Full Version: The Found Arcana - Chapter 13 [OOC]
Wow, Beta you could have an armed flying eye? wow I didn't know that.
PS: Jack any update from Trouble?
QUOTE (Gilga @ Aug 6 2025, 08:42 PM) 
Wow, Beta you could have an armed flying eye? wow I didn't know that.
Using the rules in Rigger 5 much is possible. On the Flying Eyes I took away a point of handling to get a modification point, which was enough for something small like a taser (at least by the rules -- how geometry of fitting four darts in there works I'm not sure. I like to think that it uses its air jets to launch the darts somehow
I really didn't think that any weapon with any real degree of recoil would make sense for something just balanced on air jets.Technically the Kanmushi could even carry a single dart, but that seemed to stretch things a little far for me so I didn't go for that. I think that by the rules that would be one of the cheaper ways to get a deadly one-shot swarm, a bunch of Kanmushis (at 500nY each) each with a single dart, for 10knY you would be able somewhere in the upper 20s in attack dice, depending on how good your targeting autosoft is and how good the pilot rating of the swarm coordinator is (or RCC).
I play a sort of "rigger" Tamarind style in a f2f Shadowrun team. Driver/remote piloting usually just a single drone on direct control. So I started paying attention to drones again.
I might try to borrow the idea unless the GM smacks me with the rule book. I use a rotodrone as my armed drone and have kept the flying eyes and other little drones unarmed but with a taser or even something with Narcojet or some of these stuff that makes you go to sleep the minidrones can become insane for tactical options.
I might try to borrow the idea unless the GM smacks me with the rule book. I use a rotodrone as my armed drone and have kept the flying eyes and other little drones unarmed but with a taser or even something with Narcojet or some of these stuff that makes you go to sleep the minidrones can become insane for tactical options.
My long time character Isaint had a case of six Ruger Super War hawks mounted on Noizquitos. Took a bit of tinkering, but with a swarm autosoft and a decent RCC they were pretty effective - especially with ammo select mods on the weapons
Alright, let's see...
Rachel will use Increase Charisma (just buying the hits) during the shopping trip and switch back to Increase Intuition once they continue on their way.
- Armor Jacket (AV 2; 1,000¥) -- Negotiation 5 hits -- 800¥ (double for leather?)
- Securetech PPP (AV 6; 900¥) -- Negotiation 7 hits -- 630¥
- Microwire (100m) (50¥) -- Negotiation 8 hits -- 35¥
- Rappeling Gloves (50¥) -- Negotiation 0 hits -- 80¥
- Respirator 6 (300¥) -- Negotiation 8 hits -- 210¥
- Light Stick (4) (25¥) -- Negotiation 8 hits -- 70¥
- Magnesium Torch (4) (5¥) -- Negotiation 3 hits -- 20¥
- Vitamin Shots (12) -- assuming, this falls under Lifestyle expenses
Useful for everyone:
- Micro-Transceiver (AC 2; 100¥)
Raven actually has a Micro-Transceiver, already. Missed that when I was looking through her gear before. But maybe someone still needs one?
Bye
Thanee
P.S. How much more would a real leather Armor Jacket cost? The rulebook has synth-leather as an upgrade for armored clothing at +200¥, but nothing for real leather, I think. Double?
Rachel will use Increase Charisma (just buying the hits) during the shopping trip and switch back to Increase Intuition once they continue on their way.
- Armor Jacket (AV 2; 1,000¥) -- Negotiation 5 hits -- 800¥ (double for leather?)
- Securetech PPP (AV 6; 900¥) -- Negotiation 7 hits -- 630¥
- Microwire (100m) (50¥) -- Negotiation 8 hits -- 35¥
- Rappeling Gloves (50¥) -- Negotiation 0 hits -- 80¥
- Respirator 6 (300¥) -- Negotiation 8 hits -- 210¥
- Light Stick (4) (25¥) -- Negotiation 8 hits -- 70¥
- Magnesium Torch (4) (5¥) -- Negotiation 3 hits -- 20¥
- Vitamin Shots (12) -- assuming, this falls under Lifestyle expenses
Useful for everyone:
- Micro-Transceiver (AC 2; 100¥)
Raven actually has a Micro-Transceiver, already. Missed that when I was looking through her gear before. But maybe someone still needs one?
Bye
Thanee
P.S. How much more would a real leather Armor Jacket cost? The rulebook has synth-leather as an upgrade for armored clothing at +200¥, but nothing for real leather, I think. Double?
Sounds about right - quadruple it and you get a +1 increase to your social limit
Hey, I'm trying to save up for a car here... 
Bye
Thanee
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Thanee
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Her initial intention is to help Rachel but she seems to not need anything.
