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JesterX
post Oct 13 2005, 08:24 PM
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Am I the only one who got problems with the book?

Here is what I got:

First of all, page 158-159 are connected together up to half of the page side.

Also, the Shadowrun logo behind some page numbers (only a few pages) seems to have severe color bleeding. On page 263, 270 and 271, the green ink seems way off the logo (about 4 millimetres in the worst case)

Some of the logos are much darker than others... but that doesn't bother me much.

Anyone else is getting that kind of troubles?

The book was purchased in Montreal, Quebec.
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post Oct 13 2005, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (JesterX)
The book was purchased in Montreal, Quebec.

Well, that's the problem right there! :P ;)

Seriously though, I have nothing to add.
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post Oct 13 2005, 08:40 PM
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That happens with books of all shapes and colors. I've had text books, cook books, magazines, comics, etc. all with similair printing issues. Hell i have a copy of a Wheel of Time book where 200 pages are reprinted in the book.
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post Oct 13 2005, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (JesterX)
The book was purchased in Montreal, Quebec.

Did you get it at Le Valet d'Coeur? If so I'll assume their stock is "tainted" and not get it there...
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post Oct 13 2005, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
QUOTE (JesterX @ Oct 14 2005, 06:24 AM)
The book was purchased in Montreal, Quebec.

Well, that's the problem right there! :P ;)

Seriously though, I have nothing to add.

What for? The book was published by Ares? :grinbig:
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post Oct 13 2005, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (Backgammon)
QUOTE (JesterX @ Oct 13 2005, 04:24 PM)
The book was purchased in Montreal, Quebec.

Did you get it at Le Valet d'Coeur? If so I'll assume their stock is "tainted" and not get it there...

Nope, I reserved it at Le Valet... But I called them this morning to ask them if they got them yet and the guy on the phone told me : "No, and we won't get it soon because FanPro are delaying it again." then I said: "But I called on other stores this morning and they told me they received them" and the guy replied: "Good for them, If you're not happy, go buy from them".

That's why I purchased it from Le Donjon on Maisonneuve street. I paid 38.99$ (Canadian) + tax for it and I also found a used but near mint condition "New Seattle" for only 8$!!!! ^_^
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:07 PM
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My book doesn't have any major misprints or anything I would complain over, but I do have the misaligned logo on the same exact pages, plus 223 and 247.

However nothing that would make me return my book or really complain. (5 extreamely minor coloring issues out of 352 pages.)
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:12 PM
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The thing that bother me the most is how to separate those two pages without ruining my book. Anyone got an idea?
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (JesterX @ Oct 13 2005, 03:12 PM)
The thing that bother me the most is how to separate those two pages without ruining my book.  Anyone got an idea?

From you description, and i think it is what i've occationally seen before, it sounds like a job for a very sharp Exacto knife or a hobbish razor knife.

Is there a nice sharp fold where the one page should end and the other should begin? If so then use the knife like a letter openner. At their sharpest and used carefully it should take a lot less pressure for it to cut the paper at the fold than would to rip the paper. The blade edge should be about 45 degrees to the edges of the pages, but someone with more literal cut-paste editing experience could give you a better idea there.
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:32 PM
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Exacto Knife. Run it alone the page edge lightly, with the blade flat against the paper. It'll slit the pages apart like a hot knife through a dandelion eaters belly. Only you won't have the messy part wher the elf's guts spill out onto your brand new combat boots.
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:33 PM
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Scooped! Daaaaaaaaamn yoooooou!
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (Gothic Rose @ Oct 13 2005, 03:33 PM)
Scooped!  Daaaaaaaaamn yoooooou!

FWIW you gave a better description of how to do it.....and it involved the evisceration of an of elf. That is a HUGE number of bonus points. ;)
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post Oct 14 2005, 04:01 AM
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QUOTE (Nikoli)
That happens with books of all shapes and colors. I've had text books, cook books, magazines, comics, etc. all with similair printing issues. Hell i have a copy of a Wheel of Time book where 200 pages are reprinted in the book.

I've had that exact same problem with what I'd assume is the exact same book.
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post Oct 14 2005, 05:16 AM
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Why am I not suprised by the existence of this topic?
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post Oct 14 2005, 03:15 PM
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Why am I not suprised by the existence of this topic?

I sure am not. It was as inevitable as grannies at a 70's Church social gathering around a record player or reel-to-reel tape machine to listen to rock albums backwards trying to pick out satanic messages. :wobble:
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post Oct 14 2005, 04:22 PM
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I want to thank you all for your nice suggestions about the exacto thing... Guess what? It worked nicely. I had just a little tearing doing this (2mm wide at the attach point) which is not so bad imho.

However, I guess i'm out of luck those days... I went to my brother's house to show him the book... and as soon as I got off the car with various bags and my son in the other arm, the bag containing my book falled on the ground causing some damage on the corner... :(

I guess that it needed to be "baptized" ...

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post Oct 14 2005, 05:54 PM
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Aww... don't worry. Damage to the covers/Spines of a book just show that they've been loved.
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post Oct 15 2005, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE (JesterX)
page 158-159 are connected together up to half of the page side.

Same problem here. Those two pages to be exact. I just went ahead and spliced them with a hunting knife. It was a fairly clean cut. The edges are a tad jagged, but it still looks good. I'm sure use of the book will make it look even worse anyway.
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post Oct 15 2005, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE (JesterX)
I guess that it needed to be "baptized" ...

I think "exorcised" would be more appropriate.
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post Oct 18 2005, 11:41 AM
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Mine arrived this morning.

It has a page that wasn't cut properly. However, rather than simply trimming the page someone has folded it over, and shoved it inside the book causing the page to be ripped and creased. :(

There is a nice smudge of green ink along the crease....
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post Oct 19 2005, 12:08 AM
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Mine arrived yesterday. Limited Edition, all nicely black and minimal and no cheezy cover art.

Except that the tables in Street Gear have stray numbers all over the place and layout errors. :( Availability... 63?
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post Oct 19 2005, 12:12 AM
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May I ask how much you purchased the Limited Edition for?
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post Oct 19 2005, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (Jezerel)
Mine arrived this morning.

It has a page that wasn't cut properly. However, rather than simply trimming the page someone has folded it over, and shoved it inside the book causing the page to be ripped and creased. :(

There is a nice smudge of green ink along the crease....

I've found paperbacks with folded pages like that before (usually just a corner, but once it was like four pages folded in half). Usually the page is trimmed, but folded over so it evidently was accidentally folded before the trimming process.

Heh, in the first rigger2 book I bought half the pages were blank on one side. :) Somehow I failed to notice while looking through it in the store! Luckily it wasn't a new release, they had another copy and I noticed before I left the neighborhood so it was just a couple minutes to replace it.
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post Oct 19 2005, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE (Beowurk)
Except that the tables in Street Gear have stray numbers all over the place and layout errors. :( Availability... 63?

Are these any different than what's been identified as the errata to the first printing, either in the official errata or in the thread where Dumpshockers can flag potential errata for FanPro to review?
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post Oct 20 2005, 03:34 PM
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Haven't read it cover to cover yet, but the only problem I have seen are two pages (can't remember the numbers) that were poorly cut. The bottom 1/5 or so were still attached to each other. Nothing a sharp hobby knife, or as in my case the scissors on a leatherman knife (not really recommended, but my miniature scalpel was impossible to find) wouldn't fix.

The paper seemed to be rather thin though, and easily "wobbled". The entire book looks like it has been kept in slightly moist conditions at some point.

Was bought in Scotland by the by.
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