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wagnern
I have not seen a mention of it, but to me, it would make great sence for a security company to hide micro cameras and microphones into their badges. Don't even tell the employies about them, just everytime they find a dead guard take his badge and use this tiny 'flight recorder' to see what killed him. (Only a few in the company would know why the badges are taken off of killed guards, most would think it is to just keep loose badges from floating around and finding there way on the black market)

This is a heck of a lot cheaper than cyber cameras and headware memory, it can't be hacked by Deckers. Also, the emblems on the guards hats can be used if the company wants a better view of where the guard is looking. Perhaps both?

If this practice leaks to the street, place trackers in the badges, so when the runner snages the badge, you can follow him. Incased in metal they can be made tough enough to resist any quick form of destruction and thus must be taken with the runner.

Kill the guard? Police perfer cameras over eye witnesses anyway.
toturi
What if the badges are used as a lure?

If the badges(or any other similar measures) are used, they'd quickly be disseminated out to the streets. Such measures are based on secrecy and once they are used, they won't be secret anymore. It is similar to having an intelligence source and using it. If you use it, you are exposing it, but if you don't, you might as well do not have it.
Clyde
Of course, that kind of thing is why the corps have to hire shadowrunners in the first place! When the security company plugs your face into its software they'll get zip if you don't have a SIN or something. Sure they could print your picture out and put up wanted posters in your neighborhood, but that would just warn you that they were onto you. Most runners are going to assume that they're on camera at any corp site, anyway, and use masks/disguises/invisibility/concealment anyway.

Still, I like this pinhole camera thing enough to try it on my group sometime grinbig.gif
Eyeless Blond
There's also the potential lawsuit implications for invasion of privacy etc. After all, employees do take those badges home with them, and home is likely to not be on extranational territory.
Frater Inominatus
So you simply make them AOD. When the get within 100 meters of the building the bagde receives an "on" code and when the badge no longer receives the code it shuts down.
Reaver
QUOTE (Eyeless Blond)
There's also the potential lawsuit implications for invasion of privacy etc. After all, employees do take those badges home with them, and home is likely to not be on extranational territory.

Corps in SR don't have issues with privacy. And if you are a wageslave, then you ARE corp property 24/7, whether you're home is on corp property or not. smile.gif

I think this is an excellent idea. Maybe even include a tracker bug so that if someone does take it, you can track them down. Or have the images on a constant upload to a central server... maybe even one that isn't on the matrix. biggrin.gif
toturi
Megacorps in SR don't have issues with privacy. A corps and smaller deal with national laws, so unless your UCAS privacy laws differ greatly from those US privacy laws now, you will have problems.
Just Pete
Of course, the badges could also be "premises only" - that is, when the guard gets to work, he clocks in, grabs his badge, and goes on shift. Reverse in the evening. Badge never goes home, no issue with privacy.

Another thought - it's not even necessary to make this a big secret. Having locators & eyes on the guards in secure facilities is bound to be a good idea anyway - sorta like the 'communicators' in Star Trek series - you've got a radio and homing beacon in one. Adding a camera is a no-brainer.

Plus, telling the guards what they're carrying will also alleviate those privacy lawsuits that arise when the videos of them visiting the bathroom hit the matrix....

And yes, Mega-Corps still have to answer to privacy laws - even if they're just their own. PR purposes an' all.
Reaver
QUOTE (Just Pete)
Of course, the badges could also be "premises only" - that is, when the guard gets to work, he clocks in, grabs his badge, and goes on shift. Reverse in the evening. Badge never goes home, no issue with privacy.

Another thought - it's not even necessary to make this a big secret. Having locators & eyes on the guards in secure facilities is bound to be a good idea anyway - sorta like the 'communicators' in Star Trek series - you've got a radio and homing beacon in one. Adding a camera is a no-brainer.

Plus, telling the guards what they're carrying will also alleviate those privacy lawsuits that arise when the videos of them visiting the bathroom hit the matrix....

And yes, Mega-Corps still have to answer to privacy laws - even if they're just their own. PR purposes an' all.

No, Mega-corps do not have to answer to privacy laws. Extra-territoriality means they MAKE the laws. And if you complain, you could end up as a poster child for why the camera could have been a good idea when they hire a showrun team to geek you. "Gee, had he actively used our new badge camera unit, at least we would know who the perpetrators were... sadly, he didn't." biggrin.gif
wagnern
Ya, Corps try to play good guy, but who are they kidding? Everyone knows how they realy feal:


Soon to be Erased reporter: "Mega Corp Inc ravages the enviroment, invades privicy, undermindes the government, and makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. What is your responce to these aligations?"

