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Recruitment: Another Shadowrun 5 game starting, Witty name for the campaign coming soon

RelentlessImp View Member Profile	Jul 15 2013, 11:38 PM Post #101
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 7-September 10 Member No.: 19,020	That's a much more solid basis for the argument than the one line I was pointing to. bookmarks his PDF And Paws doesn't have any cash left to chip in on a shared living space; and he really, really wouldn't want to share it, in case these people who are dangerous, semi-psychopathic criminals find out about his current SIN in good standing and decide to teach the 'corporate brat' a lesson.

Mister Juan View Member Profile	Jul 15 2013, 11:52 PM Post #102
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,987 Joined: 1-March 05 From: République Libre du Québec Member No.: 7,129	QUOTE (RelentlessImp @ Jul 15 2013, 06:38 PM) That's a much more solid basis for the argument than the one line I was pointing to. bookmarks his PDF And Paws doesn't have any cash left to chip in on a shared living space; and he really, really wouldn't want to share it, in case these people who are dangerous, semi-psychopathic criminals find out about his current SIN in good standing and decide to teach the 'corporate brat' a lesson. HAHAHAH That's quite fine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If I remember correctly, I think everyone on the team has a legal SIN (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Slide View Member Profile	Jul 15 2013, 11:52 PM Post #103
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 12-July 13 Member No.: 127,215	well technicaly its an auto motive build/repair facility, and I have a shop in my van. i have level 2 in engineering and a high logic, so with AR and no penalties for conditions i should be able to throw 9 dice at build/repair most things. Now as a player i know that I shouldn't allow illigeal shenanigans to go on in my place of buisness. But I think Breaker is a bit more deficient in worldly wisdom than me.

RelentlessImp View Member Profile	Jul 15 2013, 11:56 PM Post #104
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 7-September 10 Member No.: 19,020	QUOTE (Mister Juan @ Jul 15 2013, 05:52 PM) HAHAHAH That's quite fine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If I remember correctly, I think everyone on the team has a legal SIN (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Legal, yeah; but how many of them are still in good stead with the Company? Still employed? They're all on the outs, on their way out, or effectively retired from the Company business, and I'm just getting started towards the Company life. Breeds envy, hate, jealousy, or just outright murder-thoughts.

Mister Juan View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 12:00 AM Post #105
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,987 Joined: 1-March 05 From: République Libre du Québec Member No.: 7,129	On a different note, I think we've already established that Breaker and George are "friends", and that George helped Paws at least once in the past. Having George hide him out for a time, like you've mentioned in your short fiction post, would totaly be in character for George, especially considering the fact that Paws is young and that George has kids. Any other connections? I wouldn't be against saying that George actually enlisted Paws and Breaker for a job, a while back, and that the team (or at least this particular trio) started out that way.