Yeah, I figured teamwork would be a bit overkill here.
Bye
Thanee
QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 7 2025, 05:36 PM)
Hey, I'm trying to save up for a car here...
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Thanee
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Thanee
Well, then you probably shouldn't invest in luxury items...
I'm traveling this week. I'll have my computer with me, but may be slower to respond.
Double post. Getting a lot of errors on the site again.
Yeah, same for me these last couple days.
Bye
Thanee
Bye
Thanee
@Beta:
The preparation is using the "Stealth" spell (Core Rulebook; Illusion). It is Force 10, Potency 5 and rolls 20 dice to cast the spell.
That should make you pretty much walk in silence. You should still roll Sneaking, just in case.
Also, still not an elf.
@Gilga:
I don't think we can buy hits here.
Pretty certain that applies to the current situation.
Bye
Thanee
The preparation is using the "Stealth" spell (Core Rulebook; Illusion). It is Force 10, Potency 5 and rolls 20 dice to cast the spell.
That should make you pretty much walk in silence. You should still roll Sneaking, just in case.
Also, still not an elf.
@Gilga:
I don't think we can buy hits here.
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Buying hits often should not be done if there is a chance of a glitch or critical glitch that might significantly change the course of the game’s actions.
Pretty certain that applies to the current situation.
Bye
Thanee
Yeah, this is very much a "no buying hits" situation
Ever have those times when you know you have a reasonable dice pool, but you can just feel the random number generators waiting for you to get too confident? That is where I was on this sneaking last night -- Tamarind has 11 dice in it, 3 successes should not be a problem, but all the same I was worried.
With good cause, it turns out.
I rolled her base 11 dice, then the 3 from AM's team work separately, just in case it matters -- and it shows clearly that I was right to be worried!
Sneak: 11d6t5 1
+3d sneaking from team work: 3d6t5 2
I'll come back to this post with the roll for the preparation (having some trouble with Orokos at the moment)
I had a 16 dice 0 hits roll earlier (for the shopping). Everything is possible, even though unlikely!
Hope the preparation will prove useful.
Bye
Thanee
Hope the preparation will prove useful.
Bye
Thanee
There's always the chance of a glitch as well.
I'll wait for Beta's post before describing the traversal.
I'll wait for Beta's post before describing the traversal.
I once had 2 hits on a roll of 22 dice.
Displeased, I used Edge to reroll, and got 2 hits on 20 dice.
A grand total of 4 hits on 42 dice. Approximate odds: 0.0348%, or 1 chance in 2,874.
Internet is not as reliable on my travels as expected. Things are spottier than I anticipated.
Displeased, I used Edge to reroll, and got 2 hits on 20 dice.
A grand total of 4 hits on 42 dice. Approximate odds: 0.0348%, or 1 chance in 2,874.
Internet is not as reliable on my travels as expected. Things are spottier than I anticipated.
@Jack in the stream, we found that "They started in the mall, hijacking a freight elevator in a delivery bay that took them into a subbasement. From there the team walked about a kilometer through mostly disused storage areas until they reached a thin dividing wall where they just cut through with a monofilament saw"
1) I'm guessing that "sub-basement" means well below the monorail station? (presumably one of the elevators would have shown what level)
2) In the stream is there any identification of the freight elevator, or would the only way to be sure to find the same one be to follow their route through the mall?
Tamarind will ask Gruff whether he knows ways down to the indicated sub-level, just as an option, but I wanted to confirm the above questions first.
1) I'm guessing that "sub-basement" means well below the monorail station? (presumably one of the elevators would have shown what level)
2) In the stream is there any identification of the freight elevator, or would the only way to be sure to find the same one be to follow their route through the mall?
Tamarind will ask Gruff whether he knows ways down to the indicated sub-level, just as an option, but I wanted to confirm the above questions first.
By fulfilling the extended task you have a completed map and can find alternative routes. With taking the ork underground you can now go directly to the delivery bay and follow the path from there.
Alternatively, you can try to find a better path - (Navigation test, 5 Minute interval, 30 successes)
Alternatively, you can try to find a better path - (Navigation test, 5 Minute interval, 30 successes)
OK, thanks!
What's the wireless situation while we are underground? I'm thinking mostly about it in terms of comms. Is there Matrix access, or can our commlinks communicate directly with each other (like Bluetooth), or do we need to use micro-transceivers?
QUOTE (Tecumseh @ Aug 13 2025, 07:12 PM)
What's the wireless situation while we are underground? I'm thinking mostly about it in terms of comms. Is there Matrix access, or can our commlinks communicate directly with each other (like Bluetooth), or do we need to use micro-transceivers?
