Is Morgan, from the Secrets of Power series, merely the first AI developed by Renraku or does she become Deus?

What other AI's exist in 2064?

What about humans and other beings that are trapped in the Matrix like Alice?


Thanks in advance for the schooling all you book ninjas and History experts.

Does this occur in a shadowrun novel and which one?

Damn Dodger for not letting her down easy. Who woulda thought the course of the shadowrun universe could be so adversely affected by a bad break up.

Actually, Dodger's trying to repair her.

yeah, but that's how break ups always go. He screws up, then goes and buys flowers.... or gets drunk. At least, in my case.....

I always got drunk though..... hmmmm

And there shouldn't be any other AI's living in SR right now. If that were the case, we'd have many more problems than just the Archology.

Not necessarily. Deus didn't do what it did out of malice; it created that house of horrors in order to gain freedom. Other AIs might be relatively benign.

I do believe there is one other AI somewhere out there in the SR universe...

The information on Morgan's dismantling isn't in a novel, so far as I can remember, but it's in Renraku Arcology: Shutdown. The opening fiction of RA:S involves Dodger trying to repair Morgan while prepping playing Matrix overwatch on a related run.

And yes, there's at least a third AI, Mirage.

I'll be taking this page down in a short while to update it for 4th edition, but check out Echoes of the Crash.

Deus could create otaku, but most only retained their abilities within the SCIRE.

Yep, what they said. Though his "converted" Whites, who were otaku before they entered the Arcology, retain their abilities just fine outside the Arcology (at least until they begin to Fade, like all otaku).

So ka.

Has Dodgers or Leonardo's Otaku like abilities began to fade?

I read your Echoes of the Crash AH. It was very informative. Thanks.

Who created the first Otaku? Was it Morgan with Dodger or Deep Resonance?

Ah. Well, Leonardo is an immortal elf. He's a genius with a particular penchant for optical technology and magic. He designed a cyberdeck that you can use by looking at it (something similar to Neal Stephenson's system, I'm guessing). Leo doesn't have a datajack, but he does have an otaku's skills - the Channels - which he can use with his deck.

Leo is sort of fixated on Leonardo da Vinci, and convinces other people he is da Vinci. He managed to penetrate the core CPUs of the Big Eight simutaneously in an attempt to blackmail them, he ended up just making a deal with Renraku (hence their tech increase). Eventually, Lofwyr slapped him down for stealing one of the Big Wyrm's nukes in an attempt to frame the Vatican for covering up a 2,000-year old religious debate. Presumed to be trapped in a sweat shop in Antarctica...Lofwy'rs little version of Not So Happy Toy-Making Elf at the South Pole, ho ho ho.

Oh, yeah, he's also responsible for cleaning up Venice and stopping it from sinking.

Naturally, many, many gamers hate Leo with a passion they normally reserve for Super Physads that knock boots with Hot Elf Grrls.

Thanks, AH--as usual, you're the go-to guy for 'trix-truth.

Now this might sound like a stupid question, but why the hate-on for Leonardo? I mean, yes--he's incredibly, obscenely cheesy. Granted. So what? I think David Gavilan/Damien Knight is fromage, so I nixed him in my game. No fuss, no mess, no deep-seated loathing.

Having just read Tecnobabel, I think I am uniquely qualified to say that:

1. Leonardo is screwed, blued, and tatooed.

2. Lofwyr is a Big Fat Meanie.

and 3. Dodger plays by his own rules and is augmented by Morgan.

Well, in fairness Rasputin was a bit of an inside joke. He was also supposed to be a changeling and a mage.

While Meneleus and Helena were vamps, there's plenty of evidence (in WW canon, that is) to suggest that the actual Trojan War had very little to do with her abduction/rape.

I further submit that Baba Yaga and Mithras (and Enkidu, for that matter), being mythological figures, don't count. The argument goes that these figures existed as legends and stories and the vampires who took their names were simply opportunistic wannabes.

WW fucked the dog with the Punic Wars, IMO.

Rome... hell, you got me with Rome. As a defense, I would only argue that the decadence and debauchery of a declining Rome was too attractive to the canon writers, who let their imaginations go nuts. I can't really blame them and they produced some decent fiction, but yeah... it ends up making everything after around 200 BC or so the product of undead machinations. Which sucks.

Look, I didn't write it. Go read Black Madonna and judge for yourself.

I'll pass, thanks anyway.

So what do you think the Deep Resonance is?

Also, is Virtual Realities the only place where Halberstam's Project: Matrix is discussed? I plan to use that project in an upcoming story arc and I'd like as much info on it as possible.

Project: Matrix Born? Well, you first hear about it in Virtual Realities -> Halberstam is raising kids in the Matrix for the psychological benefits of building superdeckers. He next shows up in Threats, but this time he yanks the kids' brains out of their bodies to prevent "rescue" attempts, creating biological knowbots. You can read more about that in Psychotrope. The last we've heard of the good doctor, he's moved on to using otaku brains...no idea how that adds to his BKs' effectiveness yet.

I think deep resonance and dissonance are cyberspace's equivelent of background count and emotions. Poeple talk about being sensitive to the energies of places, etc, I think the same principles are exerted on cyberspace. Some people are just ultra flakey and claim to pick up on things. And of course who will fit the bill better than Otaku. Deckers would not pick up on this because their perception is filtered through a deck.

Heheh, I had this thread open in one Firefox tab and this news story open in the other. It just worked well together.

(I don't think you'll need a login to see that story, but if you do, lemme know).