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sabs View Member Profile	May 24 2011, 04:12 PM Post #876
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649	The Later. When you're respecing. You just can't go over a 4 pistol, or a 4 infiltration, unless you have one of these qualities. Or if you have the Quality: Unsubtle, you can't buy infiltration over say a 2 (or 3) etc. And I was thinking this: Karma lets you raise a skill above your limitation, but when you respec, you lose your karma.

BlackHat View Member Profile	May 24 2011, 04:19 PM Post #877
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180	Those qualities would help differentiate the PCs (if they had to be maintained and couldn't be respeced). The negative qualities do put some limitations on how you can respec, but I don't know how big a restriction that will end up being, in practice. Not being able to respect to get more than 2 points in infiltration is still a better situation than your typical shadowrunner who has no way of getting any points in infiltration if they didn't put any to begin with.

sabs View Member Profile	May 24 2011, 04:21 PM Post #878
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649	Well, it IS a game right? It's a giant videogame for seeing how to survive the coming Horror Show. The qualities are permanent. And they represent the person's soul/mind/whatever. Sure, the game can try to give me all the skills of a streetsam, but if I flinch everytime I hear a gun fire, that's gonna be an issue.

BlackHat View Member Profile	May 24 2011, 04:40 PM Post #879
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180	Yeah, negative qualities that restrict combat skills always seem more "worth it" than those that restrict other skills. I'm not sure the guy with "demolitions doofus" is any worse off than anyone else (just like a PC who takes "incompetent[demolitions]" isn't really at any disadvantage), and no matter what the restrictions are on how you can respec, the fact that you can respec at all is a big advantage - so not being able to place the points anywhere you want doesn't seem like a big disadvantage to me (and certainly shouldn't be worth BP outside of the UV node).

sabs View Member Profile	May 24 2011, 04:49 PM Post #880
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649	I wasn't thinking they would be worth BP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Just flavor, based on your character background. (or maybe negative ones to help buy positive ones)

Aria View Member Profile	May 24 2011, 06:18 PM Post #881
Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267	I've started a debate (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I hear what you are saying about the stats...will think about having existing characters (with potentially more karma and back history) and then new characters who only need to spend mental BPs for outside the node, possibly some core skills to add flavour and then do everything else 'in node' ...I don't think there will be any out node play in the game but it would be worth having some background for taking the characters into future Emerging games (without all the virtual addons!) I like the idea of the troops for flavour but don't want them to simply be me deciding what happens and the PCs combat actions being more or less irrelevant. Making them BPs from the character pot would make that character responsible for them (and to a certain extent roleplaying them) and so won't be for everyone. The respecing is meant to come from this pool too as the intention is that all the possible respecs start the mission, the node is just allowing the PCs to pick different ones as they see fit...they don't want cheating either as it would invalidate their program. Will perhaps start a thread on the forum to discuss a sort of mass combat system that is PC driven...see what ideas get thrown in the pot! Otherwise I'll just go back to them being background players and it's the PCs who do the key stuff

BlackHat View Member Profile	May 24 2011, 07:04 PM Post #882
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180	Worth asking the community at large about mass combat, but nothing comes immediately to mind. I would also recommend thinking carefully about the BP costs for these soldiers/allies. 15 BP to control 10 PC-level super-soldiers sounds awesome... but it also sounds like a lot of work if my new elite hit-squad is going to be detailed out. Any PC deciding to control 10 of anything means they're controlling more than half of the team (assuming nobody else takes the option, and assuming these characters are meant to be in the foreground). Contacts usually cost 5+ BP each (so 10 would be 50) and those are for guys who would NOT be willing to risk their lives for you.

BlackHat View Member Profile	May 24 2011, 07:10 PM Post #883
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180	The counterpoint would be that if the troops are meant to be background only, or the PC doesn't have a good sense of their stats or isn't in control of them, then it is unlikely they will want to invest BP in a squad of Ensign "red shirts". When creating Roberts, I didn't pay BP to have a squad tag along with us, so I didn't worry too much about how powerful they needed to be, or whether or not they would survive. If the GM decided to have them all eviscerated by the first drone we encountered, I wouldn't actually be out of anything and would have considered it just a plot point to trim us down to the elite team of shadowrunners you expect. However, if I had invested a chunk of BP in them, and they were killed off right away, I'd probably feel a bit robbed. (Kind of like every rigger feels, every time a drone/vehicle takes damage) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

BlackHat View Member Profile	May 24 2011, 07:12 PM Post #884
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180	Oh! That is another thing. You'll (probably) want to make sure that the role of drone rigger isn't completely overshadowed by the new "troop commander" role. For the BP invested, the troops should be on par with what a rigger could get working for him had that BP been spend on nuyen to buy/customize drones - otherwise why be a drone rigger?