RelentlessImp View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 12:01 AM Post #106
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 7-September 10 Member No.: 19,020	That sounds alright to me; let George be the talent finder and the rest of us the talent. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Slide View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 02:50 AM Post #107
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 12-July 13 Member No.: 127,215	[ Spoiler ] Priorities Column1 A 450K B Attributes 20 C Skills 28/2 D Human (3) E Magic Body 2 AGI 2 REA 3(5) STR 3 WIL 5 LOG 5 INT 5 CHA 5(7) Edg 5 ESS 3.2 INI 8+1d6 mental 7 Physical 5 Social 5(7) Condition Physical 9 Stun 11 Overflow 2 Hot sim ini 10+3d6 Cold sim ini 10+4d6 Contacts Conection Loyalty Junkyard owner 2 4 Knight errant Lt. 3 1 Weapon Smugler 3 2 Knowladge skills Physics 2 Architecture 4 Classic Cars 2 Smuggling Routs 2 Jack Point 2 Combat Biking 3 Mechanical theory 5 English N Skills: Active: Engineering 2 Aeronautics Mechanic Automotive Mechanic Industrial Mechanic Nautical Mechanic Pilot Ground Craft 5 Pilot Aircraft 2 Con 5 Negotiation 4 Perception 5 Demolitions 3 Pistols 3 Gunnary (Hot Sim) 5(7) Rigger Gear Ratting 2 Control Rig rating data processing Fire Wall Vulcan Liegelord 5 5 6 Vehicles and drones Name Handl Speed Accel Body Armor Sensor Seats Pilot GMC Bulldog 3*3 3 1 16 12 1 6 1 B/R Shop in the van Shiawase Kanmushi 4 2 1 0 0 3 3 MCT Fly-Spy 4 3 2 1 0 3 3 GM-Nissan Doberman 5 3 1 4 4 3 3 Ares Alphas on both Dobermans with 125 explosive ammo each Steel Lynx 5 4 2 6 12 3 3 Ares Alpha w/250 ADPS rounds and Arm Tech MGL-12 w/50 teargas gernades Gear Vehicle and Drone B/R Facility 50000 Shop 5000 GMC Bulldog 35000 Rigger interface 1000 Rating 2 control rig 97000 Vulcan Liegelord RCC 66000 Flyspies 2000 Shiawas Kanmushi x2 2000 Nissan Doberman x2 5000 Steel Lynx x1 25000 Ares Alpha x3 7950 tear gas gernades x 50 3000 ArmTech MGL-12 5000 APDS Ammo x250 3000 exolosive ammo x250 2000 "EPI PATCH" (trauma) x2 1000 Cyber Eyes 3 10000 1 Flare Compensation 1000 2 Lowlight 1500 3 Smartlink 4000 6 Vision enhancment 2 8000 Reaction Enhancer 2 26000 Tailored Pheremons 2 62000 Lined coat -9 900 Fake Sin 3 7500 Lifestyle Low 2000 Lifestlye Mid 5000 Autosoft Targeting (Ares Alpha) 4 2000 Autosoft Clear Sight 4 2000 Autosoft Stealth (flyspy) 4 2000 Autosoft Electronic Warfare 4 2000 Autosoft Targeting (MGL-12) 4 2000 Autosoft Evasion (steel lynx) 2000 Autosoft Manuver (steel lynx) 2000 Biofeedback Filter 250 Guard 250 Signal Scrub 250 Encryption 250 Leftover 150 25 Qualities 25 Extreme Allergy: Peanuts -10 Jurry Rigger Body and agi to 2 =20 karma pilot aircraft 2 demo 3 = 18 karma 4000 nuyen =2 karma Rigger info AR +1 to handling VR +2 to handling Thresholds - Controlrig rating (2) Drone attacks with pilot+targeting<Acuracy> Handling and speed get a bonus equal to control rig rating Gunnary + logic 13 dice for hotsim

JonathanC View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 06:05 AM Post #108
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 10-August 02 Member No.: 3,083	Stats forthcoming, but I wanted to get an opinion on this background. [ Spoiler ] Bit Lee is originally from Hong Kong. Aside from the assumption that both of her parents were living there around the time of her birth, she knows very little of her origins. She was found near the wreckage of a BTL den after a fire, and without a SIN there was no way to place her in an orphanage, so she grew up on the streets, relying on her wits, luck, and the occasional kindness of local street vendors. She was always good with technology, and her first scam was cleaning up old, used BTLs and re-selling them to junkies. She got very good at running, doing that scam. Bit Lee isn't from Hong Kong. That story is lifted straight from the plot of an HK drama she pirated a couple of weeks ago when she was bored. Everyone loves a good story, and Bit Lee has plenty of them. She's got little in the way of a paper trail to confirm her real background, but if you ask her for the real story, this is what she'll tell you: Bit Lee is originally from The Valley. The one where they make all the dirty trids and chips in California. Her parents are self-obsessed glamor types who spent most of her childhood at the gym or the salon ensuring that their good looks were as well-preserved as possible. Her best friend in grade school was rendered unrecognizable by plastic surgery by the time they reached high school. She fancies herself above the shallow people she grew up with, but the reality is that despite her intelligence, her talent with software and engineering, and the advantages she was born into, she's just a trust fund kid with a BTL habit who ran away to the Shadows because it seemed like fun. But don't tell her that. The last time someone did, she threw a fit that ended with her taking a ridiculously risky job in Vegas that landed her on the floor of a cheap motel room with a cerebral hemorrhage that almost killed her. Bit Lee left the PCC behind and hitchhiked her way north, passing herself off as a BTL dealer from Hong Kong. Despite her pretensions towards neo-anarchism, anyone familiar with corp culture could easily pick her out as a Horizon kid from So-Cal, from her bleach-blonde faux-hawk to her designer sneakers. The only reason her friends put up with her is that despite her hipster tendencies, her skills are legit and she isn't nearly as awful a person as you'd expect. But goddamn, she really needs to lay off the chips.