Mega Corp P.R. rep blushes: "Ah, you say the sweetest things."


Besides, how is someone going to complain? Talk to the press owned by a megacorp? Talk to the Government that is a powerless puppet of the Megacorps? Even Mega corp rivalries may not help you. Perhaps the news group of a rival megacorp would cover the story, But why, they can fabricate much better. And besides, if a whisle blower gets press, it may incourage more people to come forward, and some of these might be there own. Also, chalanging a Mega corp may inspire a seed of hope in some people; they can't allow that.
Kagetenshi
QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ May 16 2005, 08:54 AM)
There's also the potential lawsuit implications for invasion of privacy etc. After all, employees do take those badges home with them, and home is likely to not be on extranational territory.

I disagree. I think it gets underplayed, but in my opinion the implication is that if the corp is extraterritorial the odds are good that they'll provide some sort of housing on said extraterritorial property, and strongly encourage employees to live there.

Personally, I don't think they'd go for it. Cameras capture everything, they don't just turn off because there's sensitive material around.

~J
Sheffield
This is a pretty interesting idea. The badges could be kept in the guards' lockers with their uniforms so the whole privacy thing becomes a non-issue. The badges would contain cameras with transmitters that would send signals to a "black box room," which may be the security rigger's room or which may be its own room. The black box would have to be protected because it contains sensitive information, but at the same time, the information would be no more sensitive than the things the guards see anyway. The average rent-a-cop isn't going to have so much clearance, and so grabbing the right high-ranked guard would provide as much information as accessing the black box, without so much sorting through data.

However, this kind of system would allow for some interesting run hooks. Such as a corp hires a team to get the info out of the balck box room as part of their ongoing industrial espionage against a competitor. Or a team could intercept the microcamera transmissions to get the floor plan of a facility (but still has to go in for a steal because the guards don't get close enough to the secret stuff). This would also provide lots of info about guard routines and facility security procedures.
BitBasher
Actually I do this on most security anyway. Most guards wear a transciever with a camera/mic built in. So does Lone Star. The cost for that in SR is very low compared to the benefits. There's also the added bonus of it being head mounted so it sees what the guard is looking at, which the badge does not. Most sec guards also carry a biomonitor that reports to the central sec office on site. It prevents the whole "neutralizing the guards silently" blatant security holes.
wagnern
I think it would be best if kept non networked. This would be cheaper and secure. Perhaps transmit a signal if the badge orentation changes (the guard is knocked down).

As far as sinsitive information goes, Unless your security guard pulls up plans and pages through them one by one, the camera is not going to show much. Besides a simple failsafe could cut down on this. Simply have a securty code that must be comunitated to the badge before download or it wipes it's memory.
Sheffield
It has to be networked, even if it isn't constantly monitored. The feeds can all dump into memory banks that are kept for 24-48 hours so they can be retrieved if something happens. If they aren't networked, the system is useless. Killing the guards *will* help because the system can be defeated simply by taking the badge off a guard.

Otherwise, as someone noted above, the system is dependent on secrecy and only works if no one knows about the badges.
Kagetenshi
If networked, the system can be detected/intercepted/spoofed/etc. You'd need a physical line.

~J
Sheffield
Of course, if you wanted to go the non-network route without relying on secrecy, the guards could all be equipped with 60 MP of headware memory as part of their standard gear. The guard plugs the camera into their jack and constantly overwrites the same thirty minutes of storage until the system shuts down [guard death]. So the black box in their skull contains the last 30 minutes of footage, which can be accessed by corp geeks. Tough for runners to get around that unless they know about the system and are willing to take the time to carve a chip out of a cadaver's skull or pop it with an EX round or take some other distasteful measure.
Sheffield
QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ May 16 2005, 12:12 PM)
If networked, the system can be detected/intercepted/spoofed/etc. You'd need a physical line.

~J

You'd need a physical line to be foolproof. But there's nothing saying the system has to be foolproof. Look at drones: with all drone networks, corps are betting that their encryption, ECCM, EW riggers, etc. are better than what the intruders are bringing to bear. Which is a perfectly reasonable assumption. The fact that a runner might bring wirecutters doesn't stop a corp from putting concertina wire on their fences, does it?

