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i like PLAYING the Troll . .
and i frigging hate elves with a passion <.< . .

Because she disappeared in the second crash and the following coup d'etat gone wrong - and it shook the UCAS pretty bad then when both it's presidents ceased to exist.

What would shake the world would be her reappearance - not her being declared dead.

You realize that there is no way to prove that either of us is right, don't you?

My point is that you are missing the point that the public doesn't care anymore - it was big news back then, now everyone moved on.

Yeah, but my point is that she was the most powerfull woman in the world, she had enough wealth to be considered an AA corp in hers own right, was chairwoman of an association which had enough clout to gain extraterritoriality, was a member of the director board of the Ares Macrotech, had been the voice of the Big D (which made her one of the most famous women in the world), was considered one of the most charismatic persons ever existed and she happened to be the UCAS's VP. While she was only the VP she was much more important than the president, because while formaly subordinate to him she was actualy equal in power (they both carried over the dragon's legacy, and she happened to be the one who knew the dragon's score better); it's not a question on why people don't talk about it now (2072) it's a question about why there isn't any note about hers death, when the president was murdered it was stated into the history books, yet it was said nothing of Nadja; also general populance has a memory spam of ten minutes but the shadows can't afford to forget (or overlook) many thing, and Nadja's death would have been a very big rock in the pond, yet runners said nothing of her. Big news stop being news just to become History.

I'm going to have to side with AllTheNothing. People care because a) it's a mystery, b) it involves all sorts of crazy conspiracy nonsense (not even going into conspiracy theories themselves, and c) it is about the most powerful person in the world--second most powerful being behind Lofwyr--falling off the face of the planet. Nadja was Angelina Jolie with power; power to raise or cripple corps and countries being simply the most overt. This was a woman people emulated physically thanks to the miracles of modern science and who they had sex with through proxy in every conceivable form available in the SR universe.

Thinking that people move on is like saying that no one cares and thinks about the JFK assassination, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe or God knows who else. She was all of that combined into one person. Her disappearance after a failed assassination attempt in Seattle (based on the semi-conflicting timelines in System Failure) would bring out all of the crazies to say the least, let alone the tens of millions of starfuckers out there who cried when they learned Princess Di died in a car crash and followed the Anna Nicole Smith death like it was a national tragedy. It makes great media because people get to espouse every crazy idea they have without anyone to contradict them, and I don't think you are really grasping how much of a celebrity-obsessed culture this is now, let alone in the future where a Facebook pastiche rating is more important than your SIN and the media is ubiquitous and hungry to fill their 24/7 schedules with any information no matter how nonsensical because in the end people watch the news for nonsense and live their own pathetic lives by co-opting other peoples' misery, fame and glamour. This case brings it all together into one neat little package that even without consideration of the actual consequences this is something that would be news because the media says it is. I don't give a fuck about Dannilyn Smith but a) I still know her name, her father's name, and have seen photos of her on TV less than 24 hours ago because she's been without her mommy for almost two years now (which is another thing I know without ever wanting to).

To put it another way, how many people argued ad nauseum about the cause of the Crash of '29 for years until it was explained in the novels, and then still argued about it? And that's us, and that's a game plot point.

As for the will, why wouldn't she? Well, because who knows what she did or didn't want to do or think of doing. People are weird, and even this woman who put on a good show up until Dunk died was up to her eyes in shit she couldn't begin to fully comprehend or deal with after he died--something which I doubt passed with any haste. But consider this: If the UCAS government took her estate, then they control a voting block and seat(s) on the board of directors of their biggest (defense) contractor. It's not far to say that there was a lot of strange things that came to pass after she was gone that we know of, let alone the things that she did as part of Dunk's "seven-year plan" (which ended in 2064, coincidentally enough) or on her own. He had an agenda, and so did she. It would be foolish and poor style to let what could be a bagful of potential to sit on the sidelines and be cast off into oblivion.

CIA agent on the Grassy Knoll


Is still alive


Really did accidentally overdose.


Communists killed her; it's a long story.


Reptoid-hybrid, probably.


Created beer first; was incredibly drunk while making the rest of the universe. Is currently incarnated as an Puertro Rican man.

And, yeah, there is going to be a great deal of controversy around Davier's disappearance. My current hyopthesis is that she delivered a coded message from Dunklezhan to Ghostwalker after escaping the White House. Ghostwalker read the message and informed her "It says that I should eat you". Her remains have not yet been found because GW keeps his poop heavily guarded to deter theft by treasure hunters and talismongers.

