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Maverick
Ok so my character pissed off the Mafia.
They have my street name, address, and a photo. Ive been out of town for 4 months, so they stopped actively chasing me. They bugged and compromised my gear so ive had to ditch everything. They know im alive and back in town somewhere. Managaed to sell my car so i have a bit of cash at least.

Easiest solution is just disapear and create a new identity to run under. I have the Facial Sculpt and Voice Control adept powers so being someone else aint a problem.

Im toying with the idea of trying to fake my own death to get the Mafiosos off my back entirely. They dont have any biological information on me like dna or dental records, so thats easy.
Anyone tried doing this before? Suggested methods? Worth the hastle, or just easier disapearing?

Im also gonna need a cash inflow to get my new life off the ground.
Not being as entirely familiar with New Seattle as our GM, im at a bit of a loss for feasible ideas for a big quick score. Things like robbing a mueseum or bank spring to mind but im assuming in this age of techno-paranoia and The Star, those things are locked down tighter than anything...

Ive got an appartment full of my old stuff worth about nuyen.gif 20,000, but the Mafia is almost certainly monitoring it.
If i could figure out a way to somehow get all that crap outta there i'd have a nice starting lump sum.
Or perhaps just sell it off whiles its still all in there... hmm... To the landlord perhaps? hmm....

Ideas? smile.gif
BitBasher
Um, call a johnson or a fixer? Get a run? That's how most SR's make money.
KarmaInferno
Hm. I would say that 20K might not be worth your life.

On the other hand, it would certainly make for a perfect setup to fake your death. You'd need a body about your height, gender, and build.

If during the inevitable firefight that springs up from you going back to "get your gear" something explodes and sets everything ablaze, well, gee, if they find a burned body that kinda matches your description, they might buy it.

Are you operating solo? Or do you have any runner friends that can help?


-karma
Method
You could sell someone the information about your apartment/nest egg and call it a day...

Of coarse you probably won't get as much for the info as you would for the gear, and when the buyer finds out his new score comes with a complimentary gift of mafia involvment he's not going to be a happy shopper. Could earn yourself a new enemy (but probably not a scary as the mob).

Actually, this would be a great subplot to a campaign:

GM: You are approached by nervous looking stranger.

Stranger: Hey pal, you wanna score some cheep gear? I got info you might be interested in...

Nieve Runner: Tell me more...


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Smiley
Fake your death. Take a long vacation. Spend the 5k on plastic surgery. Get some fake SINs.
DocMortand
Something you should be aware of tho is magical means of tracing you. If the mafia ever got a hold of a sample of yours....doesn't matter how much you change, you're still trackable (just harder depending on the type of change).
Maverick
QUOTE (KarmaInferno)
Hm. I would say that 20K might not be worth your life.

On the other hand, it would certainly make for a perfect setup to fake your death. You'd need a body about your height, gender, and build.

If during the inevitable firefight that springs up from you going back to "get your gear" something explodes and sets everything ablaze, well, gee, if they find a burned body that kinda matches your description, they might buy it.

Are you operating solo? Or do you have any runner friends that can help?


-karma

The idea has merit...
Although that would torch my 20grand wink.gif

Maybe if i approached my landlord and got him to 'sell off' my stuff to cover the rent which ive obviously stopped paying...


Pretty much solo yeah...
Everyone else who was on the run that got the Mafia so pissed in the 1st place has been off'd by them. Ive been lucky so far.
ShadowDragon8685
My advice?

Move to somewhere La Famillia dosen't have any presence, and start over. smile.gif
Maverick
QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)
My advice?

Move to somewhere La Famillia dosen't have any presence, and start over. smile.gif

Easiest option by far huh?
Wish i could, but the character has reasons he needs to stay in seattle :\
ShadowDragon8685
In that case..

What, exactly, did you DO to piss off the mob?
Maverick
Well i guess the short version is my dead chummers and i whacked a lieutenant.
Negotiating with them isnt an option, as 2 of my mates found out the hard way.
Herald of Verjigorm
So, whack another one and leave a note saying that last time was just business, but they are getting close to making it personal. Every month that they don't let off, come up with a more disturbing way to kill a lieutenant.
Maverick
hehe
while i like your way of thinking, war with the mafia doesnt really mix well with the reasons he needs to stay in seattle.
Mr. Man
Well if you have a good fixer contact they should be able to arrange for the liquidation of the apartment assets without taking too large of a cut. No loss of street cred either since they're sure to know people who can take care of everything. Don't go to the landlord as he could be compromised by the mafia.