Also, while a jammer would disrupt the network, it would also immediately send up flags that there was an intrusion. And that's an extra five Kg of unconcealable gear the runners have to lug in.
wagnern
QUOTE (Sheffield)
It has to be networked, even if it isn't constantly monitored. The feeds can all dump into memory banks that are kept for 24-48 hours so they can be retrieved if something happens. If they aren't networked, the system is useless. Killing the guards *will* help because the system can be defeated simply by taking the badge off a guard.

Otherwise, as someone noted above, the system is dependent on secrecy and only works if no one knows about the badges.

Keep changing the cameras location. Buttons, hats, glasses, beltbuckles, exc. I hope the runners don't have time to strip every guard they take out. Also, if you are smart your guards are in teams, and if one get's jumped, there should be other teams on the way, so the runners should not have much time to grab things off their bodies.

You could also compromise and have a burst transmision of the last minute of footage whenever the badge is layed down (presumably from the guard being taken out in some fassion)
Smiley
QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ May 16 2005, 10:59 AM)
I think it gets underplayed, but in my opinion the implication is that if the corp is extraterritorial the odds are good that they'll provide some sort of housing on said extraterritorial property, and strongly encourage employees to live there.

It's more than an implication. Read the descriptions of the biiiig honkin' arcologies and the facilities they have. If they can integrate schools, malls, housing, etc. into corp buildings that size, why wouldn't lesser buildings have at least a barracks for security? Or a few apartments for corporate bigwigs? I'm sure there are benefits to living on extraterritorial property. And yes, it's definitely underplayed.
hyzmarca
There are many good reasons for guards to have cameras that don't involve runners.

Corp Judge: Corp Guard, Corp Exec's Teenage Daughter says that she had nothing to do with the grafitti and that the only reason you arrested her was that she refused to perform oral sex on you.

Corp Guard: Well, lets just look at the recording.

Kagetenshi
And you've just outlined the reason why guards won't have cameras.

~J
hyzmarca
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
And you've just outlined the reason why guards won't have cameras.

~J

So that anyone can get away with any concievable crime just by making spurious allegations?
Kagetenshi
So that any executive or relative thereof can get away with any conceivable crime.

~J
hyzmarca
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
So that any executive or relative thereof can get away with any conceivable crime.

~J

The executive or realitive thereof will get away with it anyway. There will be a slap on the wrist but nothing more. Bob Exec might just agree than a night in jail and a slap on the wrist will do his daughter some good. Better than her getting killed by those Vampire wanabe's that she hangs out with or something similar.

There are certainly some crimes that executives would likely to executed for. Embezelment springs to mind. But covering that up isn't as simple as making sure that the guards don't have cameras.
Kagetenshi
No need for execution, there are any number of indiscretions or illegal acts that a camera on a badge could catch that the guard could either be bribed to forget or discredited enough to be rendered irrelevant. When compared to the minimal benefit, no corp of major size is likely to risk it.

~J
hyzmarca
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
No need for execution, there are any number of indiscretions or illegal acts that a camera on a badge could catch that the guard could either be bribed to forget or discredited enough to be rendered irrelevant. When compared to the minimal benefit, no corp of major size is likely to risk it.

~J

Institutionalized indiscretions and illegal acts hould be commited behind closed doors anyway. If the are on par with corp policy than it woldn't be difficult to bury, delete, or edit the video evidence.

Personal indiscretions of low and mid level management and employees won't be of any concern to the corporation. Personal illegal acts of such employees will be, however. Any corp would want such acts to be punished since they disrupt the day to day operations of the corporation. For the Personal illegal acts of high level executives there may be some offical coverup but even the highest executives eventually have to answer to the Board of Directors and the stockholders.

However, very few guards will be in a position to witnesses institutionalized crimes or the crimes of the highest ranking executives. Those that are would be chosen for their discression and would probably not wear any recording device. Most guards at most facilities would simply be expected to deal with average citizens on a daily basis and these average citizens will be expected to behave according to the law.

In the Arcologies and similar facilities security is really a police force. Most of them will never see a corporate crime greater than an exec's kid spraying some grafitti or witness an indecression greater than some middle manager getting drunk and throwing a frying pan at his boyfriend.