Given the general rule that you can see matrix objects within a hundred meters of you (such as for detecting things running silently), plus other comments about devices connecting to each other, I've always assumed that devices automatically form a mesh, so long as they can find other matrix objects within 100 meters. In other words, I assume that the team can communicate through the matrix so long as we stay moderately close together, or make sure that we have matrix objects (such as drones) appropriately spaced as relays.
I would imagine that there would be a noise count when you are relying on fairly few matrix objects, and you are a long way to major data uplinks. However Tamarind lowers the noise by 2 points, with a 100m diameter area of effect, so likely the noise the team is experiencing is not enough to disable wireless on any reasonable quality devices.
I've always played it the same way but Jack's in charge so I figured I would ask instead of assuming one way or another.
The Arcology is - at least on the lower levels more of a spam- than a null-zone - so any noise can be compensated as normal.
The Ork Underground is a different beast alltogether - here the lack of devices and the earth blocking signals can create matrix dead zones, that are hard to compensate.
Right now in the old monorail station you are in a zero noise and zero BGC area, as there are lot's of industrial devices and few people around.
As for mesh network: Yes that's the case, but as mentioned, 5e doesn't do a great job in distinguishing between noise from distance, spam and lack of devices. Distance and spam can be compensated, lack of repeating devices will cut you off though. You can communicate with each other without problems as long as you are within 100m and there is nothing blocking signals between you.
I'll mention noise and BGC from now on whenever you enter a new area.
The Ork Underground is a different beast alltogether - here the lack of devices and the earth blocking signals can create matrix dead zones, that are hard to compensate.
Right now in the old monorail station you are in a zero noise and zero BGC area, as there are lot's of industrial devices and few people around.
As for mesh network: Yes that's the case, but as mentioned, 5e doesn't do a great job in distinguishing between noise from distance, spam and lack of devices. Distance and spam can be compensated, lack of repeating devices will cut you off though. You can communicate with each other without problems as long as you are within 100m and there is nothing blocking signals between you.
I'll mention noise and BGC from now on whenever you enter a new area.
@Beta: You probably know this, but the effect of the preparation only lasts for 5 minutes (the potency).
Bye
Thanee
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Thanee
QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 13 2025, 11:02 PM)
@Beta: You probably know this, but the effect of the preparation only lasts for 5 minutes (the potency).
Yes, I know -- Tamarind doesn't
(and I didn't think it had been that long yet, but next IC post will cover her enjoying being able to make noise again)
Garbage Internet, barely connecting. Should be back to civilization by Sunday.
Mato tiptoes along in the meantime.
Mato tiptoes along in the meantime.
Apropos bad Internet connection:
I'll be on vacation from August 26th to September 14th
Since I'll be on a safari from 30th to 4th, there won't be an posts (unless one of the lodges has wifi) and otherwise only intermittent posts, so expect a significant slowdown from my side.
I'll be on vacation from August 26th to September 14th
Since I'll be on a safari from 30th to 4th, there won't be an posts (unless one of the lodges has wifi) and otherwise only intermittent posts, so expect a significant slowdown from my side.
Sounds like fun! Which country are you visiting?
I will also be on vacation from 23rd Aug to 6th Sep. Should have internet access, though (at least in the morning and evening).
Bye
Thanee
I will also be on vacation from 23rd Aug to 6th Sep. Should have internet access, though (at least in the morning and evening).
Bye
Thanee
Tanzania - I've got some relatives there and I'm the only one in the family who hasn't visited them yet. And since they'll come back to retire in Germany in the next few years, it could be the last chance. So a once in a lifetime trip
@Jack it sounds amazing. I did a safari trip almost 30 years ago and I still remember it, even having forgotten most of my other vacations since then. I hope you have a memorable expirience.
Very cool!
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Thanee
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Thanee
@gilga
I sure hope so - it's expensive enough that I'll definitely notice it on my bank statement for a while
But what's the plan IP?
There's a door and a camera in your way
I sure hope so - it's expensive enough that I'll definitely notice it on my bank statement for a while
But what's the plan IP?
There's a door and a camera in your way
Enjoy the heck out of your trip, Jack!
I think next step is for AM to hack things -- makes no sense for Tamarind to futz around with that when they have a proper decker with them.
I think next step is for AM to hack things -- makes no sense for Tamarind to futz around with that when they have a proper decker with them.
Yes it is prudent, either that or invisibility spells.
I'm back in the land of strong WiFi. For a few days there I was on mid-1990s dial-up modem speeds. I suppose that might have been sufficient for a text-based site like Dumpshock, but even the simplest pages were agonizingly slow and I didn't want to risk losing something to a server error.