Aria View Member Profile	May 24 2011, 07:48 PM Post #885
Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267	QUOTE (BlackHat @ May 24 2011, 08:12 PM) Oh! That is another thing. You'll (probably) want to make sure that the role of drone rigger isn't completely overshadowed by the new "troop commander" role. For the BP invested, the troops should be on par with what a rigger could get working for him had that BP been spend on nuyen to buy/customize drones - otherwise why be a drone rigger? True, except I had in mind that the troops would be more abstract than that, drone help the PC actions directly... check out my thread in the forum if you get a chance? Mass Combat Thanks for everyone's input...but don't forget we're not done with this IC thread yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

BlackHat View Member Profile	May 24 2011, 08:12 PM Post #886
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180	QUOTE (Aria @ May 24 2011, 02:48 PM) ..but don't forget we're not done with this IC thread yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Was about to bring that very thing up. I'll post something to the IC shortly.

Aria View Member Profile	May 25 2011, 01:00 PM Post #887
Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267	Another idea for the military feel for the game (rather than the troops thing I originally proposed...) Check it out (comments welcome!): It's in the mass combat thread (link above), can't seem to get the linking to work at the moment (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) IC post to come...

mister__joshua View Member Profile	May 26 2011, 08:50 AM Post #888
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,229 Joined: 20-December 10 From: Land of the Oatcakes Member No.: 19,241	Is any of the shiny combat armour in the room Dwarf sized?

Aria View Member Profile	May 26 2011, 02:00 PM Post #889
Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267	QUOTE (mister__joshua @ May 26 2011, 09:50 AM) Is any of the shiny combat armour in the room Dwarf sized? I'm sure at least some of it is...milspec armour has to be tailored to its user but these are 'blank' suits and can be worn by anyone at a -1 Reaction penalty (on top of any penalty for the armour being over Body x3)...until fitted properly anyway and you Really haven't got the time for that!

sabs View Member Profile	May 26 2011, 02:43 PM Post #890
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649	Any drones, or 1 man vehicles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Aria View Member Profile	May 26 2011, 02:55 PM Post #891
Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267	QUOTE (sabs @ May 26 2011, 03:43 PM) Any drones, or 1 man vehicles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Well how about 2 hulking anthroform drones outside the door?!? I think any more vehicular drones are likely to be stored in the motor pool area?!?

mister__joshua View Member Profile	May 26 2011, 02:59 PM Post #892
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,229 Joined: 20-December 10 From: Land of the Oatcakes Member No.: 19,241	QUOTE (Aria @ May 26 2011, 03:00 PM) ...and you Really haven't got the time for that! What about if we do an A-Team montage?

sabs View Member Profile	May 26 2011, 03:19 PM Post #893
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649	QUOTE (Aria @ May 26 2011, 02:55 PM) Well how about 2 hulking anthroform drones outside the door?!? I think any more vehicular drones are likely to be stored in the motor pool area?!? Of course, I don't have any hacking skills, but can I see if I can access the node and what the Access Control list (ACL) looks like. Do I think I can slave these badboys to my nexus?

Aria View Member Profile	May 26 2011, 04:32 PM Post #894
Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267	Well you know more about hacking but I would guess that having physical access to their CPUs you should be able to do something quick and dirty!?!

sabs View Member Profile	May 26 2011, 04:39 PM Post #895
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649	I DO have hardware skill (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) so yes.. yes I could. logic(7)+hardware(2)+PuSHeD(1)=10. That's 2.4 hits bought. Probably take me a minute to do some quick work on em.