Easier than faking your death might be to make it look like you left town for good. Make it look like you travelled to one remote country, then another and finally just went off the map.

Overwatch
Find out the Identity of a freelance hitter that has worked for the mob in the past. Kill him. (he's a bad guy anyway right?).

Then assume his identity, and take the contract on yourself. Take the 20k you got and buy a shit ton of explosives. Move around in your real identity so people know where you've gone to ground. Then blow the hell out of it.

Collect the money for the hit, assume a new identity, and break off all contact with anyone that knew you as you. If you absolutely HAVE to stay in contact with some one from your past. Make them believe you are dead too, and reapproach them as your new self. (sans mafia price on your head).

That should do you.
apollo124
Another possible option, although not necessarily an easy one, might be to do a huge favor for the "Family" Make it something grand enough to convince them to forget the whole "kiss of death" thing. Depending on exactly who the dearly departed is, you might be looking at a 100k Nuyen style of job. If it was the son of the Godfather, then you are truly SOL.

Along with that, do your best to acquire a pal who has an "in" with the mob. He could speak for you when the time to negotiate hits.

Or maybe get in touch with the local Yakuza or Triad. Fight fire with fire by turning one organized gang against another. But I would tell your new pals about your old problem or you could risk having 2 organized crime orgs after your sorry hoop.

Hope this helps
Bastard
QUOTE
They have my street name, address, and a photo....They dont have any biological information on me like dna or dental records, so thats easy.


If they have your address, whos to say they havent gone inside? If they have, they have your DNA, and probably could trace you magically.

You're so toast...go out shootin.
Birdy
Well you could always rent:

"The Marathon Man" (how to get your stuff from an observed appartment)

"The whole nine yards" (good uses of a dentist, choosing the right assasins apprentice)

and use that as an advice :=)

But if you stay in Seattle, by all means make sure you "die".


Birdy
Capt. Dave
QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm)
So, whack another one and leave a note saying that last time was just business, but they are getting close to making it personal. Every month that they don't let off, come up with a more disturbing way to kill a lieutenant.

I like this idea. Screw the damn Mafia. You are a hardened criminal, an urban predator, a shadowrunner, damnit. Let those who stand against you fall before your might. Strike at your enemies like a viper from the shadows.

If you're going to let a few lazy Italians stop you from being a force feared and respected, whose name is spoken in a hushed whisper, then go ahead. If you are a shadowrunner, then act like one! Let their blood run in the streets! Victory!
tisoz
It would be nice if you could show the deceased lieutenant as an informant or something else the mob would not approve of. You might even manufacture such evidence if it is not available to collect.
Method
I agree with HoV and Cpt. Dave. You are mostly dead already you might as well make it as painful for them as you can. If you're lucky maybe you can make it so painful they leave you alone (but probably not so just have fun). Go out Clint Eastowood Unforgiven-style. FAB every casino, BTL den and whore house in Seatlle...

Also it won't take too long before the yaks or triads are funding your personal war. Then you can really escalate things....
Edward
Do they have a general contract out on you? Are you good at lying? Do you want karma for guts every session from now on?

If the answer to all these questions is yes then consider this.
Get a friend you trust with your life to take a picture of you lying in a gutter with blood everywhere and an ear missing (fascial sculpt power should take care of that part) if your short on friends use a camera with a delay action feature.

Obtain an ear from random bum with ears that resemble yours (right colour size similar pattern doesn’t need to be too good).

Facial sculpt yourself into your chosen new identity, put all your identifying equipment in a bag (just what you escaped with) walk into the dons place of business and hand him all your stuff, the ear and the picture. Claim the bounty on your head.

What to tell the don

You left the body in the gutter, it was a ghoul naberhood (do the fix up in a ghoul naberhood) you would have broat it in but you couldn’t transport it.

You are a runner that annoyed the (pick crime family mafia doesn’t like) in (pick city that crime family operates in but mafia allied to this don doesn’t) and you herd about this job from somebody in a bar (describe at least 25% of mafia goons). Request additional work and the necessities of your business from them. (its ok to ask for the same class of weapon but not the same model).

Not only have you faked your death, you got payed for it and got your new identity some street cred.