A safari in Tanzania sounds amazing. I'd be up for it; the biggest hurdle is that it would require about 24 hours of travel for me to get there. I would need a pre-vacation vacation to rest up for the journey, and then a post-vacation vacation to recover from the trip home. But fantastic that you have family there to show you around.
As for IC, hacking sounds like the obvious way forward. That said, if the parking lot is this abandoned then you wonder how much attention anyone would be paying to the camera feed. Hacking might be more important for the locked shutter. Mato can probably disable it physically, but hacking would potentially send out fewer alarms.
A safari in Tanzania sounds amazing. I'd be up for it; the biggest hurdle is that it would require about 24 hours of travel for me to get there. I would need a pre-vacation vacation to rest up for the journey, and then a post-vacation vacation to recover from the trip home. But fantastic that you have family there to show you around.
As for IC, hacking sounds like the obvious way forward. That said, if the parking lot is this abandoned then you wonder how much attention anyone would be paying to the camera feed. Hacking might be more important for the locked shutter. Mato can probably disable it physically, but hacking would potentially send out fewer alarms.
Invisibility would only help with the camera, but not with the door.
Bye
Thanee
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Thanee
@Tecumseh
Yeah, I can look forward to 12 hours of travel myself (long layover in Qatar)
How I'll survive being back in the office immediately after my return will be another story
As for the door - it's secured with an R4 mag lock
This situation is made for the use of "subvert infrastructure" - one hack to accomplish multiple tasks at once
Yeah, I can look forward to 12 hours of travel myself (long layover in Qatar)
How I'll survive being back in the office immediately after my return will be another story
As for the door - it's secured with an R4 mag lock
This situation is made for the use of "subvert infrastructure" - one hack to accomplish multiple tasks at once
I am on vacation without acces to computer. I will try some phone foo to not keep it rolling.
That's alright, if you want, I can roll for you, provided you tell me which steps you want to take (I assume you'll always keep your attribute spell active)
(Completely optional reading)
Summary: Tamarind is not yet a reliable hacking option, but 1-2 edge would probably make it work in a pinch
Just for kicks I was looking at Tamarind's options for the situation, assessing where she is at for the next time AM is out of town.
Summary: Tamarind is not yet a reliable hacking option, but 1-2 edge would probably make it work in a pinch
Just for kicks I was looking at Tamarind's options for the situation, assessing where she is at for the next time AM is out of town.
[ Spoiler ]
If it ever becomes necessary, Raven could give Tamarind a +4 Increase Intuition boost, at least.
Bye
Thanee
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Thanee
Pretty accurate summary.
Mid level security host for a relatively unimportant entrance. Taking over the cameras in the area would be certainly prudent as you don't know what's on the other side
Mid level security host for a relatively unimportant entrance. Taking over the cameras in the area would be certainly prudent as you don't know what's on the other side
Lets start with Hacking:
Augment intuition + logic as usual - then letting trouble sustain one of the spells while she works.
Drain: 2#11d6t5 4 5
Marking the host:
Hacking the door: Hacking: 22d6t5 11
door resist: Hacking resist: 11d6t5 4
Spoofing the door: to open: Using the mark on the host.
spoof command: 20d6t5 5
spoof command: 11d6t5 1
for the camera - we'll try edit file as usual.
First matrix perception
Matrix perception: 17d6t5 5
Then if there are no protections:
To avoid the camera we'll do edit file:
Edit file: 22d6t5 8
Edit file: 11d6t5 0
the Camera basically does not want to look at them.
Augment intuition + logic as usual - then letting trouble sustain one of the spells while she works.
Drain: 2#11d6t5 4 5
Marking the host:
Hacking the door: Hacking: 22d6t5 11
door resist: Hacking resist: 11d6t5 4
Spoofing the door: to open: Using the mark on the host.
spoof command: 20d6t5 5
spoof command: 11d6t5 1
for the camera - we'll try edit file as usual.
First matrix perception
Matrix perception: 17d6t5 5
Then if there are no protections:
To avoid the camera we'll do edit file:
Edit file: 22d6t5 8
Edit file: 11d6t5 0
the Camera basically does not want to look at them.
QUOTE (Jack_Spade @ Aug 21 2025, 12:50 PM)
Rachel had just spoken that thought, when they noticed that the drone had started to head in their direction - it would get a clear line of sight in about 30 seconds if it kept heading in this direction.
Who is this referring to? Are the chummers taking a smoke break the ones who noticed the drone heading in their direction, with the implication that they'll need to end their smoke break quickly so they don't get caught?
Or is the drone going to have a clear LOS on our position in about 30 seconds?
This is referring to your position at the entrance of the loading bay.
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