They're not free, but they're only like 200 .

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gah, i hate word sorting. i could never wrap my head around it. maybe thats why i fail at language educations...

*snickers* i'm kinda good with languages . . i still curse at my own stupidity for not taking another in school <.< . .

If I am not mistaken, theywere the pawns of Alamaise to try and sabotage Lofwyr's works. Ideologically, they were hardcore neoanarchists (propably why they chose a name that really makes no sense at all. Their heads having been French, if I remember Night's Pawn correctly, might have helped there too.)

Anyway, I guess this is more about early SR's odd fascination with Germany and, specifically, Germany words. Note the Dragon Haesslich (ugly), an odd castle siege in the first trilogy's climax, more scenes in German castles (personally, I guess Tom Dowd spent a number of times in the upper rhine valley, where you cannot throw a stone without hitting some sort of castle ruins). It's also worth noting this stopped rather abruptly when the Germany SB came out, propably because it wasn't only crap as is but started out with the worst source book chapter on anything in SR history (which does have a number of lows). Must've cured them or something. Granted, Germany II cleaned up a number of messes somewhat, and the first German-only book (the austrian WPSI) already did some work on Berlin, but .... meh. The only way to save the Berlin setting is nuking it from existence, if you ask me.

But, to remotely contribute to the topics above ...


Mark Twain once supposedly said:
It takes a few weeks to learn English, a few months to learn French, and at leats a lifetime to learn German.

So don't bother yourself too much. Two out of four cases in German aren't something the majority of the Germans can use correctly. Which does include journalists, politicans, and scientists.

sadly enough, that's more true than you probably think . .
in my last school, we had a teacher who was supposed to tutor us in speech and communication(read: german) . .
he was born and raised in spain, his native tongue/language was not german but spanish and he only studied germanistics in university . . so we basically got a book-learned spanish guy to teach us german <.< . . no wonder my grades went from straight A to C's and D's because he had no clue what i was hinting at most of the time -.-
but at least german isn't the kind of language that knocks out other languages in dark corners of the streets and pilfers through their pockets like english ^^

its mostly a case of being unable to classify words for some reason or other. it had enough trouble with the four classes of words found in norwegain...

still, i guess it could have something to do with aspergers or however its spelled. always fun to find out stuff like that, about 20 years to late...

Fun! Though, at universites, it sometimes gets even better, when you have to take courses in English being held by a German professor whose German sounds like straight out of a WW2 movie, and where the tutors are russians whose English is even worse, but who will yell at you if you ask him to repeat stuff because he feels he is aq true master of the language, so obviously, if you can't understand him you're stupid.

And NOW imagine you're a Chinese student who actually came to Germany to study because she learned her ass off to have somewhat decent German, but knows zero English! Fun²!


Oh, German only has four cases too. Pity they follow no consistent rules, like plurals don't either. And even worse that half the time Germans use cases they get them wrong.

of course we talk like they do in the WW2 movies . . they made the movies after our image! . .
but to be honest, we still talk like they did in WW1, because our language did not change as much as far as i know . . which, admittedly, is not much *g*
and heck, i know some people in Japan and they are not as bad in german as some of the people living here <.< . .
as for the rules:"only the stupid need rules, the genius rules over chaos!" ^^

Uhm ...


It does change. Ask the Gesellschaft Deutsche Sprache or whatever the grammar nazis are called again. Yes. Grammar nazis. In all seriousness. They do exist.


Well, if you make it through their schools alive, you're bound to be good in whatever they taught you ... especially repetitive stuff like grammar, where all you really have to do is hammer rules into your head.

Nice too.

Or ... not. Whatever. You get the idea.