Clearly I am not, but if the implication I don't understand what the text states is something you require to argue your point, have at it, sir!


"Common features" but not the only ones. I don't see rules about how often "occasionally" occurs, can you provide a page citation?

The implications are quite obvious. In fact, they're stated clearly in the rules text:

Very, very simple.

Surely, but it does not just stop working. It stops working spectacularly. Smoking, strange noises, rebooting, fire, whatever.
Just my two (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) on the matter.

I imagine having your light-up suit flash out your bank account and PIN and then shut down would be a considerable faux pas.

You cannot see form-sitting beneath other clothes (they are under the clothing after all), so the -6 penalty to notice makes sense there.
Or are you saying that the FFB armor wouldn't matter because the clothing has armor? If the latter, I agree, assuming they do not do something with it that will allow it to work (which looks like they are not, at least currently).

"Common" and "universal" are very different things. Failing spectacularly does not require those features.

Define any sort of failure, spectacular or otherwise, that would occur when your replacement spinal cord "stops working" that doesn't render the user paralyzed.

I'm saying hidden armor is not a benefit if people assume all clothing is armored because vashion island or whatever you are wearing, has an armored version of that. Basically a hold out being easy to conceal is not a perk if every guard, cop, door man etc looks at you and says even though I can't see it I assume you are armed because its easy to conceal guns. Therefore I will frisk you and make sure. Similarly if armor is a no no in room X it being hidden is meaningless if everyone assumes you are armored and take steps to confirm past a visual check. If wearing armor is something that would stand out in the first place which I don't think it is.

Um when what is failing is the part that enhances your reflexes past human and not the rest? It is something you can turn off and on after all, so I can easily see basic functions working but the enhanced part not working. Like my last car the fan worked but only the 1st two speeds of it did, speed 3 and 4 just blew as fast as 2.

You mean the whole "replaces your spinal cord with superconducting materials that transmit signals faster" stops "transmitting signals faster" and just "transmits signals"?

Yeah.

That makes no sense.

Probably something like dropping from sixth gear to first while going down the highway at speed - your perception of everything around you is suddenly and dramatically slowed down.

Given that it clearly has an on off feature for the enhanced past human part, clearly it does make sense. I can think of tons of things in life that partially break and not totally break. You have spinal pathway #1 it transmits at normal human speeds, when it opens up spinal pathway 2-3 you have turned it on and now have beyond human reaction. You hack it, it bricks and spinal pathway 2-3 break but #1 which is not connected to the internet and on a physically separate path from 2-3 remains safe.

In that scenario, there's probably some system of complete isolation and insulation protecting something very similar to the normal paths.

Why wireless bonuses suck, thread #46282

Sadly it's going to keep coming up. When a primary system mechanic stinks this badly, it overlaps into other system discussions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

The technomancer cast Otto's Irresistible Dance?

http://youtu.be/tBJNYdHPcDE

So bricking a gun with smartlink only breaks the smartlink then?

Wow, these wireless bonuses are awesome! There's no risk involved at all! I enable them and if they get hacked, oops it's just one piece of gear that loses its bonus, rather than starting with them all disabled!

Thanks!

Yeah, that's amazing! I mean, as long as I have a 'backup' mechanical firing mechanism, clearly my guns can't be bricked at all!

Just say "NO!" to Wireless... your life will be easier for it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It's called consistency. And people are not using it.



> "Oh wired reflexes has an off switch, therefore clearly bricking it doesn't leave you paralyzed."

My gun still works when I turn off the smartgun system. Does it sti--

> "No."

Why not?

> "Because it was bricked. Bricked. No longer functions. Broken. Needs to be repaired."

But wired reflexes.

> "Off switch. There's a redundant system that's immune to bricking."

...

That's it.. I am just going back to ROCKS.

Use them for melee, throw them or use a sling for range...

Or maybe become a rigger and just dri-

*Rigger 5 released*

COOL! wait a se-

*Sixth Edition announced*

NOOoooooooooo

First off, there is no need at all for Wired Reflexes to have a wireless input. To make it with a wireless input is stupid. Look at what happens to old skool pacemakers around microwave ovens, for crying out loud. Now extend this to a system designed for...y'know COMBAT in a word where magi shoot LIGHTNING BOLTS and having any part of your nervous system directly wired to a system that Except Random External Electromagnetic Signal = Yes is a very, very bad thing to have.

Same goes for smartguns. There is pretty much zero need for a smartgun to accept external wireless signals except at a very specific frequency range (don't forget FCC regs for bandwidth use in manufactured goods). This is a device made for COMBAT in a game world where everyone and their Mom has access to scriptkits to start the HAXORZ on your shit. Be a complete bitch if <insert random jamming device here> fired up and suddenly your whole tacnet crashed, right? Well, think about how long a smartgun system manufacturer is going to stay in business in a 100% connected world when street sammies are posting on their blogs that their electromechanical deathdealer took a shit and blew the 'run when some Scriptkiddie hit it with the Rape Stick with a stock cyberdeck.

I believe that that has been the stance on Wireless bonuses, since SR5's Inception, from the general populace. The bonuses are just stupid and not been thought out.
ESPECIALLY for anything within the body. *shrug*

Thank you, we are aware. Apparently, in the wondrous world of 2075, wired and skinlink signal transmission just don't work any more, and neither do p2p connections.
We've discussed this a hundred times already, there's no way to fix it, so why not just move on?

assuming by "no way to fix it" you actually mean "no way to change what the rulebooks say", then that might be true.

but i'm pretty sure that many people have "fixed" (read: removed) it just fine.