 Shadowrun 5 & a lot more in 2013! |
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 May 6 2013, 08:39 AM
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#2001
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The ShadowComedian  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525  |
QUOTE (DMiller @ May 6 2013, 09:33 AM)  In the past it has been considered poilte to warn people if a TVTropes link is included (due to the amount of time wasted on the site). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But the times they are a changing . . |
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May 6 2013, 08:43 AM
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#2002
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 20-December 12 Member No.: 66,005 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 6 2013, 01:39 AM) But the times they are a changing . . *looks at Stahlseele's avatar pic* ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaFT6RVz5w4 |
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May 6 2013, 10:57 AM
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#2003
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (DMiller @ May 6 2013, 02:33 AM) In the past it has been considered poilte to warn people if a TVTropes link is included (due to the amount of time wasted on the site). Polite, here???
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May 6 2013, 01:44 PM
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#2004
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
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May 6 2013, 02:19 PM
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#2005
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Tashiro @ May 5 2013, 10:25 AM) Or, like me, use all the rules in 4E, and don't sweat it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Pretty Much... |
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May 6 2013, 02:33 PM
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#2006
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,768 Joined: 31-October 08 From: Redmond (Yes, really) Member No.: 16,558 |
Can't wait!
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May 6 2013, 05:17 PM
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#2007
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Target Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 21-August 05 From: France Member No.: 7,584 |
I can wait.
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May 6 2013, 05:37 PM
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#2008
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Archaos @ May 6 2013, 10:17 AM) I can wait. Me Too... A Long Time, even... |
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May 6 2013, 06:04 PM
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#2009
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Good ol' Germany Member No.: 7,015 |
I will have to wait even longer
with a German Dance Medicineman |
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May 6 2013, 09:00 PM
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#2010
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,089 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Aaron @ May 5 2013, 05:23 PM) There's no plebtonium necessary. We already do it in real life. All you need is a strictly controlled, tightly regulated network. You know, something draconian and oppressive in its implementation. So somebody jumped on the cloud bandwagon. While that would explain how matrix uplinks improve image processing, it does not really account for better chemsuits (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And as I said to RHat, I'd be far more interested in a good reason why a hacker should be able to make people see things by waving his hands... |
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May 6 2013, 09:30 PM
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#2011
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 6 2013, 04:00 PM) So somebody jumped on the cloud bandwagon. While that would explain how matrix uplinks improve image processing, it does not really account for better chemsuits (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And as I said to RHat, I'd be far more interested in a good reason why a hacker should be able to make people see things by waving his hands... Without a resistance test or drain, I might add. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif) |
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May 6 2013, 11:57 PM
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#2012
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 6 2013, 04:00 PM) So somebody jumped on the cloud bandwagon. While that would explain how matrix uplinks improve image processing, it does not really account for better chemsuits (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Like I said, I should stop posting before I really break my NDA. But if you're going to Origins, catch me there and I'll be happy to explain how I see it. Or come to the Why Shadowrun is Awesome seminar at Gen Con and catch me afterward. Or, if you want to get me in trouble, ask Jason at the CGL booth. =i) QUOTE And as I said to RHat, I'd be far more interested in a good reason why a hacker should be able to make people see things by waving his hands... It doesn't ... hmrrrr ... must ... not ... post ... NDA ... gaaaaaaahhhhhh....... |
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May 7 2013, 01:25 AM
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#2013
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,962 Joined: 27-February 13 Member No.: 76,875 |
Simple: One of the design problems they're after is, quite clearly, poor integration of the hacker into a run leading to the "decker in the basement" thing - it's the same reason for the noise mechanic. Of course, I rather suspect you're mistaken about the particulars of how it works.
And what gives you the idea that there's no resistance test, binary? |
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May 7 2013, 01:43 AM
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#2014
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Aaron @ May 6 2013, 06:57 PM) It doesn't ... hmrrrr ... must ... not ... post ... NDA ... gaaaaaaahhhhhh....... Stay in the light, Aaron.