Aria View Member Profile	May 27 2011, 11:45 AM Post #896
Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267	QUOTE (sabs @ May 26 2011, 05:39 PM) I DO have hardware skill (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) so yes.. yes I could. logic(7)+hardware(2)+PuSHeD(1)=10. That's 2.4 hits bought. Probably take me a minute to do some quick work on em. Yes, no problem...it will take the others that long to drool over the kit in here... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Perhaps you could wire in your commlink (and slave to your nexus) and hardwire the other drone therefore bypassing any of their comm systems? This should stop some degree of spoofing shouldn't it?!?

Aria View Member Profile	May 27 2011, 11:52 AM Post #897
Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267	Continuing the preview of the next game for those who have commented I've done an updated version here for your perusal (changes highlighted in red): [ Spoiler ] Emerging: End of Days OoC & Recruitment Will you face the Apocalypse? (Recruitment always open!) Inspired by Eclipse Phase/Cuthulu Tech and Earthdawn this game follows on from the events in my game Emerging Conflict (although no knowledge of that thread is needed to play in this one). That thread will continue on during this recruitment period and I hope that the players from that will move on to this one as I’d like to keep IC more or less continuous. I am looking for players to go to the remains of the Stillwater Community on the borders of Redmond. The year is 2072-73 but once there you will be entering into a UV node simulator that will take you to the edges of the future – and a dark dark place it is! The node will plunge you into a Realer than Real apocalyptic setting where you will need to fight to survive – to aid you in this you will have access to milspec gear and SOTA (circa 2070) technologies. Unlike RAW the node is capable of representing real life to a surprising level and even magic and the astral have been successfully modelled. What’s more the tech exists so that no matter who you are going in (from hardened shadowrunner to corp secretary) you can become more or less anyone inside the node...(This is a derivation of the simsense skillsofts except they can be higher than 4 and can also replicate magical skills – although they only work inside the node.) The game world encompasses the greater Seattle Metroplex area and parts of the surrounding countryside, circa 2105. Mission Briefing [ Spoiler ] “Welcome to Stillwater...you can call me *Sandman. Thank you for agreeing to join us to beta test the capabilities of our simulator program, it’ll be a wild ride! I will give you a chance to meet each other shortly but I can tell you now that you represent a broad mix of people, from community members to military and security personnel, shadowrunners, students and even a couple of former wage slaves... You might ask why we are bothering with all of this...although none of us can see the future we’re pretty certain that history will repeat itself and that at some point there will be a new VITAS outbreak or something similar to the insect spirits in Chicago. As we are more or less self-sufficient again here at Stillwater we would represent a tempting target and we want to be prepared... we believe that the best method of training is to live* through it. The mission parameters are simple... You will be playing the parts of future denizens of the Stillwater group in a time shortly after the world has gone to devil ratshit in a big way. Our society only has a precarious grip on civilisation and you will get to see a world where it has been largely stripped away in favour of survival. The scenario is a war game exercise to push the capabilities of the program and assess it for levels or realism. The previous defensive scenarios have been a success but we want to see what happens when we project force out into the game world to achieve an objective. At the moment that objective is to seize an Aztech satellite launch facility on Fox Island in the Sound. They will be clinging on to their little fiefdom on the island so you can expect technological and magical resistance. There is a single road link as well as the possibility of a risky aerial assault or an aquatic insertion, or all three... Your starting point will be here at Stillwater in any case. The operational directives will largely be determined by yourselves and we can supply you with a broad range of virtual equipment. Not only that but you don’t have to go into the simulator as yourself... our spiders can do a bit of virtual magic to equip you with entirely new skill sets...so, you’re a desk jockey who always wanted to be a samurai or a master mage? Here’s your chance! You will be a small strike force tasked with seizing the objective and neutralising key defences so that a larger force can move in and occupy it briefly. Now although this is a virtual simulator the SIM levels are running hot and I should warn you there is an element of risk...but then that’s why we are paying you well for your assistance, and there haven’t been any fatalities so far... Are there any questions? If you would like to follow Desire she will take you downstairs to the node room... ...ok, for those of you who are left let me make this clear...we need to make this work! All our scenarios to date have failed and we have upped the ante yet again in a bid to succeed on this mission. This isn’t about testing the program, it’s about being prepared for and surviving what’s to come! We hope that your mixed expertise along with the equipment and skills we will make available to you will be enough.” House Rules & Character Gen [ Spoiler ] UV Node • Some aspects of your character will be constant, for example mental stats and edge. You can, however, respend the remaining BPs at any time by leaving the game world temporarily to respec. As noted in the briefing this allows a samurai to take the mage quality, spells and so on...