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> An alternative to soysages, Grow your own meat!
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post Mar 28 2006, 03:32 PM
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Who needs soy when you can grow your own meat?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...t+starter+cells
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post Mar 28 2006, 03:49 PM
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Yum, Smeat.
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post Mar 28 2006, 04:04 PM
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So, if you grow human meat in a vat and eat it...is it cannabalism (sp)?

And would it sustain ghouls?
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post Mar 28 2006, 04:16 PM
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I registered today to post that very link. I got scooped! You technomancers really do have an edge in the Matrix. ;)

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post Mar 28 2006, 04:25 PM
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We really need to get that newsfeed that adam was looking at going.
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=12048


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post Mar 28 2006, 05:21 PM
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I'd be worried about toxins accumulating due to cell death. The live animal is much more capable of keeping all the cells alive properly.

Still, it's a neat leap forward. We can't seem to get people to eat plankton (despite it being thought of as nutritious), but maybe meat will work?
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post Mar 28 2006, 05:31 PM
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Its certinly an interesting idea. But something on the 3rd page just kinda threw me off a little...

In 2003, scientists in the United States announced that they had successfully grown a rabbit penis in the lab.
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post Mar 28 2006, 08:29 PM
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Grow your own meat? Is that not called a..."cow?"
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post Mar 28 2006, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (Lindt)
Its certinly an interesting idea. But something on the 3rd page just kinda threw me off a little...

In 2003, scientists in the United States announced that they had successfully grown a rabbit penis in the lab.

Well, scientist do have some perverse sense of priority on what to grow first, though I think they gotta get out of the lab more often... :|
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post Mar 29 2006, 03:46 PM
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There worried about sausages and chicken nuggets that taste like meet?

Those donít taste like meat today.

The problem I would have with the counter top version is maintaining a viable culture. Infection would be a big issue, I donít thin anybody cleans there dishes well enough that leaving growth medium out at optimal temperature would not trigger a massive bacterial infection.

Also I think getting sausages to grow overnight is being overly optimistic on speed, muscle doesnít grow that fast.

If they solve these problems there will be a market, you wont get total acceptance but there are people that would buy one tomorrow (sorry not m, Iím broke)

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post Mar 29 2006, 04:01 PM
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Sausage-trees, finally! :D
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post Mar 29 2006, 04:03 PM
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Edward, about the countertop version,

I imagine that a responsible company would make it a self-sealing, self-cleaning unit.

On the other hand, a corp like AZT would just market it as "BacteriYUM", and let it kill people. :)

But yeah, industrial grown meat... Be a lot better than barnyard meat, eh?
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post Mar 29 2006, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (PBTHHHHT @ Mar 28 2006, 03:37 PM)
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Its certinly an interesting idea.  But something on the 3rd page just kinda threw me off a little...

In 2003, scientists in the United States announced that they had successfully grown a rabbit penis in the lab.

Well, scientist do have some perverse sense of priority on what to grow first, though I think they gotta get out of the lab more often... :|

Its a first step toward growing human penises in a lab, which is good. As far as transplants go I would be happy to accept a second-hand heart or someone else's arm should I need one.
I would not be happy with a used penis. That's something you want to get new and unopened in the original factory packaging.

There is more potential here than just food.
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post Mar 29 2006, 04:11 PM
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Ahhhhhhh, gotta love the old "Play upon the human psyche's mores and mires for profit" approach to technological advancement.


That said, I happen to agree with you. >_<
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post Mar 29 2006, 06:27 PM
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Hmm... I dream of the day when every man has replaced his meat with something a foot and a half long, and I find I am the only one still able to copulate with other humans.
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post Mar 29 2006, 09:11 PM
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Nezumi, they'll just replace every woman's digestive tract with a shorter and more efficient version, and expand her reproductive areas. :P
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post Mar 29 2006, 09:33 PM
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Obviously, nezumi and Shadowdragon aren't watching the right internet porn or they would know that such extreme measures aren't required for a piddly foot and a half.
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post Mar 29 2006, 09:37 PM
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Wah-hah-hah-hah-haah. :)


No, I've seen it. But that requires a lot of conditioning on her part to do that without splitting.
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post Mar 29 2006, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi)
Hmm... I dream of the day when every man has replaced his meat with something a foot and a half long, and I find I am the only one still able to copulate with other humans.

Um, aren't you just going to get two of them? That seems to be the better option, doesn't it?

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post Mar 29 2006, 10:22 PM
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Wah-hah-hah-hah-haah. :)


No, I've seen it. But that requires a lot of conditioning on her part to do that without splitting.

Well, soft tissue has unlimited stretching capacity. That's why phimosis can be cured by stretching, and why people who wear heavy earrings all the time get long earlobes.

So, I'm pretty sure that with stretching any custom appendage could be accomidated.
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post Mar 30 2006, 01:14 AM
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I'm pretty sure the stretch limit of soft tissue is equal to it's tensile strength, IE the point at which it is easier to tear apart than to stretch.

That's when ouchies happen.
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post Mar 30 2006, 01:50 AM
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The thing about most human soft tissue is that the body makes more of it as it stretches. This is why very obese people have drastic fat reducing treatments such as liposuction end up gigantic folds of excess skin which have to be removes surgically.

Of course, the pelvis is a limiting factor in this case.
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post Mar 30 2006, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (hyzmarca)


Of course, the pelvis is a limiting factor in this case.

If I had a nickle for every time I heard this...
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post Mar 30 2006, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (Shanshu Freeman)
QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Mar 30 2006, 01:50 AM)


Of course, the pelvis is a limiting factor in this case.

If I had a nickle for every time I heard this...

I am curious to the other circumstances.

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post Mar 30 2006, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Mar 29 2006, 05:22 PM)
QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Mar 29 2006, 04:37 PM)
Wah-hah-hah-hah-haah. :)


No, I've seen it. But that requires a lot of conditioning on her part to do that without splitting.

Well, soft tissue has unlimited stretching capacity. That's why phimosis can be cured by stretching, and why people who wear heavy earrings all the time get long earlobes.

So, I'm pretty sure that with stretching any custom appendage could be accomidated.

I suspect inserting a foot and a half of meat from between the pelvis and into the abdominal cavity WITH stretching would be dangerous and would take lots of time to prepare for. Inserting said meat without years of stretching would likely result in... dissatisfaction for one party or the other (or both). I also suspect most women are not especially interested in getting a foot and a half long vagina installed (or stretching their existing one out to that length) in order to allow us to indulge our male egos.

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