I'm sure that there are several of you in here that play SR online in some format. Just wanted to get a good feel of how you guys go about it, and how does the introduction of another edition (or an entirely different game as some assert), change things for you.

See how I kept it in the SR4 category!

Biggest change to consider would be the diceroller.

SL6 already has exploding dice and karma rerolls built-in, and counts successes, but now it would have to be limited to uses of Edge. It would also have to accomodate whatever other dice mechanics exist that aren't d6 vs. TN 5 (i.e., initiative, etc.)

And that would be an "in addition to" for those who won't be using SR4.

We at SotSW use an AIM chatroom. The AIM dieroller is essentially identical to physical dice except for some suspected weaknesses in their pseudorandom number generator and the ability to choose any number of sides from 1 to 999 and any number of dice at a time from 1 to 15 (further dice are gained by just giving a second roll command), so even if we do switch to SR4 the introduction of a new edition doesn't change things from a technical perspective.

We maintain a message board for scheduling/charsheets/etc. that will be likewise totally unaffected.

~J

Skill or not, Initiative rolls are TN 5 based checks.

Oh dear god...

Whoa. Freaky. Kind of like the Deadlands system, only without the cards.

For me it could be the end of my online gaming. Which is pretty much the only gaming I do these days. If SR4 is really popular and people start switching there will be less willingness for the player base to want to play in SR3. Or they will want to use SR3 'modified' to play like SR4.

I cannot afford,and I don't want, to upgrade to a new system . So for me at least I will be still running games in SR3. But if all the other gm's run in SR4 I will be out of luck.

If by some miracle SR4 is a good system and I do choose to upgrade, it will slow things down considerably. I have 7 years of electronic resources for SR3. None for SR4. No more Mcmackies or online character sheets, my R3 tool is useless, etc.

It could have significant impact, it could not. At the very least in a few years (maybe less) I won't be able to play in a game cause everyone will be running SR4, and I will not have the rules to do it.

Or each hit could represent one phase, much like now. Each character rolls Reaction or Reaction plus some kind of skill like Combat Training or something. The character with the most hits goes first, then the next, then the next, then the next. After everyone has had a turn, they all subtract one hit from their total and repeat until no more hits exist. Those who didn't score any hits may be treated as if they were stunned or otherwise caught with their pants down during the turn and can only perform defensive/free actions.

Just throwing up another possibility. This one keeps it close to how it works now, introduces a mechanic where anyone -- even a highly augmented character -- can be caught off-guard without having to use a Surprise mechanic as well, and allows even unaugmented characters the rare chance to do better than someone with heavy boosts. Improved reflexes would give you reliablility over the long term rather than a guarantee that you'd always go fast, and as such prices for those augmentations could be drastically lowered (as they should have been with SR3, too).

Or maybe just one single action per success, and a complex action would require by example 3 single actions...
From my experience, in those kind of system (let's say WoD system, but please, don't yell at me), the initiative rules are always following a separate way than the other rules...

unless you save your actions earned until the next roll and then roll again adding them on.

Which would just get tedious and boring really quick as you roll and roll and roll and roll and roll... each one representing 6 seconds.

You're all assuming that having a high initiative will give you more actions, when it's possible that all it'll do is let you go first, like in most other systems. It'd definitely make the game simpler... *shudder*

Right, cause joe spell-slinger needs a minute and a half to empty the same gun that it takes Joe sammy 45 seconds to unload, both firing "full auto"
neither instance makes sense in an isolated, uninformed forum such as this duscussion. We don't know the mechanic they plan on using with any certainty. I was just tossing an idea. Maybe each toss for init represents 1 second. so you'd get six tosses per turn to come up with actions. (Just thinking out loud, I don't think that would be the case asn that's just too much rolling).

wwoooowww.
Funny initiative test ... Were you thinking what you wrote ?
Do you really think the number of action will so much depend on the dices ???
If there is a test reaction + X vs TN5 to count as action, there will surely be a base number of action.
Or it can't be more as the old initiative sum.

Anyway it can't be so unbalanced as proposed : it as been playtested more than 2 hours.

that's not a proposed system Taki.
That was an idea tossed from the top of my head, as a counter point to a previously mention thing.

Sorry Nikoli, I sometimes have misconception of the "you", I wasn't adressed on your statement which is very correct, but on some guessings above ...
By the way, I bet the index of Sam (edit:)KEEPING triggering a full auto smg will probably stay quicker to empty the clip than joe's in SR4 too
(it always seemed strange to me)

the RoF should be the same, it's the accuracy/efficiency that should be different. The highly trained sammy will be putting a much higher percentage of rounds on target where joe nobody is just wasting lead and causing a distraction. Now, mind you I sure as hell would not run into an area where someone is spraying lead, because you don't know how lucky they are compared to you.

I remember in the main DSF someone had a house rule about FA suppresive fire would actually be in effect from when it was enacted till the PCs next action.

Perhaps all FA could be made that way. When you use FA you designate an area you are targeting, roll your attack, and record the number of hits. Anyone that passes into that area before your next action can be the target of the attack. Every target attacked reduces the number of hits available for the next target entering the area.

i ran the only rigger game i know of, on SL. it failed miserably, due in large part to the rigging rules.

Someday. Someday I'll find someone else who likes the Rigging rules, and then I'll show you all!

~J

your nefarious scheme will never succeed as long as a single autobot still stands, megatron! and quit filching my goddamn energon cubes.

I like em without the MIJI and some of the other optional rules. I like to create/customize vehicles, but until someone comes up with a SR3 version of The Shop, I don't do it often.

Like I say, if people in your game use encryption you might as well throw out all of MIJI that isn't Jamming, because no one's getting anything done with the rest of it.

~J