In the case of A or smaller corps the imortance of video is even greater. If a security guard in a major talismonger chain catches a shoplifter he'll need more evidence than just his word to get UCAS courts to convict.
Just Pete
QUOTE (Reaver)

No, Mega-corps do not have to answer to privacy laws.  Extra-territoriality means they MAKE the laws.  And if you complain, you could end up as a poster child for why the camera could have been a good idea when they hire a showrun team to geek you.  "Gee, had he actively used our new badge camera unit, at least we would know who the perpetrators were... sadly, he didn't."  biggrin.gif

Ok, here's where I have to disagree. Just because it's a mega-corp does not mean that it is evil on all aspects.

Yes, mega-corps make their own laws. That apply to their employees. Which INCLUDES privacy laws. Which the upper levels of management will routinely ignore, yes.

However - the average, every-day corp citizen is still governed by those laws. The vast majority of the employees will be subject to and bound by those laws. The level at which these badges would be implemented would also be subject to those laws.

I do agree that anything that comes about from this type of monitoring that has real potential to damage the mega-corp would be suppressed, but the type of stuff that would provoke a privacy complaint (bathroom or bedroom monitoring, or private, personal conversations) would fall far short of the 'need to suppress' requirement, and would be handled under the privacy laws within that mega-corp's justice system.

There's also the situation where one of these badges records something that is not on corp territory that concerns a non-corp citizen. Making the (rather-large) assumption that this recording somehow gets into the hands of the local government, via subpoena or other means, then the local privacy laws would be in effect.

Plus, just to nitpick - extra-territoriality only applies to those countries that have extra-terriotoriality agreements with the corporation. There are still a few hold-outs that assert geographical control. Generally, mega-corps don't operate there, but a few exceptions still exist in those places where the business is lucrative enough to warrant the lapse of control.

I'm not going to say that a mega-corp won't try and most often succeed in finding a way around any privacy laws that they feel like ignoring. That doesn't mean that they don't exist, and that the corp isn't beholden to them.
EVLTIM
Actually I have absolutely no idea why no one bothered to write this in for Lone Star long ago . ohplease.gif

Tie it in with the Doc Wagon tag they have to have as standard issue and the black box idea is a no brainer . Just have it activate when the Doc tag goes off .


Edit cause my Spell checker is goofy like that .
Reaver
QUOTE (Just Pete @ May 17 2005, 08:44 AM)
QUOTE (Reaver)

No, Mega-corps do not have to answer to privacy laws.  Extra-territoriality means they MAKE the laws.  And if you complain, you could end up as a poster child for why the camera could have been a good idea when they hire a showrun team to geek you.  "Gee, had he actively used our new badge camera unit, at least we would know who the perpetrators were... sadly, he didn't."   biggrin.gif

Ok, here's where I have to disagree. Just because it's a mega-corp does not mean that it is evil on all aspects.

Yes, mega-corps make their own laws. That apply to their employees. Which INCLUDES privacy laws. Which the upper levels of management will routinely ignore, yes.

However - the average, every-day corp citizen is still governed by those laws. The vast majority of the employees will be subject to and bound by those laws. The level at which these badges would be implemented would also be subject to those laws.

I do agree that anything that comes about from this type of monitoring that has real potential to damage the mega-corp would be suppressed, but the type of stuff that would provoke a privacy complaint (bathroom or bedroom monitoring, or private, personal conversations) would fall far short of the 'need to suppress' requirement, and would be handled under the privacy laws within that mega-corp's justice system.

There's also the situation where one of these badges records something that is not on corp territory that concerns a non-corp citizen. Making the (rather-large) assumption that this recording somehow gets into the hands of the local government, via subpoena or other means, then the local privacy laws would be in effect.

Plus, just to nitpick - extra-territoriality only applies to those countries that have extra-terriotoriality agreements with the corporation. There are still a few hold-outs that assert geographical control. Generally, mega-corps don't operate there, but a few exceptions still exist in those places where the business is lucrative enough to warrant the lapse of control.

I'm not going to say that a mega-corp won't try and most often succeed in finding a way around any privacy laws that they feel like ignoring. That doesn't mean that they don't exist, and that the corp isn't beholden to them.