(see Character Gen below for more details). Note: I haven’t play tested this but I thought it might be fun to experiment with it... • You will use ‘real world’ skills as per UV nodes in Unwired. Skilled hackers / TMs may be able to some degree cheat the UV reality by rolling a logic+software vs the system rating of the node (very high!) any net hits allow you to mimic a skill you don’t have. The UV reality will constantly try to reassert itself so this skill will last for a number of rounds equal to the hits generated. • TMs and AIs with their intuitive grasp of the code can use matrix initiative rather than meat initiative. Hackers can’t as they don’t have access to their real world programs or response cyber etc. • The Simsense reading of your brain means that magic & astral space does exist in the virtual environment. There will be no background count as this hasn’t been simulated (and makes my book keeping easier). • Be warned, I intend this to be an gloriously and exceptionally lethal game and character death in Node should be expected. A Willpower+Edge test will be called for: A glitch will leave you with psychological scarring, a critical glitch will result in actual character death! Assuming survival you will be allowed to rejoin the game with the added bonus of having all edge refreshed and the chance to respend your BPs...otherwise you’ll be able to make an entirely new character (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Books • All books are available. (Including WAR! Mil Spec Tech etc...) Will consider some non RAW stuff provided it has been given the Dumpshock test (ie ranted over in the forums) and I like the look of it... Character Gen Stage 1 • Choose a character name, alias, basic concept & background Stage 2 (optional) • Create a rules legal 400BP character for out of node. All characters start with 20 karma unless they have been previously played on DS pbp in which case they can keep up to 30 karma. All characters will receive Charisma x2 in contacts Stage 3 • Determine your fixed in node stats, which represent your core personality, up to 200BPs. These must include Race, all mental stats, edge and mental qualities (positive and negative). A personal preference is for characters that don’t seem to have been made just for a rules benefit so I would prefer no Surged characters unless it is for character rather than game purposes. Otherwise all race types are allowed provided you can justify what you are doing in Seattle and why you might be hired by Stillwater to test their simulator. Stage 4 • Spend remaining BPs on physical skills, qualities, resources, magical or technomantic abilities etc. All characters must total 400BPs (+/- qualities) as normal with the following modifications: Resources can be bought up to availability 20 with no penalty, or higher if the Restricted Gear quality is taken. Ammo that costs less than 5¥ per round (eg regular, explosive, gel) is free (but please list how much you are carrying on your person) • The karma noted in stage 2 may be spent on initiation and anything else as usual Stage 5 • BPs and karma can be respent during the course of the game in the event of ‘character death’ or if the character ‘logs out’ and returns as a different player. They will either appear with the reserve force and need to make their way forwards to join the group or as a suitable ‘neutral’ NPC with the attacking group (TBC). BP Respend • I will (slowly) create some packages based on the Runner’s toolkit and AH’s PACKS to help out with any BP respend. Take them and modify them to your heart’s content or come up with your own entirely. These will vary in complexity and BP costs and may or may not have skills, qualities and resources lumped into them. Please keep a record of your ‘old’ character when you respend as you may wish to resurrect them later. I think the majority of these will have milspec armour (I think you’ll need it!) – there’s a good DS thread with links to visuals for those that want them <<Here>> • Armour / Weapon Packages [ Spoiler ] • Stealth Gear [50,000¥ / 10BPs] [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: [Body x3 + Str] = 12 to wear without penalty Resources: Softweave Light Milspec Armour [12/10] +Biomonitor +Ruthenium Polymer Coating +Gecko Climbing Tips +Thermal Damping [R:6] +Mobility Upgrade [R:2] +Internal Air Tank [R:1] Helmet [+2/+2] +Military Commlink [4/4] + Custom OS [4/6] +Camera +Image link HUD + Smartlink +Flare Compensation, Lowlight, Thermographic, +Vision Enhancement [R:3] Ingram Smartgun [7P AP -5 BF/FA Rec (4) 40©] +Gas vent 2 +Detachable Folding Stock +Sound Suppressor +High Powered Chambering +Ruthenium Polymer Coating +Electronic Firing + Trigger Removal +Extended Clip +Smartlink +120 APDS Rnds • Tactical Suit [70,000¥ / 19BPs] [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: [Body x3 + Str] = 14 to wear without penalty. Requires Restricted Gear Quality for commlink (included in BP cost) Resources: Softweave Light Milspec Armour [12/10] +Biomonitor +Nonconductivity [R:4] +Fire Resistance [R:4] +Internal Air Tank [R:1] +Chemical Seal +Smart Area Jammer [R:6] +Satellite