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May 7 2013, 04:31 AM
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#2015
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ May 6 2013, 08:43 PM) Stay in the light, Aaron. Join the Dark Side. We have cookies! |
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May 7 2013, 08:59 AM
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#2016
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 21-August 08 From: France Member No.: 16,265 |
QUOTE (RHat @ May 7 2013, 03:25 AM) Simple: One of the design problems they're after is, quite clearly, poor integration of the hacker into a run leading to the "decker in the basement" thing - it's the same reason for the noise mechanic. Of course, I rather suspect you're mistaken about the particulars of how it works. And what gives you the idea that there's no resistance test, binary? Isn't suspension of disbelief an even more important design vector? While mechanically, it's a good idea, it's a good one for a tabletop game. But I don' t see how it could be credible. There will be flaming about that. As a GM I don't see how to be credible to explain how unwired is styuff is 200% better. Some gear might have an explenation but not everything. Oh gamewise, people will simply take 2 guns. Wired one and unwired one. And if Ares want to retake their power after their failure, they could sell a Predator with a wire/wireless switch. Well well, not convinced at all. Neither am I about why MUST a hacker have an impact on fights. Their previous idea already was a good one to drag them into action. But in fights? |
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May 7 2013, 09:05 AM
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#2017
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,962 Joined: 27-February 13 Member No.: 76,875 |
I'm not inclined to judge the flavour aspect at this point - we simply don't have the information to do so.
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May 7 2013, 10:16 AM
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#2018
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,089 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (RHat @ May 7 2013, 02:25 AM) Simple: One of the design problems they're after is, quite clearly, poor integration of the hacker into a run leading to the "decker in the basement" thing Mechanics for getting the hacker on site already exist and will be expanded in 5th (more tiered matrix and the noise mechanic), combat hacking adds little to that. Making hackable devices omnipresent at best has nothing to do with that, at worst it counteracts the whole concept, because what good is a highly isolated PLTG if I'm in ur eyes, reading all ur datas? @Aaron: If I ever met Hardy, I'd probably be too busy dreadsocking him to ask any questions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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May 7 2013, 11:56 AM
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#2019
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
QUOTE (sk8bcn @ May 7 2013, 03:59 AM) While mechanically, it's a good idea, it's a good one for a tabletop game. But I don' t see how it could be credible. There will be flaming about that. As a GM I don't see how to be credible to explain how unwired is styuff is 200% better. Some gear might have an explenation but not everything. In that case, it's all good because not everyth... Hey, Bull, what are you doing here? What's with the scalpel? OH MY GOD IS THAT A CORTEX BOMB?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAsleepy*thunk* |
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May 7 2013, 12:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 21-August 08 From: France Member No.: 16,265 |
Hey well, I'm not the kind to burn everything down before seeing it. It's more about what the blog entry explained. If the explanation is good of the gameplay idea and doesn't lower the suspension of disbielief, it's great.
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May 7 2013, 12:14 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,089 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
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May 7 2013, 02:42 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
QUOTE (RHat @ May 6 2013, 08:25 PM) And what gives you the idea that there's no resistance test, binary? Well, gear's not a player, so it doesn't have pools to resist with, just device rating and firewall rating if any. Despite, you know, having been paid for with Essence. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif) The thing I find most hilarious here is that even Unwired mentions, both in the fluff and crunch sections, how bad of an idea cyberware hacking becoming a major thing is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif) |
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May 7 2013, 02:44 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,647 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
You're still assuming current mechanics. And assuming more, based on your personal perception. But that's how the internet works, after all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) #
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May 7 2013, 02:44 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
Quote Is Not Edit
Edit : You know, you're right. I'm sure they're going to come up with a logically consistent and rules compatible reason why everything in the world is now mysteriously hackable. Just about the same time that submarine sails into Bogota. |
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May 7 2013, 03:15 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,647 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
The point is not that I'm sure of anything.
The thing is that your postings generally (if at all) contain nothing worthwhile, just baseless assumptions, allegations and negativity. If you were able to package your criticism in a well thought out argument, like others here do, it'd be constructive. Yours is just spite and not really even near the point where I'd call it criticism at all. I dislike mindless yes-men and fanboys/girls just as much as constant naysayers. |
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