrain functions more easily, while riggers typically have their jacks implanted at the base of the skull, to more easily access the cerebellum.
Nikoli
Also, I remember somewhere in either the FAQ or Errata saying that the limited simsense rig for VCR interferes withthe simsense feed from a deck and to avoid this you must install a reflex trigger to shut off the VCR interference.
GrinderTheTroll
QUOTE (Nikoli)
Also, I remember somewhere in either the FAQ or Errata saying that the limited simsense rig for VCR interferes withthe simsense feed from a deck and to avoid this you must install a reflex trigger to shut off the VCR interference.

So this is what I was driving at: looking for some rule(s) that specifically said you could't do both, although the very nature of being "undead" while jacked-in is already pointing me that way.

This is also why I don't like the whole "simsense immersion" of jacking-in to either the Matrix or a VCR. Remove that silly aspect, and I don't see why doing both at the same time would be an issue.

Viva la Hacker!
mfb
there are no rules that specifically disallow it. however, trying to deck with an active VCR imposes a +8 TN modifier to your decking actions. there are no rules for how exactly you'd handle the dual simsense input, either. personally, i would allow Captain's Chair rigging while decking, but not jumping into the machine.
hahnsoo
QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll)
This is also why I don't like the whole "simsense immersion" of jacking-in to either the Matrix or a VCR. Remove that silly aspect, and I don't see why doing both at the same time would be an issue.

The main benefit of decking and rigging IS the full simsense immersion, which is what gives you the additional initiative dice and the bonuses for rigging/decking. However, if I were to choose one to be dominant, I'd probably choose vehicle rigging since you can effectively deck with just utilities and minimal hacking pool as a tortoise or using frames if you need to... rigging is difficult without the full benefits of a VCR.

The +8 Modifier is only for physical actions and Perception tests while you are overridng the RAS override (overriding the override, har har). Rigging also imposes a similar penalty on physical actions and Perception tests. There doesn't seem to be much reason for giving that penalty to decking or rigging if you are doing both, as you are using two cybernetic connections. I'd probably apply a +2 TN penalty for split attention.
Ol' Scratch
A decker with advanced drones/robots and a remote-deck would work just fine as described (issuing commands via his connection, and letting them figure out how to complete them). It's a very nice compliment, too, considering the ability to program tactics and whatnot as mentioned somewhere in Rigger 3.
Akai Sokata
I should of clarified this earlyer (but I've been away) that I've only been runing a remote deck in captain chair mode from the matrix. I think I could do that because I'm still useing the part of the brain for the matrix. also I put a reflex trigger on my VCR so Im stright you know. still any reson I shouldnt be able to do this hit me up.

AND VIVA LA DECK HEAD
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