Uplink Helmet [+2/+2] +MCT Tactical Commlink [7/7]+ Custom OS [6/6] +Slaved Commlink [4/4] + Custom OS [4/6] +Camera +Image link HUD + Smartlink +Flare Compensation +Vision Enhancement [R:1] +Vision Magnification +Mage Sight Goggles • Infantryman [50,000¥ / 10BPs] [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: Body 5 to wear without penalty Resources: Medium Milspec Armour [14/12] +Biomonitor +Mobility Upgrade [R:3] +Wrist Gyromount +Internal Air Tank [R:1] +Chemical Seal Helmet [+2/+2] +Military Commlink [4/4] + Custom OS [4/6] +Camera +Image link HUD + Smartlink +Flare Compensation, Lowlight, Thermographic, +Vision Enhancement [R:3] Ingram White Knight [8P AP -5 BF/FA Rec ((IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) 100 (belt)] +High Powered Chambering +Gas Vent 5 +Smartlink +300 APDS rounds • Fire Support Suit [Heavy Milspec Armour - xxBPs] <<UNDER CONSTRUCTION>> [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: Body 6 to wear without penalty Resources: • Light Mecha [Modified Vehicle - xxBPs] <<UNDER CONSTRUCTION>> [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: All metahumans except Trolls. Form fitting / light armour only inside the mecha Resources: [xxBPs] Dodge Guardian + Walker Mode + 2 Mechanical Arms [Str 8] + Rigger Adaptation + Rigger Cocoon [14000+3000+8000+2500+1500 = 29000¥] • Heavy Mecha [Modified Military Vehicle - - xxBPs] <<UNDER CONSTRUCTION>> [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: All metahumans. Form fitting / light armour only inside the mecha Resources: Skills & Equipment Packages [ Spoiler ] • Leadership Material [Someone with the tactical knowledge and leadership skills required to bring victory - 160BPs] <<UNDER CONSTRUCTION>> [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: Qualities: [10BPs] Guts [+1D to resist fear/intimidation], Trustworthy [+1D to leadership] Skills: [126BPs] Athletics Group [1], Pistols [5], Con [3], Etiquette [2], Leadership [5+1], Negotiation [3], Infiltration [1], Dodge [3], Perception [3+3] Resources: [24BPs] Ware: Attention Coprocessor III [0.3, 9000 ¥], Orientation System [0.2, 1250 ¥] Essence: -0.5 • Master Gunner [Big guns and a bigger attitude! - xxBPs] <<UNDER CONSTRUCTION>> [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: Qualities: Skills: Resources: Ware: Essence: • Super Trooper [You are the mechanised one man army of the future! - xxBPs] <<UNDER CONSTRUCTION>> [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: Qualities: Skills: Resources: Ware: Essence: • Combat Mage [You have the spells to back up your words with a vengeance - xxBPs] <<UNDER CONSTRUCTION>> [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: Qualities: Skills: Resources: Ware: Essence: • Covert Ops [They will never see you coming! - xxBPs] <<UNDER CONSTRUCTION>> [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: Qualities: Skills: Resources: Ware: Essence: • Outrider [It’s all very well being in a tank...you prefer to be in a fast moving tank - xxBPs] <<UNDER CONSTRUCTION>> [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: Qualities: Skills: Resources: Ware: Essence: • Mecha Pilot [Why roll when you can stride?! - xxBPs] <<UNDER CONSTRUCTION>> [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: Qualities: Skills: Resources: Ware: Essence: • Puppet Master [Sometimes it’s better to be out of harm’s way and let your mechanised minions do the talking - xxBPs] <<UNDER CONSTRUCTION>> [ Spoiler ] Assumptions: Qualities: Skills: Resources: Ware: Essence: In Game Events • To reflect the military nature of the game the group will have a number of points to spend on Events that will provide a tactical advantage at some point in the game or a ‘get out of jail free’ card (these don’t need to be predetermined). These represent the Stillwater reserves camped out on the shoreline waiting for the team to secure the objective. • The number of points will be determined by the average edge of the group + the average leadership skill (+1 if someone has leadership 5 and/or a tactics specialisation and +2 if someone has leadership 6). Points can be used at any time in the game for an event and some cost more than others, depending on relative effectiveness. 1 Point Event • Unguided Mortar Strike (thermal smoke or similar to create a distraction or cover) • Guided Mortar Strike (get some use out of those laser designators to rain fire on the foe) • Friendly Infantry Unit (to provide some brief covering fire) • Drone Distraction (to set off alarms or draw fire) • Emergency Evac (for when the shit has really hit the fan, a suitable extract vehicle will pick you up) 2 Point Event • Armour or Helicopter Gunship Attack (Having a tank or chopper swing by at just the right moment…easier than using your man portable heavy weapons for a significant target) • Air Strike (Love the smell of napalm in the morning!) 3 Point Event • Artillery Strike (sustained fire to obliterate a hardened target!) Matrix • Within the node there will be matrix access to connect the mission back to Stillwater and for internal comms and to control drones / vehicles etc. Beyond that it starts to get confusing; the node will model the matrix within the matrix but only to a finite level. Given that it is an apocalyptic world you may or may not find pockets of wireless connectivity. I’m not trying to limit hackers as PCs, but my hacking knowledge is somewhat limited... Any questions or comments please let me know! Particularly keen to hear if you think I've sorted hacker cheating, clarified cha gen and the 'events' section?!?