Slide View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 06:11 AM Post #109
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 12-July 13 Member No.: 127,215	Works out well. I like the cover story.

Mister Juan View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 06:25 AM Post #110
Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,987 Joined: 1-March 05 From: République Libre du Québec Member No.: 7,129	QUOTE (JonathanC @ Jul 16 2013, 01:05 AM) Stats forthcoming, but I wanted to get an opinion on this background. [ Spoiler ] Bit Lee is originally from Hong Kong. Aside from the assumption that both of her parents were living there around the time of her birth, she knows very little of her origins. She was found near the wreckage of a BTL den after a fire, and without a SIN there was no way to place her in an orphanage, so she grew up on the streets, relying on her wits, luck, and the occasional kindness of local street vendors. She was always good with technology, and her first scam was cleaning up old, used BTLs and re-selling them to junkies. She got very good at running, doing that scam. Bit Lee isn't from Hong Kong. That story is lifted straight from the plot of an HK drama she pirated a couple of weeks ago when she was bored. Everyone loves a good story, and Bit Lee has plenty of them. She's got little in the way of a paper trail to confirm her real background, but if you ask her for the real story, this is what she'll tell you: Bit Lee is originally from The Valley. The one where they make all the dirty trids and chips in California. Her parents are self-obsessed glamor types who spent most of her childhood at the gym or the salon ensuring that their good looks were as well-preserved as possible. Her best friend in grade school was rendered unrecognizable by plastic surgery by the time they reached high school. She fancies herself above the shallow people she grew up with, but the reality is that despite her intelligence, her talent with software and engineering, and the advantages she was born into, she's just a trust fund kid with a BTL habit who ran away to the Shadows because it seemed like fun. But don't tell her that. The last time someone did, she threw a fit that ended with her taking a ridiculously risky job in Vegas that landed her on the floor of a cheap motel room with a cerebral hemorrhage that almost killed her. Bit Lee left the PCC behind and hitchhiked her way north, passing herself off as a BTL dealer from Hong Kong. Despite her pretensions towards neo-anarchism, anyone familiar with corp culture could easily pick her out as a Horizon kid from So-Cal, from her bleach-blonde faux-hawk to her designer sneakers. The only reason her friends put up with her is that despite her hipster tendencies, her skills are legit and she isn't nearly as awful a person as you'd expect. But goddamn, she really needs to lay off the chips. That's a really nice background (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm almost jealous I didn't think of it before (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

RelentlessImp View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 12:37 PM Post #111
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 7-September 10 Member No.: 19,020	Gotta love a good chip-head.

RelentlessImp View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 12:43 PM Post #112
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 7-September 10 Member No.: 19,020	QUOTE (Slide) -snip- Breaker checks out. Nothing needs changing.

imperialus View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 01:06 PM Post #113
Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769	Ok, all, sorry for the lack of an update yesterday. Worked a closing shift, and I'm turning around to an opening this morning. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleepy.gif) Banking hours ain't what they used to be (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Anyhow, to hammer through a few rules things before I head off to work, though it looks like you guys did a pretty good job sorting them out. 1) The autosoft's costing 500 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) /rating seems perfectly reasonable. 2) Sorry about the confusion re-skillpoints vs. skillgroups. I was actually able to look at the book, and my reading of it now matches the consensus that the number of points you get to spend in skillgroups is indeed extra. Big thanks to Restless Imp for doing all the number crunching with the characters. To be perfectly honest, picking apart characters has always been a weak point of mine in Shadowrun, and I've spent more of my time reading through the various gameplay chapters, and doing prep work for the run itself rather than reading the chargen stuff. At any rate, things seem to be coming along nicely. I like the synergies that are developing between the characters, particularly George. I should be good to get started as soon as you guys are.

