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• Hmmm, Heavenly bodies, moons, tidal lock, complex orbits, synchronous rotation, eccentricity, gravitational attraction, orbital dance, perturbations, elongation. The opportunities appear boundless. Astro.
• Don't go there. Netcat.

• AI's are people too. Puck.
• Oh, pleeeze. Clockwork.
• New forum rule: Only real people are allowed to post. Available specimens of Hobgoblins do not fit my definition of people. Someone want to remove the time bomb? Sticks.
• Maybe the Mechanicals can recycle him. They are into obsolete tech. Snopes.
• Slot off. Clockwork.
• Children. [waves admonishing finger]. Stop baiting the clock. Stop making it so easy. FastJack.

• Too right <us against the world example> <all good neighbors example>. Traveler Jones.

• Discount the capabilities of a group, just because it is classed as an urban tribe at your own risk. Plan 9

• They have converted and renovated several buildings of an industrial complex around 43rd ave SE. No one seems quite sure when they started. Seems to be about 2060. At the time, those buildings were nothing more than squatter hangouts. By 2062 though, they had a solid presence, and were successfully defending the space. Not that there was initially much pressure on them. The space they were defending was of no special interest to other groups. It was easier to go somewhere else just as good, than to contest the tribes claim to the area. That has been changing slowly. The improvements that have been made, including significant rooftop farming, have been attracting covetous eyes from other groups, including various local gangs. Sunshine.
• Not mentioning that they are less than a km from the barrens. On 2 sides. Almost in typical commlink direct signal range. Kay St. Irregular.
• They initially moved in as squatters, quietly displacing existing residents, then made improvements, starting with defences to discourage poaching. They have been careful to keep the ‘value’ of the improvements less than the ‘cost’ to take the space over. Riser.
• The Mechanicals leader is a Rat Shaman. That could help account for their success in keeping their gains. Ethernaut.
• Spindle’s a canny bastard. He’s got his totem’s desire to run and hide in the face of conflict but he wouldn’t have held on to any measure of power without an understanding of how to motivate others to do things for him. He’s a consummate politician, in the worst use of that word. Winterhawk
• That might account for the caution used in the expansion of their operations. Sufficient deterrent can reduce the amount of actual conflict. Riser
• LOL. They aren't a tribe ... the're a "Rat Pack" of "Pack Rats". Jstr
• Could also be the leaked information that the whole place is mined. If someone really pushed hard enough to oust them, BLAMM! No useful resources to take over. They’d rather run than fight but they are prepared to defend what’s theirs. Glitch
• Smarter [group] opponents will know that it takes skill to keep that operation running. They do not need to mine it. Even if the whole tribe just walked off, someone moving in would not get much benefit without the skill walking away with the tribe. Those facilities are built from a patched together jumble of mismatched parts. It would fall apart without their TLC. It would as likely eat a stranger, as provide any liquid assets, or much in the way of ongoing benefits. They are good enough to keep out the usual scum crowds, and most of the 'smart' individuals. Cerberus
• Which is just another way to mine it. DangerSensei
• Yeah! Better to continue to trade for what they are willing to offer, so have something next month or year too. Reality Czech.

• Not all of their output is strictly [or even close to] legal. They also sell interesting things at the Crime Mall made from the salvage. Rigger X.
• Try scavenged as well as salvaged. My intel says some of that is also ‘re-appropriated’, though they do seem to keep that to a minimum. Would not do to have other groups angry at them for more than existing. Reality Czech.

• They do a fair amount of work around the Barrens, seemingly pretty good at avoiding active attention from the gangers and such. Netcat.

• Yeah, they’re good at turning gomi into usable tech. In some very creative ways. Pistons.
  