He who has the gold, makes the rules. Mega-corps with extra-t can pick, choose, bend or break whatever rules they wish. Don't believe me? It's in the fine print at the bottom of the contract you signed when you became a wage slave. wink.gif

If some mid-level manager thinks that cameras in the badges will help make him look more efficient, gather more evidence, and therefore increase his promotability... what do you think is going to happen? And he'll justify any "privacy" breaches with protecting the bottom line... if the corp has any privacy rules... which they probably don't. A wageslave is corp owned property and subject to observation at any time to make sure such assets are protected and secure.

Evil has nothing to do with it. It's all about protecting the bottom line in the corps eyes.
Foreigner
What was that line from The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948)?

Ah, NOW I remember:

Gold Hat (Alfonso Bedoya): "Badges? We ain't got no stinkin' badges! We don't NEED no stinkin' badges! I don't got to show you no stinkin' badges!"

Sorry, folks, but it seemed appropriate. smile.gif

Seriously, though: there are digital cameras NOW that are almost that small--small enough to fit inside a medium-sized fountain pen or a wristwatch, at any rate. I see no reason why technology wouldn't advance enough in the next fifty to sixty-five years (depending upon the version of SR you use) to make such things a possibility.

Given the fact that there are currently cellular telephones with built-in digital cameras, and the ability to send images as part of a text message, I would think that a miniaturized camera (either still or video, and with or without sound) small enough to fit behind a security officer's badge would be relatively easy to come by--that is, something that could be specially made, if it weren't already standard issue.

After all, people probably laughed at whoever it was that first proposed the idea of putting video cameras in police vehicles--but nobody's laughing now, except whoever's getting money out of it. He or she is probably laughing all the way to the bank. wink.gif

--Foreigner
Kagetenshi
QUOTE (hyzmarca)
Institutionalized indiscretions and illegal acts hould be commited behind closed doors anyway. If the are on par with corp policy than it woldn't be difficult to bury, delete, or edit the video evidence.

Personal indiscretions of low and mid level management and employees won't be of any concern to the corporation. Personal illegal acts of such employees will be, however. Any corp would want such acts to be punished since they disrupt the day to day operations of the corporation. For the Personal illegal acts of high level executives there may be some offical coverup but even the highest executives eventually have to answer to the Board of Directors and the stockholders.

However, very few guards will be in a position to witnesses institutionalized crimes or the crimes of the highest ranking executives. Those that are would be chosen for their discression and would probably not wear any recording device. Most guards at most facilities would simply be expected to deal with average citizens on a daily basis and these average citizens will be expected to behave according to the law.

Corporations are not people, they are made of people. Corporations will absolutely care about the personal indiscretions of anyone with any power whatsoever, because the people along the chain will care about it, because they will want any information or blackmail ammunition they can get. They will also have a great interest in their own illegal acts, specifically ensuring that those illegal acts go unseen.

It's an unacceptable risk for a minimal benefit. Being investigated because of camera data is far worse than having a few prototypes stolen or a few dozen guards slaughtered.

~J
shadow_scholar
First off, I think the sheer cost of implementing this technology is what makes it unlikely. You're gonna need some serious storage space to hold all that visual information, even more if you include audio. Okay, you can dump it every 48 hours or whatever, a small security force might implement that. But Lone Star? No frikkin' way, there's way too many cops out there and way too much information to try and store. Plus, give it a month or two (or less) and it would be easy for runners/deckers to crack it, thereby making it worthless at a large scale. Yeah, it might help in traffic stop situations like regular cops use now with car mount cameras, but Lone Star doesn't handle traffic violations anymore, they let the Grid Guide take care of all that. Plus, this kind of thing can be horribly abused. All you have to do is crack the frequency and then fake the images and bam, instant frame-up for anyone carrying one of these things. Plus, you're gonna have to trust the person handling all this information, and how likely is that? And who says someone is going to take out a sec-guard from directly in front of them, anyway, where the camera will be facing? And if this stuff were implemented, how far would the bean counters take it? You're already sticking a camera and a tracking signal in a badge ($$$), why not make it even more cost effective and put security codes in there, too? Opps, another way for runners to pervert the intended uses of the badges.

As for the biometric readers, no go on that bad boy also. I believe biometric readers for Docwagon don't come into play until Platinum or Super Platinum service, which means it must cost mucho bucks for that kind of thing to be made effective at long ranges. Put that into context, just how many folks out in the 6th world get Docwagon Platinum or Super Plat? Regular Docwagon service depends upon a oneway cell wristband that the customer must activate themselves, which I'd guess is also rare in that society. Just because shadowrunners make Docwagon a standard purchase doesn't mean Joe Average is going to, not by a long shot.