Slacker View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 01:08 PM Post #114
Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,420 Joined: 30-October 03 Member No.: 5,776	QUOTE (Slacker @ Jul 15 2013, 01:36 PM) Here's a link to my character: Saburo Masao (aka. Jengo) Priority System: A: Skills B: Attributes C: Nuyen D: Metatype E: Magic/Resonance Carried over 695 nuyen from buying gear and rolled 17x100 for my starting nuyen based on my Middle Lifestyle. No karma was carried over. Haven't come up with names for my contacts yet, but all do that as part of my backstory. Just remembered this morning that I forgot to add 2 more knowledge skills when i bumped up my intuition right before finishing the character. I've added 2 points of Russian language as his fixer contact is also a member of the Vory.

imperialus View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 01:10 PM Post #115
Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769	QUOTE (JonathanC @ Jul 16 2013, 12:05 AM) Stats forthcoming, but I wanted to get an opinion on this background. Nicely done. I like it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

RelentlessImp View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 01:12 PM Post #116
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 7-September 10 Member No.: 19,020	QUOTE (imperialus @ Jul 16 2013, 07:06 AM) 2) Sorry about the confusion re-skillpoints vs. skillgroups. I was actually able to look at the book, and my reading of it now matches the consensus that the number of points you get to spend in skillgroups is indeed extra. It really makes Skills A incredibly attractive. I think they've done a really good job with the priority system by making all the As something you'd like, all the Bs being good enough, all the Cs really hitting that 'middle of the road' feel (especially as you can cover up for a Magic/Resonance C with a Metatype A or B), and D and E being the 'weak' points. I'm really liking 5E's priority chargen if you couldn't tell. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE (Slacker @ Jul 16 2013, 07:08 AM) Just remembered this morning that I forgot to add 2 more knowledge skills when i bumped up my intuition right before finishing the character. I've added 2 points of Russian language as his fixer contact is also a member of the Vory. If you can add where you've spent your karma somewhere; that's the one weak point I've got with looking characters over, I can't guess where karma got spent.

imperialus View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 01:16 PM Post #117
Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 769	QUOTE (Raiden @ Jul 15 2013, 02:12 PM) Just read I can cast a non combat spell as a simple. Then. Shoot/attack as a simple... epic! Where did you see that? All I'm seeing is the "reckless spellcasting" option on p281 that lets you cast a spell (of any type) as a simple action but at a cost of +3 drain

RelentlessImp View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 01:30 PM Post #118
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 7-September 10 Member No.: 19,020	You're limited to one attack action per pass; so casting a spell that affects yourself (for +3 drain) then firing a shot off works. Throwing a Stunbolt and then shooting doesn't.

Slacker View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 01:33 PM Post #119
Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,420 Joined: 30-October 03 Member No.: 5,776	QUOTE (RelentlessImp @ Jul 16 2013, 07:12 AM) It really makes Skills A incredibly attractive. I think they've done a really good job with the priority system by making all the As something you'd like, all the Bs being good enough, all the Cs really hitting that 'middle of the road' feel (especially as you can cover up for a Magic/Resonance C with a Metatype A or B), and D and E being the 'weak' points. I'm really liking 5E's priority chargen if you couldn't tell. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) If you can add where you've spent your karma somewhere; that's the one weak point I've got with looking characters over, I can't guess where karma got spent. 4 Karma spent on Ambidextrous 11 Karma spent on First Impression Positive Quality 25 karma gained on Corporate SINner 10 Karma spent raising Body from 1 to 2 25 Karma spent raising Logic from 1 to 3 For nuyen, started with 140,000 from my priority choice and I spent: Monofilament Whip: -10,000 Tailord Pheromones: -93000 Ares Viper Slivergun (with added integral smartgun): -750 Added Gas Vent Rtg3: -600 Concealable Holster: -150 120 flechette Rounds: -780 3 extra clips: -15 3 Flash-paks: - 375 Actioneer Business Clothes: -1500 -Added Electrochromic clothing option: -500 -Added Nonconductivity Rtg6 -1500 Internal Commlink (Transys Avalon): -7000 Fake SIN Rtg 4: -10000 Datajack: -1000 Medkit Rtg 6: -1500 5 doses of Jazz: -375 Glasses [Capacity 4]: -400 -Flare comp: -250 -Vision Enhancement Rtg 3: -1500 Contacts [Capacity 3] -600 -Smartlink -2000 -Low-light -500 Middle Lifestyle -5000