• That 'comfortable lifestyle' is misleading.
  OoC
  [ Spoiler ]
  compatible lifestyle configuration; better have a very good story to use others

  • Comforts: Street and up
  • Entertainment: Street and up
  • Necessities: Up to Middle - better have a good story to go higher
  • Neighborhood: Low - the one relatively fixed lifestyle item
  • Security: Up to Middle - better have a good story to go higher

  Compatible Lifestyle Qualities:

  • Concerned Neighbors
  • Easy-going Landlord
  • Escape Tunnel
  • Feng Shui
  • Free Access
  • Friendly Neighbors
  • Hasty Exit
  • Homegrown Farming
  • In Tune
  • Inconspicuous Housing
  • Perfect Roommate
  • Privacy Screen(any)
  • Rad Pad
  • Security Conscious
  • Well Made
  • Workplace
  • AI in Residence
  • Ambusher's Delight
  • Black Hole
  • Corporate Owned (non tribal members only)
  • Crash Pad
  • Defective CHN
  • Green Plan
  • Haunted
  • Household Gremlins
  • Lax Security
  • Living by Committee
  • Living with Parents
  • Network Bottlenect
  • No Forwarding Address
  • Nosy Neighbors (especially non tribal members)
  • No Privacy(all)
  • Pest Magnet
  • Poor Neighborhood
  • Sprite Magnet
  • This Isn't Big Bob's Autos
  • Trigger-Happy Landlord (mostly non tribal members)
  • Unsound/Unsafe
  • Worse Neighbors (good story?)

  Commonly Used Qualities:

  • Concerned Neighbors
  • Easy-going Landlord
  • Friendly Neighbors
  • Homegrown Farming
  • Workplace
  • Crash Pad
  • Living by Committee
  • Living with Parents
  How well each member lives depends on how much effort they put into helping the tribe, and how much extra time and skill they have to upgrade the individual units. The tribe has not done full apartment renovations throughout. Only the needed facilities are totally a group effort. You can be sure that the shop space used to process the salvage is going to be up to date, but the same cannot be said of basic living units. The members will have a roof over their head, and food to eat, but beyond that, improvements are done on your own time, or based on your usefulness, productivity, and street cred within the tribe. Sunshine.
• Yep, there are ‘fringe’ members and hangers on that are effectively squatters. Glitch.
• Although they work extensively with technology, on a very small scale, they are mostly recovering resources that are already well past the 'use by' date. They have to be very efficient with their resources. Their whole tribe is a recycling centre. Their farming operation uses fairly high tech, but they are also trying for organic output. I'll give them a {grudging} A for effort on ecological awareness and support. EcoTope.
• Why grudging? Haze.
• They do not really care about the environment. Efficiency and minimal waste are just the best way for them to get the most out of the resources. EcoTope.
• That says a bit about them, but what are they like? Haze.
• I was interested in how the operation worked awhile back, and did a bit of research. Here’s my take attachment. 2XL

• Peer pressure she says. The power goes off to your pad unexpectedly, suddenly no extra tomatoes from the greenhouse. No one available to fix the broken SPU. Yep, that’s peer pressure. Hard Exit.

• Since the area they are claiming is abandoned industrial, with no in place amenities that they do not provide themselves, it is usually not difficult to convince the squatters to look of another crash pad, when the new neighbours become too noisy [or nosy], applying a bit of incentive to move on. The non-tribal hangers-on are normally willing to move a bit further away, to stay in the good graces of their meal ticket, of before they become surrounded by ‘un-friends’. Some of that expansion is from hanger’s on becoming a member, expanding the territory by default. Monkeywrench.
• They do allow a few non-members to live in the converted buildings, but they keep a pretty close eye on them. Red Anya.