Ironically, it reminds me of how the whole build-up with Dunkelzahn death and the Scott Commission ended with a one-liner in some sourcebook, VP Nadja Daviar saying something along the lines of "we'll never know and we should let my boss rest in peace." I guess sometimes none of the authors wants to take responsibility for ending another's plot before, too much time has passed.

I'd be really disappointed if the upcoming "Corporate Guide" doesn't address this, considering that Daviar personally owned a good fifth of Ares capital.

Haha! I like.

Although the Dragonheart Trilogy went into quite some detail into the reasons for Dunkie's suicide and the aftermath...

I haven't read the Dragonheart Trilogy so I don't know all the details but from what I understand, Dunkelzahn's death was a set-up. He moved on from the "mortal realm" to engage in spiritual warfare. So was the point of him even running for President simply to get Haeffner and company into the White House?

Yeah, one of the adventures in either Super Tuesday or Shadows of the Underworld is basically rehearsing how to kill Dunkie! Although it's pitched as planting a listening device and nothing to do with the presidency.

The point of the Presidency was probably to give his will extra legitimacy for stuff like the bounties...

I thought what happened was that Dunk wanted the Presidency, but something popped up on his radar and he triggered Project: Assassination in response - P: Assassination being a contingency plan he'd thunk up at some point to put a halter on the coming of Horrors.

Also, maybe this is just me being a Dunkie fanboy, but I thought he genuinely wanted the Presidency. It would have advanced a lot of his plans and also lended some credence towards his project of social and racial equality in the Sixth World.

We, players, know that (well... most of us). But SR book never adressed the fact that 99.99% of the Sixth World people were just told : move on. Just try to imagine Cheney or Biden saying "We'll never know who was behind the 9/11 attack. The Iraqi, maybe the Colombian cartels, who knows ? Let's let the dead rest in peace." That's basically what Daviar did (and she won the following election !).

I admit there is one difference : Dunkelzahn wasn't really the "UCAS beloved dragon". He won only by a narrow margin, with Kenneth Brackhaven right behind. On the other hand Haeffner got easily reelected two times.

Canon seems to agreed with you, weren't for the Azzies activating that fragging locus, whatever might it be (hey, it was said that it's a device that generates mana/powers spells .... I don't remember, but did they tell anywere what the frag it is or how does it work?), and attempting to create another spike the Big D would have made ALOT of good things for alot of people (mainly the ones that usualy get the short end of most of deals).
Said that, I must admit that I too had liked the dragon (and I've found deliscously taunting that wyvern in Chicago).

it's a frigging big huge chunk of obsidian through which several veins of orichalcum seem to be woven that lies on a converging point of 2 or more ley-lines . .
basically, it acts like a rechargeable battery would act if you could the years power output of a nuclear powerplant in one . . only it does that with Mana . .
it is a leftover from the previous age of magic(Earthdawn) . . and no, it's not the only one of it's kind . . i think there's at least one dozend of those around the
world . .

A capacitor? You know I had thought about capacitors and wondered what would happen if the conductors were made of orichalcum and elettrical energy was fed to it, normal capacitors would store the energy into an elettromagnetic field within the dielettric layer until the capacitor is filled, would coductors made of orichalcum also store the energy into a mana field? If so could the process reversed and lead to use some orichalcum device to produce electricity from mana (think about the power output that one of this things placed into a manawarp could have).

there's mana-storms, just construct good enough lightning rods and hold them in there? O.o
i . . don't think mana/tech works the way you think it does in shadowrun . . but i like your way of thinking *g*

Does any reference exist, telling us where those are?

No. Vivane had one, as stated in Prelude to War or Barsaive at War, but other then that no hard facts had been given.

i'll guess more or less scattered around the world . .
one or two of the bigger dragons probably have one or at least have a good guess about their whereabouts . .
maybe the floating island held one or two to keep afloat?

It's assumed that any major theran city has at least one and maybe the behemoths one onboard. But as typical for FASA-ED, it has never been stated exactly. And I doubt that the dragons use the loci at all.

I would conclude from the Aztlan SB that the loci managed to destroy Thera by storing too much of what was left of the ambient mana.

Realy? If so than how it's explained the whole "Never Trust an Elf" fiasco?