RelentlessImp View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 01:45 PM Post #120
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 7-September 10 Member No.: 19,020	QUOTE (Slacker @ Jul 15 2013, 01:36 PM) Here's a link to my character: Saburo Masao (aka. Jengo) Priority System: A: Skills B: Attributes C: Nuyen D: Metatype E: Magic/Resonance Carried over 695 nuyen from buying gear and rolled 17x100 for my starting nuyen based on my Middle Lifestyle. No karma was carried over. Haven't come up with names for my contacts yet, but all do that as part of my backstory. You've spent 44 of 46 skill points (but all 10 of your skill groups) QUOTE Escape Artist 2 (2) Exotic Melee Weapon [mf whip] 5 (5) Pistols 3 (3) Sneaking 4 (4) Pilot Groundcraft 4 (4) Con 6 (6) Impersonation 4 (4) Leadership 6 (6) Disguise 2 (2) Perception 6 (6) Forgery 2 (2) 2+5+3+4+4+6+4+6+2+6+2 = 44. You've spent 14/12 Knowledges (Logic is 1 at chargen when you hit the Skill step, so ([5+1]*2)). 16/12 with the +2 Russian you stated. Everything else looks alright.

Slacker View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 01:50 PM Post #121
Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,420 Joined: 30-October 03 Member No.: 5,776	QUOTE (RelentlessImp @ Jul 16 2013, 07:45 AM) You've spent 44 of 46 skill points (but all 10 of your skill groups) 2+5+3+4+4+6+4+6+2+6+2 = 44. You've spent 14/12 Knowledges (Logic is 1 at chargen when you hit the Skill step, so ([5+1]*2)). 16/12 with the +2 Russian you stated. Everything else looks alright. I guess I forgot to add my First Aid 2 on that character sheet. That takes up the missing 2 skill points.

RelentlessImp View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 01:54 PM Post #122
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 7-September 10 Member No.: 19,020	I think that takes care of everyone who's got mechanics up to this point. That's Slacker, Mister Juan, Slide, Raiden; just waiting on JohnathanC.

Slacker View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 02:00 PM Post #123
Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,420 Joined: 30-October 03 Member No.: 5,776	QUOTE (Slacker @ Jul 16 2013, 07:50 AM) I guess I forgot to add my First Aid 2 on that character sheet. That takes up the missing 2 skill points. Character sheet has been corrected with the missing First Aid skill and the addition of Russian language: Jengo

RelentlessImp View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 02:04 PM Post #124
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 251 Joined: 7-September 10 Member No.: 19,020	QUOTE (Slacker @ Jul 16 2013, 09:00 AM) Character sheet has been corrected with the missing First Aid skill and the addition of Russian language: Jengo You're still over on Knowledges, unless I'm missing something. Anything you do in Step 7: Spend your Leftover Karma does not affect things in the previous steps; in Step Five: Purchase Skills, Subheading Knowledge and Language Skills, you calculate your Knowledge skill total, which at this point (in which your Logic is still 1) is 12. Whether or not it's retroactive isn't discussed, so... I think it becomes a GM call whether or not it's retroactive, but by strict procedural order raising Log to 3 in the Karma step doesn't affect your free Knowledge/Language skills.

Slacker View Member Profile	Jul 16 2013, 02:25 PM Post #125
Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,420 Joined: 30-October 03 Member No.: 5,776	QUOTE (RelentlessImp @ Jul 16 2013, 08:04 AM) You're still over on Knowledges, unless I'm missing something. Anything you do in Step 7: Spend your Leftover Karma does not affect things in the previous steps; in Step Five: Purchase Skills, Subheading Knowledge and Language Skills, you calculate your Knowledge skill total, which at this point (in which your Logic is still 1) is 12. Whether or not it's retroactive isn't discussed, so... I think it becomes a GM call whether or not it's retroactive, but by strict procedural order raising Log to 3 in the Karma step doesn't affect your free Knowledge/Language skills. Ah....that's where I'm going wrong, I was thinking knowledge skills were bought after I spent Karma. I'll correct. Russian is removed, Japanese and High Society reduced by 1.

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