MilSpecTech, What do you guys think? Options

[Stahlseele]

Where's the pseudo-anglicism in that?
that's a perfect german translation for air tank.

[CanRay]

*Blinks* Really? Wow.

I just took Luftwaffe and Panzer and crushed 'em together in the hopes of getting something right.

'Course, I did look up what Luftwaffe translated as properly first. And also found the full name for a "Panzer". I think I posted the full name earlier in the thread.

[Stahlseele]

German IS easy sometimes ^^

[CanRay]

Yeah, languages make my "Your head assplode".

[Stahlseele]

*nods*
i've ben told i should have taken several languages in school . . i seem to have a knack for language stuff . .
too bad i'm this damn lazy, or i could be cursing fluently in 6 languages by now <.<

[Fatum]

On a personal note: what do you guys think of the NEW designs in MilSpec, esp.
– Mixcoatl
– Paynal
– Centurion
– Woodstock
– Arbalest
– Popocatepeti
– Ahuitzotl and
– Huitzilopochti?

Okay, you're a great artist, so I'll be as nitpicky as I can not to turn it into "everything is cool forever".
Mixcoatl lacks a representation of Sun Cell upgrade - after all, Sun Cell is not just a couple of panels, pretty much the whole drone's body should be covered by it. Also, the landing gear raises eyebrows.
Paynal looks very cool, but it's a vectored-thrust craft, and I somewhat doubt if those primary thrusters can rotate all the way back till facing the horizon without hitting the stabilizers.
Centurion makes you wonder if it can be balanced with the thrusters moved that far from the center of mass. Still, we don't see the nozzles, so I guess could be ok. Also, could use some representation of that Smart Armor upgrade.
Woodstock we've discussed on your DA page.
Arbalest's tail fins look to be a bit asymmetric.
Popocatepetl raises questions of where the landing gear is hidden, - its wings look pretty thin.
Ahuitzotl, again, looks like its center of mass is somewhere around the letter Y in the company's name, and it's about to tip forward some 40 degrees to accommodate for that.
Huitzilopochti... hmmm, I don't even know about what to nitpick. Hm. Maybe the turret shape? Half-domes went out of fashion a good deal of time ago; and there could be a bit more sensors on an automatic combat platform.

[Wesley Street]

On a personal note: what do you guys think of the NEW designs in MilSpec, esp.

Sorry to answer a question with a question but did you use Corel Painter on this project? Just curious...

[raben-aas]

I use classic pen sketches and photoshop (yes, you can paint with photoshop, too) gg

Thanks for the feedback on the new designs - i will take a detailed look into this and give a likewise detailed answer when i am down to somewhere below 39 degrees celsius fever (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Man, getting sick right in the middle of moving to a new appartment sucks big time...

AAS

[Stahlseele]

i feel your pain . . literally . . got my fever clocked in at 39,1°celsius too right now <.<

[Fatum]

Hey, I'm in the middle of pneumonia right now, do you see me complaining? :ь
We should start an Ill Club or something. Healthies not welcome.

[CanRay]

I've been sick enough that I haven't worked in three years.

[Fatum]

What... or who?... do you eat, then? O_o

[CanRay]

I'm on the Dole. Disability. Keeps me in cheap food, rent, and Internet.

[Fatum]

And with all that free time you still haven't been able to find a SR game?
I have an IRC server in dire need of SR GMs for you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[CanRay]

Can't GM any more. Burnout from running for my group.

I want to PLAY.

[Fatum]

Don't look at me like that, I don't GM in English :ь
My meat is also rather fat, and sour too!

[Mäx]

Momentarily back to topic.
I somehow wonder why Phalanx stats from MilSpecTech (where it's said to be obsolescent) are that much better than the autocannon stats from Arsenal..

Whut.
Phalanx has 1 point higher damage then heavy autocannon (still does less damage as the autocannon uses minigun rules and as such fires 15 rounds full-auto) and 2 less AP.
I would say heavy autocannon is better then phalanx in pretty much every way, especially considering you can get 2 of them for the same price as one phalanx.

Yes it's better then light autocannon, but thats to be expected from a weapon that cost 8 times as much.

[Fatum]

Whut.
Phalanx has 1 point higher damage then heavy autocannon (still does less damage as the autocannon uses minigun rules and as such fires 15 rounds full-auto) and 2 less AP.
I would say heavy autocannon is better then phalanx in pretty much every way, especially considering you can get 2 of them for the same price as one phalanx.

Yes it's better then light autocannon, but thats to be expected from a weapon that cost 8 times as much.

You see, in that thread on simulating CIWS, we agreed that autocannons from Arsenal are basically meant to represent those.
As for minigun rules, frankly, it just seems that the writers forgot to mention that - Phalanx sure has a rate of fire high enough to warrant the quality. If so, its higher base damage compared to newer weapon systems doesn't make much sense. If not, that ruling doesn't make much sense.
This way or another, the stat block is badly thought through - not as badly as expected after War!, but still...

[Mäx]

resent those.
As for minigun rules, frankly, it just seems that the writers forgot to mention that - Phalanx sure has a rate of fire high enough to warrant the quality. If so, its higher base damage compared to newer weapon systems doesn't make much sense.

This is kind of complaint i really can't understand.
This is pretty much like saying "An old battlerifle shooting 7,62mm NATO shouldn't do more damage then a state of the art assault rifle shooting 5,56mm NATO, it just doesn't make any sense" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Just think of the phalanx as a super heavy autocannon, then it doing more damage then a heavy autocannon makes perfect sense.
Seriously phalanx cost 2 times as much a heavy autocannon, it should do more damage or there's no reason for anyone to ever buy one.

[Fatum]

This is kind of complaint i really can't understand.
This is pretty much like saying "An old battlerifle shooting 7,62mm NATO shouldn't do more damage then a state of the art assault rifle shooting 5,56mm NATO, it just doesn't make any sense" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Just think of the phalanx as a super heavy autocannon, then it doing more damage then a heavy autocannon makes perfect sense.
Seriously phalanx cost 2 times as much a heavy autocannon, it should do more damage or there's no reason for anyone to ever buy one.

A SOTA assault rifle shooting 5.56 is supposed to have other qualities making it better, like effective range or reliability, or, I dunno, recoil compensation.
What do Arsenal autocannons have that Phalanx doesn't? Minigun rules? It makes no sense for Phalanx not to have them.

[CanRay]

A SOTA assault rifle shooting 5.56 is supposed to have other qualities making it better, like effective range or reliability, or, I dunno, recoil compensation.

The AK would like a word with you about reliability. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Fatum]

The AK would like a word with you about reliability. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Note the "supposed" up there.

[Mäx]

What do Arsenal autocannons have that Phalanx doesn't?

Half the price.

[Fatum]

So, 70 years of weapon development result in guns that are worse in pretty much every meaningful characteristic but price?
Cool.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

So, 70 years of weapon development result in guns that are worse in pretty much every meaningful characteristic but price?
Cool.

The same could be said nowadays about cars... Most of them are POS's compared to years ago.