• Family and community is important to them too. They provide decent education for the kids, and training resources to members. Those that are willing to make the effort to learn anyway. Home schooling, and a lot of virtual classroom stuff, but what isn't now? Snoops.
• They do emphasize practical skills, not completely matching public curriculum. Just passing through their node, I noticed an upcoming seminar posted, "Building a Crossbow from Common Construction materials". /dev/grrl/.
• Passing through? They are at the south edge of Puyallup, next to the barrens. Where could you have possibly been passing through to? Slamm-O!.
• Privileged Information. /dev/grrl/
• Being able to find and acquire usable salvage, and get it back home is also a useful skill. Need enough tech smarts to recognize potential value, but in some areas, being quiet and sneaky can be vital. Think Indian Scout for those not too history impaired. A larger work party can come back later to pick up bigger things, if they are quick, before the other 'natives' get organized to contest ownership. Glitch.
• It would be reasonably accurate to compare them to nomadic hunter/gatherer societies from centuries ago. With modern transportation capabilities, they do not need to move the 'home lodge' while gathering the salvage that is the food fuelling them. With the dross being expelled by the larger sprawl, there has been no problem with over hunting, and needing to move to a new range. Some would compare them to old style wind powered pirates with an island base. That would not be accurate. While there are cases where members would have picked up 'salvage' through questionable means, in the main they work from discarded and abandoned materials. They do the work themselves, not taking from the effort of someone else. Historian.
• Salvaging from empty buildings is still theft. Somebody still owns it. Wyrm Watcher.
• Pretentions of morality? Practicing for a bar exam? Marcos.
• Maybe owned on paper. Sometimes. Given what the crash did to records, ‘who’ is often unclear. They mostly avoid places where someone with a ‘legitimate’ claim is showing continued interest. In a lot of cases, the ‘owner’ should thank them. Any future ‘official’ interest in their targets is likely to start with a wrecking ball. Mr. Bonds.

• A first cut tribal evaluation is done before the initial invite. Whoever proposes a new member will do so internally before the prospective member knows anything about it. The invite may or may not come from the member who proposed the new person. They may never know who initially proposed them, although Spindle will have a large say in the approval. Kat o' Nine Tales.
• Trial memberships may be offered to those without much in the way of directly useful skills, if someone sees enough potential for the future. There does not seem to be a simple evaluation checklist. 2XL.

• And for ‘protection insurance’. Smiling Bandit.
• That farming is pretty hi-tech. Good use of some of that salvage. Turbo Bunny.

• That’s for sure. I picked up this crazy looking holo projector from them one time. Totally ancient 2D flat screen look, with moving mechanical linkages, but when activated, holo pops up just fine. Pistons.
• The style is called steampunk. Turbo Bunny.

• Right, Basically ‘protection’ payments. Icarus.
• It does help cut down on the competing protectors. The devil you know. Black Mamba.
• Or is that keep your friends close? DangerSensei.
• The low population density, is due to all of the shop space they use for processing the salvage, and to build the ‘toys’ found at the Crime Mall. Seems like every other member has some sort of shop. Monkeywrench.

• I’ll say. Had a target suspected to be hiding on their turf one time. Did some research to see what a hard extract would take. Found out there could be fixed checkpoints, armed roving patrols, spirits, mages, roving sensor and combat drones, building sensors with spider and patrolling IC. The could be is because it keeps changing. Typically there are only a couple of items active from that at any one time due to the available resources and limited population to pull from. The roving patrol might be a couple of kids with squealers, or it could be heavily cybered combat veterans. The spirit could be a watcher, or major fire spirit with a flaming chip on its shoulder. The spider could be a kid in AR watching the cameras manually, or a professional that would qualify for work at a triple-A. The drones might be a simple repurposed garden weeder, or a heavily customized combat drone. It all depends on just when, and which particular building you are interested in. If your luck holds on the timing, null sweat, but if the lady figures your karma needs some payback, you might wish it was just a corp fire team. Turned out we did not even need to try. One of their ‘concerned citizens’ spotted the gonk trying to steal from a greenhouse. They escorted him out [with bruises], leaving a beacon on him inviting any interested parties to collect the little drek. A little reminder for others. Monkeywrench.
• The matrix resources, not part of but available, to the group have recently increased. They are on friendly terms with the Fre?dom tribe that took over the South Hill mall just north of them earlier this year. Common Interest in tech, but not competing for resources. FastJack.