It is plausible that a small security force tied to a site might implement this camera/tracker/biometric reader, but I don't think a municipal security force ever would. It's too expensive and too easy to muck with. You've got to weigh cost effectiveness with real world effectiveness. Granted, maybe someone like the Aztlan Jaguar Gaurds or Tir Ghosts may have this kind of thing going while guarding a home base or on a black ops mission, but no way is this going to be standard in regular security tasks. Don't get me wrong, it is a cool idea, but just unlikely to be used outside of high, high priority security jobs.
Fahr
there is another factor I have not seen mentioned here. Most cops don't want security cameras, it implies that they are not trustworthy of the work themselves.

Many cops were unhappy with the cameras in the cars when those went into effect, it was the public who was demanding them, not the cops. those cameras make sure that if the cop does do anything even a little wrong, that it will be scrutinized after the fact. Any little slip up can be used as an out, even in the corporate world, a good lawyer can use that footage as much against the corp as it would to help them catch the runners.

which it wouldn't really help them do. the runners are not going to be any more covered on the badge camera as they would on any other camera. so all you get is a buch of cops/gaurds who feel like they are not being respected. and that is bad for morale. it is really better in the secret Mega world for your gaurds to have the most discretion to do there jobs as possible. if you don't trust there judgement and there words, than you fire them. If they said that the guy they shot was a runner out to do a terrorist act, it's actuallyh in the corps best intrest to make that version true, even if it wasn't what actually happens. as long as the gaurd/cops have the last word, than the corp can spin it to there advantage, even in death. They can make a dead gaurd an "industrial Accident" if that would be better for PR - as long as there is no evidence suggesting otherwise.

-fahr
hyzmarca
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
QUOTE (hyzmarca @ May 16 2005, 05:49 PM)
Institutionalized indiscretions and illegal acts hould be commited behind closed doors anyway. If the are on par with corp policy than it woldn't be difficult to bury, delete, or edit the video evidence.

Personal indiscretions of low and mid level management and employees won't be of any concern to the corporation. Personal illegal acts of such employees will be, however. Any corp would want such acts to be punished since they disrupt the day to day operations of the corporation. For the Personal illegal acts of high level executives there may be some offical coverup but even the highest executives eventually have to answer to the Board of Directors and the stockholders.

However, very few guards will be in a position to witnesses institutionalized crimes or the crimes of the highest ranking executives. Those that are would be chosen for their discression and would probably not wear any recording device.  Most guards at most facilities would simply be expected to deal with average citizens on a daily basis and these average citizens will be expected to behave according to the law.

Corporations are not people, they are made of people. Corporations will absolutely care about the personal indiscretions of anyone with any power whatsoever, because the people along the chain will care about it, because they will want any information or blackmail ammunition they can get. They will also have a great interest in their own illegal acts, specifically ensuring that those illegal acts go unseen.

It's an unacceptable risk for a minimal benefit. Being investigated because of camera data is far worse than having a few prototypes stolen or a few dozen guards slaughtered.

~J

That would make sense if megacorps didn't use any security cameras anywhere. However, they do. Most guards are never going to have the opportunity to see anything compromising and most guards are never going to see a shadowrunner just like most police officers today will never have a reason to fire their weapons in the line of duty. The point is to have evidence that can be used against average perptrators, shoplifters, and such.
What are the chances that the guy guarding an arcology clothing store from shoplifters will ever see the corporate President giving out bribes or ordering extralegal actions? That kind of stuff happens in clodes boardrooms and private offices, not public clothing stores. By the same token, corrput officals today don't fear cameras in police patrol cars because t hey wouldn't be stupid enough to accept bribes while a patrol cars are parked in their offices.
Kagetenshi
Security cameras are stationary. They're a known quantity, and they don't have habits of potentially going out of their way to spy on odd goings-on.

~J
hyzmarca
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
Security cameras are stationary. They're a known quantity, and they don't have habits of potentially going out of their way to spy on odd goings-on.

~J

If the security guards are spying on you then they can just get their own cameras. If they're using your cameras then you have control of the recording.

It is still a good idea in places where they cannot possibly see anything they shouldn't see.
Kagetenshi
If you're a middle manager or an upper manager with enemies, they aren't your cameras.

Corporations are not monolithic. High-ranking people within a corporation are still at risk from that corporation's assets.

~J
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