If your feeling vindictive you now have means to get back at the mafia for making you ditch your identity

But do you have the balls to pull it off

Edward
FlakJacket
Well since you've already said that leaving the area isn't an option one of your only choices I can see is basically selling your soul to one group or another, you need to get under the protection of someone either as powerful or more so than the mafia. On the criminal side you've only really got the Triads, dicey since they're smaller but more accepting, or more likely the Yakuza. Legally there's always becoming a company man and pledging yourself to a corporation.

Any of these aren't going to take kindly to the mafia whacking one of their guys. The Yaks or Triads since they're the competition, the corps because they don't like the gutter rats interefering with their business so they send a message - and no-one wants to be the object demonstration. With the threat of retaliation you've got a chance I'd think.

The only other choice is to make yourself really indispensable to one of the groups. To make it up to the mafia you'd probably have to carve a bloody swathe through the Yaks and take out at least a couple of similar ranking members. Ring up whomever the lieutenant answered to and tell them you want to make it right, ask him the names of three or four Yakuza members he can assassinate to even the score. Or continue killing mob guys and go over to the Yaks and use that as a show of good faith.
Snow_Fox
I like tisoz' suggestion. prove that you helped them by whacking the lt. If that doesn't work. see if the Yaks will take you in. Get in with them enough and the mafia will not go after you. get too much in with the yaks and going for you could open up a war that isn't worth it. Of course what you have to do to get inthat good with the yaks? well...
LinaInverse
I had been working on developing this because one of my chars is in a similar, though less immediate situation. How about this as an idea?

First, do some research (ie, buy the appropriate Knowledge skills) on where and how the Mafia operates (where the money flows). Get your posse (hopefully your character has some reliable teammates) and start hitting the Mafia's money flow. The trick; get your teammates to do the hit dressed and speaking entirely in Japanese or Chinese, with the appropriate disguises (Yak tattoos, etc). Do this a few times, and hopefully the Mafia's resources will be directed elsewhere. At that point, try and melt into the background, keep your head down, and let the crime families beat each other up.
Shanshu Freeman
QUOTE (Maverick)
QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jul 11 2005, 01:07 AM)
My advice?

Move to somewhere La Famillia dosen't have any presence, and start over. smile.gif

Easiest option by far huh?
Wish i could, but the character has reasons he needs to stay in seattle :\

if its loved ones, say goodbye now.
brennanhawkwood
Along the same lines as getting one of the other groups (Yaks, etc.) to take you under wing, you might even be able to get another faction within the Mafia to take you in. This one depends a lot on the situation and 'politics' involved. Its also kind of like the option of convincing the mafia that you did them a favor taking out the lt. only in this case you find another faction within the mafia that had an issue with that lt and get in good with them.
mrobviousjosh
Hire a few gang members to break into your apartment and get your stuff for a few thousand nuyen.gif . It could help get some starters some street cred without risking prosecution (since you won't be pressing charges). That might work and look fairly unsuspicious (especially if your apt. isn't in the greatest of areas).
Kremlin KOA
Movew to the NAN for 9 months, do work there and find trainers in chemistry... you already have the steqalth skills


Use FAEs and CHemical weapons to take out entire Mafie Installations... but ONLY those associated with the crime family that wants you dead...

The other families, and the other organised crime syndicates will finish off the wounded family for you

Edward
I still say you should show some guts and claim the bounty on your own head. You have the skills.

Edward
Grinder
QUOTE (Shanshu Freeman)
if its loved ones, say goodbye now.

Yeah, become like Robert De Niro in "Heat": cool.gif
Digital Heroin
QUOTE (Edward)
I still say you should show some guts and claim the bounty on your own head. You have the skills.

Edward

I always said if someone put a million dollar price on my head, I'd walk right in and claim it...
The Jopp
grinbig.gif Are you alone? If so, then you get a new identity and start over. Do you have a team, partners in crime? Another group of runners that you work with?

I'd say that the Mob MIGHT be powerful, but a shadowrunner is in a league all on their own - not in the way of power, but imagination and pure survivability.

Remember, they hire YOU for the tough jobs. I'd say give them something to think about - start with the top, kill the Don and work yourself down but do it quickly so that they stay confused and unsure - and make it point towards another organization - the yaks for example.

There is nothing like a diversion like a mobwar grinbig.gif

I'm sure yuo will be forgotten in the general mayhem, just remember to make sure the Yaks get pissed of at the Mob as well.
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