sabs View Member Profile	May 27 2011, 12:47 PM Post #898
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,996 Joined: 1-June 10 Member No.: 18,649	I like the hacker cheating. it'll be.. hard to do, and certainly very difficult to have more than 1 or 2 hits .. but it might be 'something' Technomancers using matrix IP.. that's.. well, that means they get 3 IP for free. That makes them such better characters. I start as a technomancer, and then I slap on a 'big bruiser' persona. And now I'm a troll with 3 IP for free.

BlackHat View Member Profile	May 27 2011, 12:50 PM Post #899
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180	QUOTE (Aria @ May 27 2011, 06:52 AM) Particularly keen to hear if you think I've sorted hacker cheating, clarified cha gen and the 'events' section?!? Cheating seems much better. Still a good option, but no longer the only option. Giving TMs the matrix initiative but not hackers pretty much means anyone thinking about taking up that option will want to spend the 5 BP to be a TM instead - particularly because none of the "cheating" rules involve your resonance level (it could be 1) or having any particular complex forms (so you don't have to buy any). If the TM wants to function as a hacker in the simulated matrix it might still be a good idea to do so, but otherwise it seems like it would be 5 BP (a little more if you're augmented) for +2 initiative passes, which is a good deal. This is true for any mundane character, really. Character generation is also clearer. It isn't actually said anywhere, but you might want to specify that the 200 BP of "core" character should be a subset of what you developed in the 400 BP out of node character (unless you're willing to allow deviations). The events section section seems fine. It is abstract (which is probably good) but it doesn't require any specific investment in it (raising your edge gives you edge, and this is more of an additional bonus), so I don't think it is as much of a problem that the players won't know the exact stats of the helicopter they might be calling in, etc.

Aria View Member Profile	May 27 2011, 01:00 PM Post #900
Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,258 Joined: 9-March 10 From: The Citadel Member No.: 18,267	QUOTE (sabs @ May 27 2011, 01:47 PM) I like the hacker cheating. it'll be.. hard to do, and certainly very difficult to have more than 1 or 2 hits .. but it might be 'something' Technomancers using matrix IP.. that's.. well, that means they get 3 IP for free. That makes them such better characters. I start as a technomancer, and then I slap on a 'big bruiser' persona. And now I'm a troll with 3 IP for free. Maybe I'm an optimist at heart and don't think anyone would do that just for some points?!? Ok...that one clearly isn't resolved yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) It's part of the feel of the UV node that I've already introduced you to but the mechanics need adjusting! I've also decided to fix 'race' so that mental stats don't jump about...you can play an elf and look like a troll in the UV node but you'll be a decidedly wimpy but charismatic one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by Aria: May 27 2011, 01:04 PM

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